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p.7 #1 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


Uh, I'm pretty sure you only get the 5.5 stops in concert with an IS lens. This is the same for Canon's 8 stops claim on the r5

chiron wrote:
Yes, that seems right, though I really would like to know about noise and DR, especially in low light with high ISO. And I would be happy enough with 5.5 stops of IS if that is what it were. It may be that Sony, after pushing in-body stabilization against Canon's lens based stabilization, will eventually have to combine the two more effectively to compete on this criterion, because of their smaller lens mount.




Feb 04, 2021 at 09:58 PM
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p.7 #2 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


buffalowolff wrote:
Uh, I'm pretty sure you only get the 5.5 stops in concert with an IS lens. This is the same for Canon's 8 stops claim on the r5



I'm pretty sure Sony was claiming 5.5 stops of in-body stabilization for the A1, good with any lens.



Feb 04, 2021 at 09:59 PM
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p.7 #3 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


You are correct. Just checked, they claim 5.5 stops with the planer t* 50 1.4 which is not stabilized.

chiron wrote:
Yes, that seems right, though I really would like to know about noise and DR, especially in low light with high ISO. And I would be happy enough with 5.5 stops of IS if that is what it really were. It may be that Sony, after pushing in-body stabilization against Canon's lens based stabilization, will eventually have to combine the two more effectively to compete on this criterion, because of their smaller lens mount.




Feb 04, 2021 at 10:04 PM
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p.7 #4 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


Chimping wrote:
Fair enough. It very well might be the large snow flakes. Otherwise, my R5 can definitely do better than what was exhibited in that video. I have shot in snow, but not thick thick snow like in the video. I also typically shoot with my RF 85 at 1.2 for fast puppy action, and my keeper rate has been extraordinary. I’ve got shots of my dog coming at me head on - practically flying through the air - and the camera was able to maintain consistent and accurate focus.

Here are two quick examples that I have handy (posted small
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Would you mind sharing the aperture and shutter speed of the first photo? I think it is fantastic.



Feb 04, 2021 at 10:09 PM
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p.7 #5 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


shadow9d9 wrote:
Would you mind sharing the aperture and shutter speed of the first photo? I think it is fantastic.


That's very kind - thank you! The shutter speed was 1/2500 and the aperture was f/1.2.




Feb 04, 2021 at 10:26 PM
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p.7 #6 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


I watched the Fro video today. And saw him mention the 70-200 GM didn’t perform that well on the Alpha 1.

I don’t know if this has anything to do with it, but on the Sony Japan website where it lists the lenses that are capable of shooting 30fps. It says in the fine print that the 70-200 will require a software update to be fully compatible.



https://i.imgur.com/c1hQAgh.jpg



Feb 04, 2021 at 11:48 PM
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robert614 wrote:
I watched the Fro video today. And saw him mention the 70-200 GM didn’t perform that well on the Alpha 1.

I don’t know if this has anything to do with it, but on the Sony Japan website where it lists the lenses that are capable of shooting 30fps. It says in the fine print that the 70-200 will require a software update to be fully compatible.


Thanks for posting the information about the 70-200.
The last firmware update on the Sony support site for that lens was 12/5/2017 (version 05).
I wonder if there is another update that will appear soon or if they are referring to that update.
Need to update mine. It's version 02. That's embarrassing.

Dave



Feb 05, 2021 at 12:46 AM
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p.7 #8 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


Start up time from power off to on looks way, way faster...check it out at the time stamp 2:49

&t=608s



Feb 05, 2021 at 05:49 AM
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p.7 #9 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


arbitrage wrote:
Start up time from power off to on looks way, way faster...check it out at the time stamp 2:49

&t=608s


Looks great. We have come a long way since Mr Turtle, aka the A7rII



Feb 05, 2021 at 06:06 AM
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p.7 #10 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


One thing that caught my attention is that the three wheels now show up in the custom key menus....fingers crossed this means I can permanently switch Aperture down to the Control wheel, Shutter on the front dial and ISO on the rear dial. To do this on the A9II/A7RIV I have to use My Dial. But My Dial requires you to setup (and waste) a Custom Key just to toggle into it every time you start the camera...not a huge deal but was still annoying to me. I have fingers crossed that the wheels showing up in the Custom Key section will allow me to have this set permanently...if so, just one more thing Sony ticked off my Wishlist with this camera.

I'm really hoping someone puts together a full menu walkthrough for the A1. I did find this in depth walkthrough for the A7SIII to get myself a little bit familiarized with the new organization...maybe worth a watch as we kill time for 4 more weeks




Feb 05, 2021 at 07:42 AM
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p.7 #11 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


arbitrage wrote:
One thing that caught my attention is that the three wheels now show up in the custom key menus....fingers crossed this means I can permanently switch Aperture down to the Control wheel, Shutter on the front dial and ISO on the rear dial. To do this on the A9II/A7RIV I have to use My Dial. But My Dial requires you to setup (and waste) a Custom Key just to toggle into it every time you start the camera...not a huge deal but was still annoying to me. I have fingers crossed that the wheels showing up in the Custom Key
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Good idea. I have no experience with the new menu system either. Getting acquainted with it sounds like a good way to make the wait go a little faster.

Thanks for the link.



Feb 05, 2021 at 09:34 AM
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p.7 #12 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


I tried the old trick of changing the model name in an A1 raw file to ILCE-9 to get Lightroom to import the file but it did not work. Not sure why, as I'm not seeing much difference in the file structure.


Feb 05, 2021 at 10:03 AM
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Hillrg` wrote:
I tried the old trick of changing the model name in an A1 raw file to ILCE-9 to get Lightroom to import the file but it did not work. Not sure why, as I'm not seeing much difference in the file structure.



I believe you can convert the files to DNG format and you can go from there.



Feb 05, 2021 at 10:07 AM
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p.7 #14 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


arbitrage wrote:
Start up time from power off to on looks way, way faster...check it out at the time stamp 2:49


You are right. But other videos shows it's way slower. So some settings might be affecting startup time?




Feb 05, 2021 at 10:11 AM
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p.7 #15 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


Hillrg` wrote:
I tried the old trick of changing the model name in an A1 raw file to ILCE-9 to get Lightroom to import the file but it did not work. Not sure why, as I'm not seeing much difference in the file structure.


I was able to open them in RawTherapee and boosted exposure on the high contrast scenes to see what the shadows looked like. It's hard to say without a direct point of comparison if there is any improvement vs. other models, however. For what it's worth, a 3 stop push seemed ok while anything needing 4 was getting noisy. I'm mainly hoping there is some improvement, even if slight, over the A7R3.



Feb 05, 2021 at 10:20 AM
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p.7 #16 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


ketang wrote:
I was able to open them in RawTherapee and boosted exposure on the high contrast scenes to see what the shadows looked like. It's hard to say without a direct point of comparison if there is any improvement vs. other models, however. For what it's worth, a 3 stop push seemed ok while anything needing 4 was getting noisy. I'm mainly hoping there is some improvement, even if slight, over the A7R3.


In Video Undone showed higher DR than with the A7siii at least, the best he tested so far.
Being a sacked sensor I guess DR at base iso to be better than the A9ii, but still slightly behind the A7riii, comparable at higher isos..



Feb 05, 2021 at 10:23 AM
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p.7 #17 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


Hillrg` wrote:
I tried the old trick of changing the model name in an A1 raw file to ILCE-9 to get Lightroom to import the file but it did not work. Not sure why, as I'm not seeing much difference in the file structure.


Can't you use Imaging Edge to import the files and then export them as 16 bit tiffs?



Feb 05, 2021 at 10:45 AM
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p.7 #18 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


buffalowolff wrote:
Hey @Alex Phan@ how are you liking it?


I'm not going to compete with to be the first to get the review out but will try my best to provide the most info for wildlife shooter on this new camera. I dont have enough time to get the shot in the real life to provide the most accurate data. I already request second rounds for the A1 so I can recorded the live evf af tracking to my atomos.

Will have it post when it is ready.

Btw, it fulfills ALL the wishlist that I have from A9ii



Feb 05, 2021 at 11:30 AM
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p.7 #19 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


dclark wrote:
Can't you use Imaging Edge to import the files and then export them as 16 bit tiffs?


It was just an observation. Lots of cumbersome workarounds for sure.




Feb 05, 2021 at 11:33 AM
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p.7 #20 · A1 Reviews/Video thread


All the videos I have seen are pretty shallow and uninformative. Gerald Undone did a decent job as far as he went with video. Still a lot needs to be tested in video however.

I am looking forward to a good exploration of AF performance from reviewers who are experienced with Sony, and experts in sports/action/wildlife/bird photography.

I would also like to see a detailed walk through of the menu system, and configuration options.

I would like to see detailed looks into read/write speeds, buffers, and card options.

I understand that before we are able to see good image quality reviews the RAW processors will need to be updated to properly read the files.

It just seems to me that this kind of quality testing is a bit slower than normal releases despite a pretty broad distribution of cameras given out for testing.

Maybe I am just being a bit impatient.



Feb 05, 2021 at 11:35 AM
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