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arbitrage wrote:
All I'm trying to do is clarify the terminology. Wide AF (non-tracking version) does continuous AF. And as I said, that could be considered tracking because it does track a subject across the frame. So I was agreeing with your argument.
understood that from the beginning, i'm pointing out that the toppixel troll claimed that sony couldn't track at 30fps, which was wrong: "Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
the a1 tracked at 30fps in wide area mode for mark galer.
so this isn't about what mark galer said per se, it's about the lies that toppixel keeps posting.
arbitrage wrote:
I think we need to drop the "Lock-on" terminology as that does not exist in the A9II, A7RIV, A7SIII, A7C, A9 (FW 5.0) nor A1. That is ancient A7III/RIII stuff. The Real-Time Tracking replaced that in the menus, created the new icon (square with vertical lines left and right), greatly improved the algorithms and is now what most of us refer to as Tracking. Because this is what Sony calls Tracking in the camera and in the user manuals/help guides.
that's a good point, the a7ii had "lock-on" back in 2015.
in the link i posted earlier, sony refers to both "lock-on" and "tracking" rather interchangeably, because that link attempts to cover all camera models:
"The Lock-on AF and Tracking features of your camera can keep a subject in focus as it moves across the frame" https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00081258
point is, there is absolutely no denying that the a1 wide area focus mode has 30fps tracking capability, contrary to what the toppixel troll claimed.
All I'm trying to do is clarify the terminology. Wide AF (non-tracking version) does continuous AF. And as I said, that could be considered tracking because it does track a subject across the frame. So I was agreeing with your argument.
understood that from the beginning, i'm pointing out that the toppixel troll claimed that sony couldn't track at 30fps, which was wrong: "Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
the a1 tracked at 30fps in wide area mode for mark galer.
so this isn't about what mark galer said per se, it's about the lies that toppixel keeps posting.
arbitrage wrote:
I think we need to drop the "Lock-on" terminology as that does not exist in the A9II, A7RIV, A7SIII, A7C, A9 (FW 5.0) nor A1. That is ancient A7III/RIII stuff. The Real-Time Tracking replaced that in the menus, created the new icon (square with vertical lines left and right), greatly improved the algorithms and is now what most of us refer to as Tracking. Because this is what Sony calls Tracking in the camera and in the user manuals/help guides.
that's a good point, the a7ii had "lock-on" back in 2015.
in the link i posted earlier, sony refers to both "lock-on" and "tracking" rather interchangeably, because that link attempts to cover all camera models:
"The Lock-on AF and Tracking features of your camera can keep a subject in focus as it moves across the frame" https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00081258
point is, there is absolutely no denying that the a1 wide area focus mode has 30fps tracking capability, contrary to what the toppixel troll claimed.
Mar 01, 2021 at 04:06 PM
p.43 #2A1 Reviews/Video thread
Do we actually care though? We are just arguing with TopPixel at this point. Maybe we can start another 'Pissing contest with TopPixel' thread and leave this one for commentary on Kai W's innuendo jokes.
Mar 01, 2021 at 04:12 PM
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p.43 #3A1 Reviews/Video thread
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arbitrage wrote
All I'm trying to do is clarify the terminology. Wide AF (non-tracking version) does continuous AF. And as I said, that could be considered tracking because it does track a subject across the frame. So I was agreeing with your argument.the a1 tracked at 30fps in wide area mode for mark galer.
so this isn't about what mark galer said per se, it's about the lies that toppixel keeps posting.
arbitrage wrote
I think we need to drop the "Lock-on" terminology as that does not exist in the A9II, A7RIV, A7SIII, A7C, A9 (FW 5.0) nor A1. That is ancient A7III/RIII stuff. The Real-Time Tracking replaced that in the menus, created the new icon (square with vertical lines left and right), greatly improved the algorithms and is now what most of us refer to as Tracking. Because this is what Sony calls Tracking in the camera and in the user manuals/help guides.in the link i posted earlier, sony refers to both "lock-on" and "tracking" rather interchangeably, because that link attempts to cover all camera models:
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Let me try to frame this in a way you can understand. Regular Flexible Spot vs Tracking Flexible Spot. The Alpha 1 will track at 26.6 fps with Tracking Flexible Spot. The Alpha 1 will not track with regular Flexible Spot but can do 30 fps. See the difference? Without the real time tracking, the AF modes are a lot less useful for sports or in difficult light.
Mar 01, 2021 at 04:14 PM
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p.43 #4A1 Reviews/Video thread
kai W would be a lot more fun 
it's not clear to me why fred keeps the toppixel/duncang fake accounts around, it just drives the fm forum rep into the ground, and pollutes the google search function with lies about sony, which is what they wanted.
it's not clear to me why fred keeps the toppixel/duncang fake accounts around, it just drives the fm forum rep into the ground, and pollutes the google search function with lies about sony, which is what they wanted.
Mar 01, 2021 at 04:21 PM
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p.43 #5A1 Reviews/Video thread
TopPixel wrote:
understood that from the beginning, i'm pointing out that the toppixel troll claimed that sony couldn't track at 30fps, which was wrong: "Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
the a1 tracked at 30fps in wide area mode for mark galer.
so this isn't about what mark galer said per se, it's about the lies that toppixel keeps posting.
that's a good point, the a7ii had "lock-on" back in 2015.
in the link i posted earlier, sony refers to both "lock-on" and "tracking" rather interchangeably, because that link attempts to cover all camera models:
"The Lock-on AF and Tracking features of your camera can keep a subject in focus as it moves across the frame" https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00081258
point is, there is absolutely no denying that the a1 wide area focus mode has 30fps tracking capability, contrary to what the toppixel troll claimed.Let me try to frame this in a way you can understand. Regular Flexible Spot vs Tracking Flexible Spot.
stop posting lies about what you said.
your exact words were: "Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
you said nothing about spot size there, and you lied about the a1 tracking capability.
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arbitrage wrote
All I'm trying to do is clarify the terminology. Wide AF (non-tracking version) does continuous AF. And as I said, that could be considered tracking because it does track a subject across the frame. So I was agreeing with your argument.the a1 tracked at 30fps in wide area mode for mark galer.
so this isn't about what mark galer said per se, it's about the lies that toppixel keeps posting.
arbitrage wrote
I think we need to drop the "Lock-on" terminology as that does not exist in the A9II, A7RIV, A7SIII, A7C, A9 (FW 5.0) nor A1. That is ancient A7III/RIII stuff. The Real-Time Tracking replaced that in the menus, created the new icon (square with vertical lines left and right), greatly improved the algorithms and is now what most of us refer to as Tracking. Because this is what Sony calls Tracking in the camera and in the user manuals/help guides.in the link i posted earlier, sony refers to both "lock-on" and "tracking" rather interchangeably, because that link attempts to cover all camera models:
"The Lock-on AF and Tracking features of your camera can keep a subject in focus as it moves across the frame" https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00081258
point is, there is absolutely no denying that the a1 wide area focus mode has 30fps tracking capability, contrary to what the toppixel troll claimed.
stop posting lies about what you said.
your exact words were: "Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
you said nothing about spot size there, and you lied about the a1 tracking capability.
Mar 01, 2021 at 04:23 PM
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p.43 #6A1 Reviews/Video thread
TopPixel wrote:
no offense, but you are confused about what's being discussed... the top pixel troll posted: "Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
he claimed that sony can't track at 30fps, that is wrong, as i detailed in the post above, from the sony manual.
wide area mode locks-on and tracks just as well as any other tracking mode, and mark galer got 30fps tracking with wide area mode.Listen carefully on Mark Galers video at 29:40 and I will quote Mark here "so here is the 30fps, this time 240 frames and um it's an 8 second burst and if you do the maths it's 30 fps, now what I have done is I have come out of tracking and just gone into AF-C Wide..."
https://youtu.be/vguyofpy16Y?t=1778Thank you for your service but I suspect @osv2@ is just trying to troll me. Surely he can't be that ignorant of what Mark Galer said?
I have to assume folks are just not paying attention and miss some of the detail in these videos and as a result are genuinely unaware of their ignorance - or perhaps just suffer from selective myopia.
Either way there may be other 3rd parties reading this who don't have the backstory - so it's always helpful to point out the specific facts and let them draw their own conclusions.
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osv2 wrote
arbitrage wrote
I think the confusion lies in what we are calling Tracking and what Sony is calling Tracking.he claimed that sony can't track at 30fps, that is wrong, as i detailed in the post above, from the sony manual.
wide area mode locks-on and tracks just as well as any other tracking mode, and mark galer got 30fps tracking with wide area mode.
https://youtu.be/vguyofpy16Y?t=1778
I have to assume folks are just not paying attention and miss some of the detail in these videos and as a result are genuinely unaware of their ignorance - or perhaps just suffer from selective myopia.
Either way there may be other 3rd parties reading this who don't have the backstory - so it's always helpful to point out the specific facts and let them draw their own conclusions.
Mar 01, 2021 at 04:38 PM
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p.43 #7A1 Reviews/Video thread
osv2 wrote:
no, your exact words that started this were:
"Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
you didn't even know that wide area mode had tracking capability, until i posted the sony manual link, lol
oh? where exactly did mark galer test wide area mode with tracking turned off, and got 26.6 fps? post the specific timecode that's in his video.
TopPixel - this is hilarious - what did I tell you.
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@Arbitrage@@@ and I keep telling you that there is a regular wide AF with no lock on tracking in addition to the lock on tracking wide AF."Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
you didn't even know that wide area mode had tracking capability, until i posted the sony manual link, lol
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It's not rocket science! One of them does 30 fps and the other does 26.6 fps.TopPixel - this is hilarious - what did I tell you.
Mar 01, 2021 at 04:47 PM
p.43 #8A1 Reviews/Video thread
buffalowolff wrote:
Do we actually care though? We are just arguing with TopPixel at this point.
That's the only reason he's here, trying to promote some loser anti-Sony agenda - and his obvious lack of facts (or any shred of credibility) doesn't seem to deter him. The only thing that surprises me is that Fred hasn't suspended or banned him again yet.
Do we actually care though? We are just arguing with TopPixel at this point.
That's the only reason he's here, trying to promote some loser anti-Sony agenda - and his obvious lack of facts (or any shred of credibility) doesn't seem to deter him. The only thing that surprises me is that Fred hasn't suspended or banned him again yet.
Mar 01, 2021 at 04:54 PM
p.43 #9A1 Reviews/Video thread
TopPixel wrote:
understood that from the beginning, i'm pointing out that the toppixel troll claimed that sony couldn't track at 30fps, which was wrong: "Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
the a1 tracked at 30fps in wide area mode for mark galer.
so this isn't about what mark galer said per se, it's about the lies that toppixel keeps posting.
that's a good point, the a7ii had "lock-on" back in 2015.
in the link i posted earlier, sony refers to both "lock-on" and "tracking" rather interchangeably, because that link attempts to cover all camera models:
"The Lock-on AF and Tracking features of your camera can keep a subject in focus as it moves across the frame" https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00081258
point is, there is absolutely no denying that the a1 wide area focus mode has 30fps tracking capability, contrary to what the toppixel troll claimed.Let me try to frame this in a way you can understand. Regular Flexible Spot vs Tracking Flexible Spot. The Alpha 1 will track at 26.6 fps with Tracking Flexible Spot. The Alpha 1 will not track with regular Flexible Spot but can do 30 fps. See the difference? Without the real time tracking, the AF modes are a lot less useful for sports or in difficult light.
You're wrong. You’re making a sweeping assumption based on how you might use the camera.
I’m beginning to see why you don’t want to associate your real name with the nonsense you post here. I wouldn’t either. Then again, I don’t post drivel.
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arbitrage wrote
All I'm trying to do is clarify the terminology. Wide AF (non-tracking version) does continuous AF. And as I said, that could be considered tracking because it does track a subject across the frame. So I was agreeing with your argument.the a1 tracked at 30fps in wide area mode for mark galer.
so this isn't about what mark galer said per se, it's about the lies that toppixel keeps posting.
arbitrage wrote
I think we need to drop the "Lock-on" terminology as that does not exist in the A9II, A7RIV, A7SIII, A7C, A9 (FW 5.0) nor A1. That is ancient A7III/RIII stuff. The Real-Time Tracking replaced that in the menus, created the new icon (square with vertical lines left and right), greatly improved the algorithms and is now what most of us refer to as Tracking. Because this is what Sony calls Tracking in the camera and in the user manuals/help guides.in the link i posted earlier, sony refers to both "lock-on" and "tracking" rather interchangeably, because that link attempts to cover all camera models:
"The Lock-on AF and Tracking features of your camera can keep a subject in focus as it moves across the frame" https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00081258
point is, there is absolutely no denying that the a1 wide area focus mode has 30fps tracking capability, contrary to what the toppixel troll claimed.
You're wrong. You’re making a sweeping assumption based on how you might use the camera.
I’m beginning to see why you don’t want to associate your real name with the nonsense you post here. I wouldn’t either. Then again, I don’t post drivel.
Mar 01, 2021 at 04:59 PM
p.43 #10A1 Reviews/Video thread
buffalowolff wrote:
Do we actually care though? We are just arguing with TopPixel at this point. Maybe we can start another 'Pissing contest with TopPixel' thread and leave this one for commentary on Kai W's innuendo jokes.
I put him in "hide me" the 3rd day after he signed up.
Do we actually care though? We are just arguing with TopPixel at this point. Maybe we can start another 'Pissing contest with TopPixel' thread and leave this one for commentary on Kai W's innuendo jokes.
I put him in "hide me" the 3rd day after he signed up.
Mar 01, 2021 at 05:06 PM
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p.43 #11A1 Reviews/Video thread
osv2 wrote:
kai W would be a lot more fun
it's not clear to me why fred keeps the toppixel/duncang fake accounts around, it just drives the fm forum rep into the ground, and pollutes the google search function with lies about sony, which is what they wanted.
BTW if you are having trouble understanding exactly what Mark Galer did then here is a graphic from the A1 manual showing the focus area options he was using.
http://duncangroenewald.com/files/Sony-Galer-26fps.jpg
kai W would be a lot more fun
it's not clear to me why fred keeps the toppixel/duncang fake accounts around, it just drives the fm forum rep into the ground, and pollutes the google search function with lies about sony, which is what they wanted.
BTW if you are having trouble understanding exactly what Mark Galer did then here is a graphic from the A1 manual showing the focus area options he was using.
http://duncangroenewald.com/files/Sony-Galer-26fps.jpg
Mar 01, 2021 at 05:08 PM
p.43 #12A1 Reviews/Video thread
duncang wrote:
TopPixel wrote
duncang wrote
osv2 wrote
arbitrage wrote
I think the confusion lies in what we are calling Tracking and what Sony is calling Tracking.he claimed that sony can't track at 30fps, that is wrong, as i detailed in the post above, from the sony manual.
wide area mode locks-on and tracks just as well as any other tracking mode, and mark galer got 30fps tracking with wide area mode.
https://youtu.be/vguyofpy16Y?t=1778
Either way there may be other 3rd parties reading this who don't have the backstory - so it's always helpful to point out the specific facts and let them draw their own conclusions.
I think a lot of us just have reasonable expectations, and assume some of this stuff will be addressed in FW updates. Why you and TopPixel are so negative is beyond me.
You both get pretty beat up here, and you at DPR, duncang. TP claims he’s so vocal so that new photographers don’t buy the a1 on the basis they can get perfect screen grabs from an 8k, video, but why be so concerned with others? Do you guys go around the internet and just criticize things?
It seems like a miserable existence.
Mar 01, 2021 at 05:11 PM
p.43 #13A1 Reviews/Video thread
arbitrage wrote:
no offense, but you are confused about what's being discussed... the top pixel troll posted: "Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
he claimed that sony can't track at 30fps, that is wrong, as i detailed in the post above, from the sony manual.
wide area mode locks-on and tracks just as well as any other tracking mode, and mark galer got 30fps tracking with wide area mode.All I'm trying to do is clarify the terminology. Wide AF (non-tracking version) does continuous AF. And as I said, that could be considered tracking because it does track a subject across the frame. So I was agreeing with your argument. Mark Galer only said he can't get 30FPS if in any of the Tracking AF modes (ie the bottom icon on the vertical AF mode list). What Sony calls Real-Time Tracking in their marketing (but never in camera nor in the user manual
).
I think we need to drop the "Lock-on" terminology as that does not exist in the...Show more →
I think DPR described it quite well:
"So what is ‘Real-time tracking’? Simply now called ‘Tracking’, it’s Sony’s new subject tracking mode. Subject tracking allows you to indicate to your camera what your subject is, which you then trust it to track. Simply place your AF point over the subject, half-press the shutter to focus, and the camera will keep track of it no matter where it moves to in the frame - by automatically shifting the AF points as necessary."
Terminology is important. Tracking occurs, too, in wide without RTT engaged, but it is the camera deciding what the subject is. With RTT, now simply/loosely called tracking by some here, the user decides which suject to track. I would prefer calling it subject tracking (similar to Nikons 3D mode).
This doesn't make the claim you get 30 fps in wide with tracking wrong, or does anybody deny the camera is not doing any kind of tracking at all in that mode (albeit it is not RTT)?
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arbitrage wrote
I think the confusion lies in what we are calling Tracking and what Sony is calling Tracking.he claimed that sony can't track at 30fps, that is wrong, as i detailed in the post above, from the sony manual.
wide area mode locks-on and tracks just as well as any other tracking mode, and mark galer got 30fps tracking with wide area mode.
).I think we need to drop the "Lock-on" terminology as that does not exist in the...Show more →
I think DPR described it quite well:
"So what is ‘Real-time tracking’? Simply now called ‘Tracking’, it’s Sony’s new subject tracking mode. Subject tracking allows you to indicate to your camera what your subject is, which you then trust it to track. Simply place your AF point over the subject, half-press the shutter to focus, and the camera will keep track of it no matter where it moves to in the frame - by automatically shifting the AF points as necessary."
Terminology is important. Tracking occurs, too, in wide without RTT engaged, but it is the camera deciding what the subject is. With RTT, now simply/loosely called tracking by some here, the user decides which suject to track. I would prefer calling it subject tracking (similar to Nikons 3D mode).
This doesn't make the claim you get 30 fps in wide with tracking wrong, or does anybody deny the camera is not doing any kind of tracking at all in that mode (albeit it is not RTT)?
Mar 01, 2021 at 05:13 PM
p.43 #14A1 Reviews/Video thread
If you use RTT, use it and expect 26FPS. If you need that extra 4FPS, employ Wide AF via custom button.
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Mar 01, 2021 at 05:31 PM
p.43 #15A1 Reviews/Video thread
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I put him in "hide me" the 3rd day after he signed up.
Me to
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Do we actually care though? We are just arguing with TopPixel at this point. Maybe we can start another 'Pissing contest with TopPixel' thread and leave this one for commentary on Kai W's innuendo jokes.Me to
Mar 01, 2021 at 05:33 PM
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ShootPDX wrote:
no offense, but you are confused about what's being discussed... the top pixel troll posted: "Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"
he claimed that sony can't track at 30fps, that is wrong, as i detailed in the post above, from the sony manual.
wide area mode locks-on and tracks just as well as any other tracking mode, and mark galer got 30fps tracking with wide area mode.Listen carefully on Mark Galers video at 29:40 and I will quote Mark here "so here is the 30fps, this time 240 frames and um it's an 8 second burst and if you do the maths it's 30 fps, now what I have done is I have come out of tracking and just gone into AF-C Wide..."
https://youtu.be/vguyofpy16Y?t=1778Thank you for your service but I suspect @osv2@@@ is just trying to troll me. Surely he can't be that ignorant of what Mark Galer said?I have to assume folks are just not paying attention and miss some of the detail in these videos and as a result are genuinely unaware of their ignorance - or perhaps just suffer from selective myopia.
Either way there may be other 3rd parties reading this who don't have the backstory - so it's always helpful to point out the specific facts and let them draw their own conclusions.I think a lot of us just have reasonable expectations, and assume some of this stuff will be addressed in FW updates. Why you and TopPixel are so negative is beyond me.
You both get pretty beat up here, and you at DPR, duncang. TP claims he’s so vocal so that new photographers don’t buy the a1 on the basis they can get perfect screen grabs from an 8k, video, but why be so concerned with others? Do you guys go around the internet and just criticize things?
It seems like a miserable existence.
Why do you perceive explaining to osv2 what he clearly missed in Mark Galers video as being negative ?
duncang wrote
TopPixel wrote
duncang wrote
osv2 wrote
arbitrage wrote
I think the confusion lies in what we are calling Tracking and what Sony is calling Tracking.he claimed that sony can't track at 30fps, that is wrong, as i detailed in the post above, from the sony manual.
wide area mode locks-on and tracks just as well as any other tracking mode, and mark galer got 30fps tracking with wide area mode.
https://youtu.be/vguyofpy16Y?t=1778
Either way there may be other 3rd parties reading this who don't have the backstory - so it's always helpful to point out the specific facts and let them draw their own conclusions.
You both get pretty beat up here, and you at DPR, duncang. TP claims he’s so vocal so that new photographers don’t buy the a1 on the basis they can get perfect screen grabs from an 8k, video, but why be so concerned with others? Do you guys go around the internet and just criticize things?
It seems like a miserable existence.
Why do you perceive explaining to osv2 what he clearly missed in Mark Galers video as being negative ?
Mar 01, 2021 at 06:12 PM
p.43 #17A1 Reviews/Video thread
duncang wrote:
ShootPDX wrote
duncang wrote
TopPixel wrote
duncang wrote
osv2 wrote
no offense, but you are confused about what's being discussed... the top pixel troll posted: "Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF"he claimed that sony can't track at 30fps, that is wrong, as i detailed in the post above, from the sony manual.
wide area mode locks-on and tracks just as well as any other tracking mode, and mark galer got 30fps tracking with wide area mode.
https://youtu.be/vguyofpy16Y?t=1778
Either way there may be other 3rd parties reading this who don't have the backstory - so it's always helpful to point out the specific facts and let them draw their own conclusions.
You both get pretty beat up here, and you at DPR, duncang. TP claims he’s so vocal so that new photographers don’t buy the a1 on the basis they can get perfect screen grabs from an 8k, video, but why be so concerned with others? Do you guys go around the internet and just criticize things?
It seems like a miserable existence.
I guess because most people don’t really care that much. The origin of the whole debate is pointless and the fact he felt the need to even say anything kind of points out the absurdity of TP’s relentless criticisms.
If that’s your cup of tea, more power to you I guess!
Mar 01, 2021 at 06:21 PM
p.43 #18A1 Reviews/Video thread
Bill Claff has posted the full Sony A1 dynamic range and read noise charts at Photons to Photos. I immediately took a look at the A1 vs. A7R3 as can be seen here:
https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Sony%20ILCE-1,Sony%20ILCE-7RM3
I think most shooters will be satisfied, at base ISO there nearly a half stop advantage over the A9II and only 1/3 stop deficit vs. the A7R3. As the ISO rises to 640 and above the cameras all equal out.
Interestingly, Bill notes that the dual gain conversion happens at ISO 500 for the A1 vs. ISO 640 for the A7R3/A7III/A9II.
For read noise, there isn't a consistent trend, but generally the A7R3 is better at the lower ISOs and the A9II is better at the high end. However, I don't know about about read noise ratings to say if any of the differences will be significant or visible in most shots.
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https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Sony%20ILCE-1,Sony%20ILCE-7RM3
I think most shooters will be satisfied, at base ISO there nearly a half stop advantage over the A9II and only 1/3 stop deficit vs. the A7R3. As the ISO rises to 640 and above the cameras all equal out.
Interestingly, Bill notes that the dual gain conversion happens at ISO 500 for the A1 vs. ISO 640 for the A7R3/A7III/A9II.
For read noise, there isn't a consistent trend, but generally the A7R3 is better at the lower ISOs and the A9II is better at the high end. However, I don't know about about read noise ratings to say if any of the differences will be significant or visible in most shots.
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Mar 01, 2021 at 06:28 PM
p.43 #19A1 Reviews/Video thread
duncang wrote:
Why do you perceive explaining to osv2 what he clearly missed in Mark Galers video as being negative ?
Interesting pattern developing. Duncang is a new member like TopPixel. Looking at his posts they are mostly, if not all him, chiming in to support ToPixel.
I don't believe in coincidences like this.
Do you?
Why do you perceive explaining to osv2 what he clearly missed in Mark Galers video as being negative ?
Interesting pattern developing. Duncang is a new member like TopPixel. Looking at his posts they are mostly, if not all him, chiming in to support ToPixel.
I don't believe in coincidences like this.
Do you?
Mar 01, 2021 at 06:30 PM
p.43 #20A1 Reviews/Video thread
1bwana1 wrote:
Interesting pattern developing. Duncang is a new member like TopPixel. Looking at his posts they are mostly, if not all him, chiming in to support ToPixel.
I don't believe in coincidences like this.
Do you?
I’d be surprised if they’re the same person.
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Why do you perceive explaining to osv2 what he clearly missed in Mark Galers video as being negative ?I don't believe in coincidences like this.
Do you?
I’d be surprised if they’re the same person.
Mar 01, 2021 at 06:32 PM