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p.39 #1A1 Reviews/Video thread
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Until people try different settings we should not rush to such conclusions as you are often up to.I do not rush to conclusions. Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF in his YouTube review at the 28 minute mark:
https://youtu.be/vguyofpy16Y?t=1686I know that video. I still am not convinced he really tested it with other possible parameter combinations. He got that with the settings he used for this video. Sure.So you are saying Mark Galer is secretly Tony Northrup?Are you trolling again or can't you read?
I said he got the results using the parameters he used in the video. But I doubt he used all possible combinations to definitely say you can only get 26.6 fps with tracking as you claim.
Did we not give Tony Northrup a pounding for not using "all possible combinations" in his preview video of the Alpha 1 where he says he could not get 30 fps? Why the double standard for Mark Galer vs Tony Northrup on the exact same topic?
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26.6 fps ? Wait and see after people play around with it. I just remember a recent post of someone trying to get 20 fps on the A9ii. He needed to switch IBIS off, stuff like shading compensation etc.Until people try different settings we should not rush to such conclusions as you are often up to.
https://youtu.be/vguyofpy16Y?t=1686
I said he got the results using the parameters he used in the video. But I doubt he used all possible combinations to definitely say you can only get 26.6 fps with tracking as you claim.
Did we not give Tony Northrup a pounding for not using "all possible combinations" in his preview video of the Alpha 1 where he says he could not get 30 fps? Why the double standard for Mark Galer vs Tony Northrup on the exact same topic?
Feb 28, 2021 at 05:19 PM
p.39 #2A1 Reviews/Video thread
TopPixel wrote:
Until people try different settings we should not rush to such conclusions as you are often up to.I do not rush to conclusions. Mark Galer explicitly details why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with a tracking AF in his YouTube review at the 28 minute mark:
https://youtu.be/vguyofpy16Y?t=1686I know that video. I still am not convinced he really tested it with other possible parameter combinations. He got that with the settings he used for this video. Sure.So you are saying Mark Galer is secretly Tony Northrup?Are you trolling again or can't you read?
I said he got the results using the parameters he used in the video. But I doubt he used all possible combinations to definitely say you can only get 26.6 fps with tracking as you claim.Did we not give Tony Northrup a pounding for not using "all possible combinations" in his preview video of the Alpha 1 where he says he could not get 30 fps? Why the double standard for Mark Galer vs Tony Northrup on the exact same topic?
What nonsense. You know quite well why T.N. was criticised. There no double standard, you are just deflecting and exaggerating things. Not the first time. I don't have time to feed a troll.
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26.6 fps ? Wait and see after people play around with it. I just remember a recent post of someone trying to get 20 fps on the A9ii. He needed to switch IBIS off, stuff like shading compensation etc.Until people try different settings we should not rush to such conclusions as you are often up to.
https://youtu.be/vguyofpy16Y?t=1686
I said he got the results using the parameters he used in the video. But I doubt he used all possible combinations to definitely say you can only get 26.6 fps with tracking as you claim.
What nonsense. You know quite well why T.N. was criticised. There no double standard, you are just deflecting and exaggerating things. Not the first time. I don't have time to feed a troll.
Feb 28, 2021 at 05:23 PM
p.39 #3A1 Reviews/Video thread
I asked the Pro Support again in the BeAlpha Live A1 room and they said that the A1 still uses small jpegs attached to RAWs. Mike said that he wants it and hears the request loud and clear but the engineers haven't added that functionality yet.
Feb 28, 2021 at 05:55 PM
p.39 #4A1 Reviews/Video thread
On Sony Alpha Live just now Mike from Pro Support explicitly said that he tested every rated 30FPS lens and was absolutely able to get 30FPS or more from each one. He creates a spreadsheet proving it. He said he watched some of the YouTube videos saying they were not able to do it. He said it was their fault not the cameras.
Take it for what its worth. I will judge when I shoot one.
Take it for what its worth. I will judge when I shoot one.
Feb 28, 2021 at 05:58 PM
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p.39 #5A1 Reviews/Video thread
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I asked the Pro Support again in the BeAlpha Live A1 room and they said that the A1 still uses small jpegs attached to RAWs. Mike said that he wants it and hears the request loud and clear but the engineers haven't added that functionality yet.
From my exports out of 52 DPR review RAW files of the Alpha 1, they all have the small JPEG embedded along with the new full size JPEG. The small JPEG was never in question. The huge file size of the new full size embedded JPEG is the real problem.
You should ask Sony again why they embedded both JPEG files making the Alpha 1 RAW files 28% less efficient on a per pixel basis.
Feb 28, 2021 at 05:59 PM
p.39 #6A1 Reviews/Video thread
In case anyone wonders: HEIF is not "patent encumbered". There are lots of patents involved, but they are covered by a license fee of 20cent per device. Big deal for open source software where any supported formats need to be fully royalty-free. Anyway, this is covered by Sony.
The good news (for me) is that apparently both Lightroom and Capture One already support HEIF on both Mac and Windows:-)
The good news (for me) is that apparently both Lightroom and Capture One already support HEIF on both Mac and Windows:-)
Feb 28, 2021 at 05:59 PM
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p.39 #7A1 Reviews/Video thread
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On Sony Alpha Live just now Mike from Pro Support explicitly said that he tested every rated 30FPS lens and was absolutely able to get 30FPS or more from each one. He creates a spreadsheet proving it. He said he watched some of the YouTube videos saying they were not able to do it. He said it was their fault not the cameras.
Take it for what its worth. I will judge when I shoot one.
Tell Mike from Sony to talk to Mark Galer from Sony about why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with tracking.
Feb 28, 2021 at 06:01 PM
p.39 #8A1 Reviews/Video thread
TopPixel wrote:
Take it for what its worth. I will judge when I shoot one.Tell Mike from Sony to talk to Mark Galer from Sony about why the Alpha 1 can only do 26.6 fps with tracking.
Mark Galer is not from Sony. As usual you use facts loosely.
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On Sony Alpha Live just now Mike from Pro Support explicitly said that he tested every rated 30FPS lens and was absolutely able to get 30FPS or more from each one. He creates a spreadsheet proving it. He said he watched some of the YouTube videos saying they were not able to do it. He said it was their fault not the cameras.Take it for what its worth. I will judge when I shoot one.
Mark Galer is not from Sony. As usual you use facts loosely.
Feb 28, 2021 at 06:12 PM
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p.39 #9A1 Reviews/Video thread
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On Sony Alpha Live just now Mike from Pro Support explicitly said that he tested every rated 30FPS lens and was absolutely able to get 30FPS or more from each one. He creates a spreadsheet proving it. He said he watched some of the YouTube videos saying they were not able to do it. He said it was their fault not the cameras.Take it for what its worth. I will judge when I shoot one.
You haven't realized what Mark Galer means when he calls himself a "Sony Ambassador" in his videos? Hint: It means he is sponsored by Sony.
Feb 28, 2021 at 06:17 PM
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p.39 #10A1 Reviews/Video thread
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In case anyone wonders: HEIF is not "patent encumbered". There are lots of patents involved, but they are covered by a license fee of 20cent per device. Big deal for open source software where any supported formats need to be fully royalty-free. Anyway, this is covered by Sony.
The good news (for me) is that apparently both Lightroom and Capture One already support HEIF on both Mac and Windows:-)
As of May 2020, there is no native browser support for HEIF, while both Google's Chromium[15] and Mozilla's Firefox[16] have experimental AVIF support. Facebook supports the upload of HEIC but converts to JPEG or WEBP on display.[17]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Image_File_Format
Good luck getting Google and Facebook to pay a royalty for each of the billions of users or instances of Chrome or Facebook. That's why HEIF is going to be a dead format. No web browser supports it and neither does Facebook.
And it is not "20 cents" for a HEIF license, you are spreading misinformation. There are a lot more costs.
Feb 28, 2021 at 06:20 PM
p.39 #11A1 Reviews/Video thread
TopPixel wrote:
You haven't realized what Mark Galer means when he calls himself a "Sony Ambassador" in his videos? Hint: It means he is sponsored by Sony.
It looks like you haven't figured things out.
When you are "From" a Company you are an employee and speak on that company's behalf. When you are an "Ambassador" you are a special level of customer that uses that company's equipment and advocates on behalf of a company. Often on a non compensated basis.
Companies I am a principle in use ambassadors in many capacities, but they are not "from" those companies, and don't speak for them.
When I was involved in professional race driving I was sponsored by many companies. I was not an employee, I did not speak for them, and I wasn't "from" those companies.
Maybe your hostility, misinformation, and poor understanding of things, as expressed on these forums, is actually because of limited views on things based in a lack of accomplishment and experience in the World?
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You haven't realized what Mark Galer means when he calls himself a "Sony Ambassador" in his videos? Hint: It means he is sponsored by Sony.
It looks like you haven't figured things out.
When you are "From" a Company you are an employee and speak on that company's behalf. When you are an "Ambassador" you are a special level of customer that uses that company's equipment and advocates on behalf of a company. Often on a non compensated basis.
Companies I am a principle in use ambassadors in many capacities, but they are not "from" those companies, and don't speak for them.
When I was involved in professional race driving I was sponsored by many companies. I was not an employee, I did not speak for them, and I wasn't "from" those companies.
Maybe your hostility, misinformation, and poor understanding of things, as expressed on these forums, is actually because of limited views on things based in a lack of accomplishment and experience in the World?
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Feb 28, 2021 at 06:29 PM
p.39 #12A1 Reviews/Video thread
Holger wrote:
Are you trolling again or can't you read?
Trolling again? When is he not trolling?
Are you trolling again or can't you read?
Trolling again? When is he not trolling?
Feb 28, 2021 at 06:29 PM
p.39 #13A1 Reviews/Video thread
I couldn't care less about 30FPS, 26.6FPS, HEIF, jpeg previews, or screen grabs for 8k.
I'm just glad I have an a9 w/ 50MP on the way.
I'm just glad I have an a9 w/ 50MP on the way.
Feb 28, 2021 at 06:32 PM
p.39 #14A1 Reviews/Video thread
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Good luck getting Google and Facebook to pay a royalty for each of the billions of users or instances of Chrome or Facebook. That's why HEIF is going to be a dead format. No web browser supports it and neither does Facebook.
Why would I need browser support for HEIF? I don't know what your problem is, but apparently it isn't centered around working with images from Sony cameras.
And it is not "20 cents" for a HEIF license, you are spreading misinformation. There are a lot more costs.
That was just the first quote I found, googling it. Really don't care though, as I won't ever directly pay it. As all players relevant for images on Sony are apparently already on board, there doesn't seem to be a problem.
Good luck getting Google and Facebook to pay a royalty for each of the billions of users or instances of Chrome or Facebook. That's why HEIF is going to be a dead format. No web browser supports it and neither does Facebook.
Why would I need browser support for HEIF? I don't know what your problem is, but apparently it isn't centered around working with images from Sony cameras.
And it is not "20 cents" for a HEIF license, you are spreading misinformation. There are a lot more costs.
That was just the first quote I found, googling it. Really don't care though, as I won't ever directly pay it. As all players relevant for images on Sony are apparently already on board, there doesn't seem to be a problem.
Feb 28, 2021 at 06:40 PM
p.39 #15A1 Reviews/Video thread
TopPixel wrote:
Good luck getting Google and Facebook to pay a royalty for each of the billions of users or instances of Chrome or Facebook. That's why HEIF is going to be a dead format. No web browser supports it and neither does Facebook.
And it is not "20 cents" for a HEIF license, you are spreading misinformation. There are a lot more costs.
Use of the HEIF format is free, so please stop spreading misinformation.
Good luck getting Google and Facebook to pay a royalty for each of the billions of users or instances of Chrome or Facebook. That's why HEIF is going to be a dead format. No web browser supports it and neither does Facebook.
And it is not "20 cents" for a HEIF license, you are spreading misinformation. There are a lot more costs.
Use of the HEIF format is free, so please stop spreading misinformation.
Feb 28, 2021 at 06:41 PM
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p.39 #16A1 Reviews/Video thread
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Good luck getting Google and Facebook to pay a royalty for each of the billions of users or instances of Chrome or Facebook. That's why HEIF is going to be a dead format. No web browser supports it and neither does Facebook.And it is not "20 cents" for a HEIF license, you are spreading misinformation. There are a lot more costs.
Tell that to the Google and Facebook lawyers and they will laugh you out onto the street. Looks like you just read the first line about HEIF and don't bother to actually look into the details.
Feb 28, 2021 at 06:43 PM
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p.39 #17A1 Reviews/Video thread
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You haven't realized what Mark Galer means when he calls himself a "Sony Ambassador" in his videos? Hint: It means he is sponsored by Sony.When you are "From" a Company you are an employee and speak on that company's behalf. When you are an "Ambassador" you are a special level of customer that uses that company's equipment and advocates on behalf of a company. Often on a non compensated basis.
Companies I am a principle in use ambassadors in many capacities, but they are not "from" those companies, and don't speak for them.
When I was involved in professional race driving I was sponsored by many companies. I was not an employee, I did not speak for them, and...Show more →
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a sponsored social media influencer from the Sony Ambassador program. You can go about all the technicalities you want but at the end of the day, they are a paid part of Sony's marketing department as shown in this interview with a Sony Executive:
https://www.traackr.com/blog/conversation-sony-ambassador-programs
Feb 28, 2021 at 07:02 PM
p.39 #18A1 Reviews/Video thread
TopPixel wrote:
And it is not "20 cents" for a HEIF license, you are spreading misinformation. There are a lot more costs.Use of the HEIF format is free, so please stop spreading misinformation.Tell that to the Google and Facebook lawyers and they will laugh you out onto the street. Looks like you just read the first line about HEIF and don't bother to actually look into the details.
It's pretty obvious you didn't read the entire reference that you quoted from earlier... reading comprehension problems must be a side effect of excessive trolling.
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Good luck getting Google and Facebook to pay a royalty for each of the billions of users or instances of Chrome or Facebook. That's why HEIF is going to be a dead format. No web browser supports it and neither does Facebook.And it is not "20 cents" for a HEIF license, you are spreading misinformation. There are a lot more costs.
It's pretty obvious you didn't read the entire reference that you quoted from earlier... reading comprehension problems must be a side effect of excessive trolling.
Feb 28, 2021 at 07:13 PM
p.39 #19A1 Reviews/Video thread
TopPixel wrote:
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,
If it posts like a troll, and misrepresents like a troll.....
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,
If it posts like a troll, and misrepresents like a troll.....
Feb 28, 2021 at 07:13 PM
p.39 #20A1 Reviews/Video thread
stuuke wrote:
I asked the Pro Support again in the BeAlpha Live A1 room and they said that the A1 still uses small jpegs attached to RAWs. Mike said that he wants it and hears the request loud and clear but the engineers haven't added that functionality yet.
so weird they said that because when i open a raw file from the a1 to view it in Photomechanic its a 1:1 preview, unlike my a9 or a7riv raw files
I asked the Pro Support again in the BeAlpha Live A1 room and they said that the A1 still uses small jpegs attached to RAWs. Mike said that he wants it and hears the request loud and clear but the engineers haven't added that functionality yet.
so weird they said that because when i open a raw file from the a1 to view it in Photomechanic its a 1:1 preview, unlike my a9 or a7riv raw files
Feb 28, 2021 at 07:15 PM