I have the 24mm coming to join my 45mm which I absolutely love. I too would love to see anything in this Sigma i series from 85mm to 105mm f/2.8 or even f/3.5. Keeping it light and as small as possible while maintaining the attractive rendering and sharpness across the frame. Looking to make this my light 3 prime kit for travel and longer hiking situations.
Chuck Coyne wrote:
I have the 24mm coming to join my 45mm which I absolutely love. I too would love to see anything in this Sigma i series from 85mm to 105mm f/2.8 or even f/3.5. Keeping it light and as small as possible while maintaining the attractive rendering and sharpness across the frame. Looking to make this my light 3 prime kit for travel and longer hiking situations.
I would love a 105 f2 to complement the 35 and 65mm f2 options
scalanc2 wrote:
In the mean time I think the 85DN is an acceptable ad-interim alternative.
I have thought about that, but personally I can't see having the 65 f/2 I DN and the 85 f/1.4 Art DN, and as part of the same set I think they are too close for me to want to carry both. A nice 105 f/2 I DN that weighs 525g, I think would complement the 65 f/2 DN a lot better. I think a 135 f/2.8 I DN that weighs about 400g, however, would be even better yet. Obviously one would emphasize keeping a wider aperture and the other would emphasize keeping the kit small, so both could be good options.
I have the 85 DG DN and just decided to order the 65 f/2 I DG DN so I will now have all 4 Sigma I DG DN series lenses to test. I agree with Steve that the focal length of the 65 f/2 and 85 f/1.4 may be too close to pair well. Also while the 85 f/1.4 DG DN is a comparably smaller sized 85mm f/1.4 lens, it is much bigger than the 65 f/2 I DG DN. But I will see once I test them out next week. I'm also wondering which lenses pair best as a 3 lens travel light kit; the 24, 35, & 65; or 24, 45, 65? I really love the 45 f/2.8 rendering and will likely still use it as a one lens kit for walking around and group shots. But really hoping that Sigma will produce a nice 100mm or 105mm I series lens.
I'm only playing with the lens at the moment, and don't pretend these samples tell us much, but I got to look around a local spa hotel from the 1930s that is closing down for gut renovation, so I had a look at the rooms on the last day before the beds are sold and the builders move in...
A short tele for the I Series would be awesome but modest aperture is essential. Otherwise, might as well use one of the 10,000 primes already available. Inspirations from the past include the CZ Sonnar 85/2.8 and 100/3.5 C/Y, Tele-Tessar 85/4 ZM, Leica Elmar 90/4. If those seem too slow, then you should consider the Sigma 105/1.4 and CZ Otus 100/1.4.
rico wrote:
A short tele for the I Series would be awesome but modest aperture is essential. Otherwise, might as well use one of the 10,000 primes already available. Inspirations from the past include the CZ Sonnar 85/2.8 and 100/3.5 C/Y, Tele-Tessar 85/4 ZM, Leica Elmar 90/4. If those seem too slow, then you should consider the Sigma 105/1.4 and CZ Otus 100/1.4.
I would like to include Leica Tele Elmar 135/4 and the Apo Telyt 135/3.4 as well.
Chuck Coyne wrote:
I have the 85 DG DN and just decided to order the 65 f/2 I DG DN so I will now have all 4 Sigma I DG DN series lenses to test. I agree with Steve that the focal length of the 65 f/2 and 85 f/1.4 may be too close to pair well. Also while the 85 f/1.4 DG DN is a comparably smaller sized 85mm f/1.4 lens, it is much bigger than the 65 f/2 I DG DN. But I will see once I test them out next week. I'm also wondering which lenses pair best as a 3 lens travel light kit; the 24, 35, & 65; or 24, 45, 65? I really love the 45 f/2.8 rendering and will likely still use it as a one lens kit for walking around and group shots. But really hoping that Sigma will produce a nice 100mm or 105mm I series lens....Show more →
+1 about 65 / 85 proximity. I also think the 65 is kinda close to the 45.
I own (and love) the 45/2.8, am awaiting delivery of a 35/2, and have pre-ordered the 24/3.5. But I regard the 65/2 as a “wrong turn” in that it’s a marked departure from what I thought would was the small size, modest aperture ethos of the I-series lenses. (TBH I think the 35/2 skates right up to the “too big” line as well.) I’d love to see a 90mm or 100mm short tele but please, please let it be a 2.8 or a 3.5 with a 55mm or 58mm filter thread.
I'm on an APS-C, so I've got the 30/1.4 (45).
I think the 65 (97) is calling to me more than the 85 (132), for something like this.
30, 65, 55-135
The 24-35, 35-45, 45-65 and 65-85mm ranges have similar field of view gaps which means that 24, 35, 45, 65 and 85mm are similarly spaced but perhaps too many lenses to carry.
Here are options for 3 lenses with similar fov gaps:
24 - 45 - 85
or
35 - 65 - 135
Just came back shooting with the Sigma 105mm f/2.8, which I'm gonna keep along these new I-series lenses that I'm definitely gonna get (24 and 65 are "must-haves" and 35 most likely too, even if it will compete with my CV40), once available here (still no info). I think Sigma has really caught my attention with their recent lineup. Gonna build my kit mostly with Sigma's, paired with one or two Voigtländers. I think I might get the 21mm f/1.4 Nokton to pair up with my CV40.
I really love the 105mm Art. I have zero regrets that I replace my FE 85mm f/1.8 with it. Wonderful rendering at any range, focus is fast enough for fast subjects in good lighting and really nice handling even if it's on the "heavy" side. But since it's my only biggish lens, I don't mind it's size. But still, I wouldn't mind a really compact 90mm f/2 or f/2.8 lens from Sigma, that wasn't a macro lens.
genji wrote:
[...] But I regard the 65/2 as a “wrong turn” in that it’s a marked departure from what I thought would was the small size, modest aperture ethos of the I-series lenses. [...]
I personally think it's encouraging. It shows that Sigma is being pragmatic. They have a vision when they design every lens. I'm glad the I-series didn't turn into the f/2.8-series, as Tamron would have made it.
I'm hoping for:
- Small, discrete 180/200mm to compete with the bad ergonomics of 70-200mm's with extending barrels
- Reasonably priced apodization lens
- Tilt-shift
I should have the 24, 35, and 65 delivered on Tuesday. Along with my 45 I’m really looking forward to seeing how they compare to my larger and faster 3 lens kit (Sony 24 f1.4 GM, my pre-ordered Sony 35 f1.4GM and Sigma 85 f1.4 DG DN) and my Voigtlander 3 lens kit ( CV 21 f1.4, 35 f1.2 SE, and 50 F2 APO). I’m thinking that the Sigma’s will replace my Voigtlander kit. I prefer to have the AF and the MF feel of the 45mm is actually very nice.
Fred Miranda wrote:
The 24-35, 35-45, 45-65 and 65-85mm ranges have similar field of view gaps which means that 24, 35, 45, 65 and 85mm are similarly spaced but perhaps too many lenses to carry.
Here are options for 3 lenses with similar fov gaps:
24 - 45 - 85
or
35 - 65 - 135
THE 65 is pretty much exactly what I've been wanting for years (something between 50 and 85 that is well corrected with soft & round bokeh almost all the way to the corners), so I'm okay with paying a higher price and weight cost for it. I only wish it had a custom button and full weather sealing for that price.
Considering the focal length, I think f2 should be fast enough for both casual and professional work for me, as long as they follow it up with something between 100-120mm for when I want more separation. 135mm renders beautiful images, but the focal length is such a pain to use as you need to be a long distance away from your subject which makes doing shoots more difficult and isolated. I would definitely prefer that they keep it at f2 if it's around 100mm as the whole point of that focal length for me would be to separate the subject from the background more.
Chuck Coyne wrote:
I should have the 24, 35, and 65 delivered on Tuesday. Along with my 45 I’m really looking forward to seeing how they compare to my larger and faster 3 lens kit (Sony 24 f1.4 GM, my pre-ordered Sony 35 f1.4GM and Sigma 85 f1.4 DG DN) and my Voigtlander 3 lens kit ( CV 21 f1.4, 35 f1.2 SE, and 50 F2 APO). I’m thinking that the Sigma’s will replace my Voigtlander kit. I prefer to have the AF and the MF feel of the 45mm is actually very nice.
You will likely get them before I do. Post some of your initial tests if you can.
