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windsun33 wrote:
The DR-E6 has a circular connector. The Anker PD pack has a USB-C connector, so how do they tie up to charge the camera?


I described how this works in my first post along with a picture of all the parts. With my to-be new Canon DR-E6, I will retire 1/2 of the Gonine system.

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Nov 17, 2020 at 01:51 PM
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p.2 #2 · R5/R6 - Battery / Coupler / Charging in the field - lessons & questions


garydavidjones wrote:
get 4 NH batteries and the BG-10 grip. You're set.
You'll end up electrocuting yourself with all
those crazy connections!


I love a challenge and... add a little risk of death... well, you ain't stopping me!

BG-10 grip = $350.00 four NH batteries = $80x4 = $320 = $670 !!!!

Besides dicing with death, I am cheap too. If I pull this off, I will have permanent power for about the price of one NH battery....

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Nov 17, 2020 at 01:55 PM
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Here's good news for 3rd party NH and the dual charger for $54 on Amazon, I read through reviews and R5 owner gives thumbs up and green H+. I ordered and will give this a try myself.

https://www.amazon.com/BM-Premium-LP-E6NH-Capacity-Batteries/dp/B08FNV5J6J/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=2+Pack+of+LP-E6NH+charger&qid=1605724344&s=electronics&sr=1-3



Nov 18, 2020 at 01:50 PM
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What are the minimum specs for portable PD battery pack i need to charge up the LP-E6NH batteries? Also, with the R5 grip installed, what cord do i need please? Thanks


Nov 18, 2020 at 02:02 PM
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annmpacheco wrote:
Here's good news for 3rd party NH and the dual charger for $54 on Amazon, I read through reviews and R5 owner gives thumbs up and green H+. I ordered and will give this a try myself.

https://www.amazon.com/BM-Premium-LP-E6NH-Capacity-Batteries/dp/B08FNV5J6J/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=2+Pack+of+LP-E6NH+charger&qid=1605724344&s=electronics&sr=1-3


Wow, thanks for the heads up. Ordering now from Canada. I'm still waiting for Canon official ones that have been backordered for 2 months now. If these give 12FPS I'll just drop my regular order down to one more Canon one and use these two as my backups!!



Nov 18, 2020 at 03:54 PM
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arbitrage wrote:
Wow, thanks for the heads up. Ordering now from Canada. I'm still waiting for Canon official ones that have been backordered for 2 months now. If these give 12FPS I'll just drop my regular order down to one more Canon one and use these two as my backups!!


Interesting! Let us know how they work out Geoff.



Nov 18, 2020 at 04:29 PM
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I don't know the minimum spec, I just know that the 20000 is way much. A 10000 I am sure will be fine... but they are so cheap, why not get the max? Just make sure it is Power Delivery (PD).

The Anker and I suspect others come with a cord. It is a C-to-C cord. IIRC, Canon supplies a short one in the camera box.

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Nov 18, 2020 at 04:53 PM
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Bruce n Philly wrote:
I don't know the minimum spec, I just know that the 20000 is way much. A 10000 I am sure will be fine... but they are so cheap, why not get the max? Just make sure it is Power Delivery (PD).

The Anker and I suspect others come with a cord. It is a C-to-C cord. IIRC, Canon supplies a short one in the camera box.

Peace
Bruce in Philly


Thanks for the info




Nov 18, 2020 at 05:29 PM
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does anyone know of a charger that works on usb "C"


Nov 19, 2020 at 06:23 PM
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I recently shot 11000 frames on my R5 on birds in about 5 hours. I was drilling the camera hard to see what it could do. I had a total of 4 NH batteries with me and two in my grip for the first 9900 shots. I swapped for the second set after about 9000 shots or so because I didn’t want to chance falling out of H+ green on that first set. Note that I got my R5 on Aug 1 and this shooting happened at the end of Oct, so these batteries were broken in and not brand new. I did use the ES for a bit but turned it off after I saw the rolling shutter effect in shots of birds in front of backgrounds.

Personally, I see no need for a charger in the field or any need to limit how I use the camera. I am not turning anything off to save battery life.

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Nov 19, 2020 at 07:05 PM
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Very simple, folks. Get a 45w PD battery and you can power the R5 from it (and charge the batteries when the camera is off).

I use this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XRJZXKY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I shot over 10k frames in one day on that battery pack over 8 hours and only drew it down halfway.

Rule of thumb: 18W PD will charge the batteries, 45W PD will power the camera.



Nov 19, 2020 at 07:56 PM
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Flowernut wrote:
does anyone know of a charger that works on usb "C"


Are you looking for a wall plug, a portable battery or a charger you put the batteries on that is USB-C to USB-C?

I use this portable charger which is USB-C: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B083HZPKQN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have these two wall chargers: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B083ZBMJNT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm not aware of a LP-E6 battery charger that has a USB-C input.



Nov 19, 2020 at 08:28 PM
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JoeTomasone wrote:
Very simple, folks. Get a 45w PD battery and you can power the R5 from it (and charge the batteries when the camera is off).

I use this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XRJZXKY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I shot over 10k frames in one day on that battery pack over 8 hours and only drew it down halfway.

Rule of thumb: 18W PD will charge the batteries, 45W PD will power the camera.


Joe, thanx for this.... I purchased the wrong Anker battery.... I got the 18W. That explains why it charges the battery but won't run the camera. The manual is very confusing on this with odd information regarding the grip or not.

Where in the manual is this distinction? I can't seem to find it.

Thanx for this.

Peace
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Nov 19, 2020 at 08:41 PM
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I also bought the 45W Anker PD battery. It does power the R5 but you do lose the green H+. Haven't had a chance yet to see what FPS I can get.

Ted



Nov 19, 2020 at 08:58 PM
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ted1000 wrote:
I also bought the 45W Anker PD battery. It does power the R5 but you do lose the green H+. Haven't had a chance yet to see what FPS I can get.

Ted


The plot thickens.......

At a minimum, you can charge between shootings...... not bad, but running direct is way better.

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Nov 19, 2020 at 09:02 PM
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Sorry I should have been more specific. I've got a batter pack. What I'm looking for is a charger that I can connect to it that will charge two camera batteries at a time off usb "c". I'm guessing USB c can provide more power for a faster charge maybe as fast as a wall plug in.

I've worked with external batteries in winter back in the good old days before lithium ion and I'm not that excited about it. May still use it for very long night exposures. I'd rather use a pair, and swap out for another pair then put the discharged pair in a battery powered charger. The other approach is to collect a bunch of batteries like I did for a 7 day trip into the Wind Rivers Cirque of the Towers where we didn't have charging capabilities of any kind. 6 batteries was not cheap.



Nov 20, 2020 at 09:41 AM
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Flowernut wrote:
Sorry I should have been more specific. I've got a batter pack. What I'm looking for is a charger that I can connect to it that will charge two camera batteries at a time off usb "c". I'm guessing USB c can provide more power for a faster charge maybe as fast as a wall plug in.


Yeah I'm not sure if that would make a difference or not. I'm using my RavPower Dual slot charger via USB-A into my wall charge or my Battery Pack. But I haven't watched how fast/slow it actually takes to charge. So far the only times I've used it was when my one and only LP-E6NH ran down to 40% and lost me 12FPS, then I'd slap that on the charger hooked to the power bank in my bag and let it charge as I limped along (or went back to ES) with one of my RavPower clone batteries that only support 7FPS.

The input to the dual charger is just a micro-usb as it seems most of them are. The latest BM dual charger that comes with legit NH recognized clones seems to be the same.



Nov 20, 2020 at 09:48 AM
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arbitrage wrote:
Wow, thanks for the heads up. Ordering now from Canada. I'm still waiting for Canon official ones that have been backordered for 2 months now. If these give 12FPS I'll just drop my regular order down to one more Canon one and use these two as my backups!!


I bought those recently and they seem to work for me.



Nov 20, 2020 at 12:34 PM
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I didn't see it in the manual - I figured it out through trial, error, the specs of the plug-in adaptor, and a USB power meter.

I get 20fps in electronic shutter - haven't measured it in mechanical or first curtain yet, but it doesn't SEEM to have slowed down.




Nov 20, 2020 at 02:42 PM
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JoeTomasone wrote:
I didn't see it in the manual - I figured it out through trial, error, the specs of the plug-in adaptor, and a USB power meter.

I get 20fps in electronic shutter - haven't measured it in mechanical or first curtain yet, but it doesn't SEEM to have slowed down.



Thanx Joe! You may be interested in below.....

UPDATE: I got my Canon dummy battery DR-E6 and did some tests.

1 - Bummer. The camera recognized the dummy as an old-style LP-E6 battery, same as my Gonine dummy
2 - Yeeha!! It gave me a GREEN H+ and ran the camera. Woohoo! this should run at full throttle. The Gonine would give a flashing white H+ (but there is an issue...read on...)
3 - Bummer the Gonine and Canon battery hookups use a different plug/socket.... The Canon looks proprietary.... still looking for one on eBay. Regardless, I can cut/splice the one from the Gonine and make it work.. but not yet...
4 - How did I test without compatible plugs?... I just wired it up using gator clips and pins.
5 - The Issue: The camera operates fine, green H+... butt... darn that big butt.... when I fired off continuous mechanical or 1st curtain shutter, the camera shut down after about 1 second of firing. It worked fine in Electronic Shutter. DARN. Why? I suspect not enough juice. Maybe that 45W Anker will do it.

So.... what I need to do is buy that 45W Anker.... but not yet. I want to hear from others about this 45W Anker. It is expensive and comes with a charger. I don't need the charger and I can't find one without the charger.... this must be new stuff.... so I will wait for more information and the price of those 45W Ankers to come down.

I am in no hurry.... Using the 20000 PD Anker hooked to my camera is working out well. I have been out four days now using it... it charges fine between shooting... I don't like turning off the camera to charge... but hey, it works fine.

So... for the price of less than one new Canon battery, you can have unlimited power out in the field... it works. And since your are running of the original battery, you get full frames per second, the green H+.

So far, I wasted about $50 on the Gonine converter and the Canon dummy battery.... which I still may use one day. Not bad... could be worse. I still am way ahead than buying a bag of Canon batteries.

Joe, if you lived closer, we could solve this in 15 mnts........

Peace
Bruce in Philly



Nov 20, 2020 at 06:37 PM
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