In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
p.8 #1In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
vdo1 wrote:
Cause I fear that such wait might be veeery long..... and if I don't get my Sigma now, I will be in for another loong wait watching the "Out of Stock" notice at my favourite shops here.....Ha! I knew it! Just ordered one from Vistek and it proved to be their last one, the web site now displays availability as being "On Order". The other big chain here didn't have any stock today.B&H shows them in stock.Yes but I'm located in Canada so I would rather stay with a Canadian chain as to avoid trans-border shipment entertainment these days. 
I could meet you at the border
nhsonyshooter wrote
vdo1 wrote
vdo1 wrote
So do I order it now or do I wait for an illusory Sony 100 GM OSS APO STF Macro BIF ASTRO?Cause I fear that such wait might be veeery long..... and if I don't get my Sigma now, I will be in for another loong wait watching the "Out of Stock" notice at my favourite shops here.....
I could meet you at the border
Nov 02, 2020 at 12:20 PM
p.8 #2In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Will try to pull this off, but it may not be until the weekend. Working an 8 to 5 job and now that the clocks have changed, I don't really get any "daylight" shooting during the week. I doubt I could pull the test off in the morning.
-Tim
vdo1 wrote:
tsdevine wrote
So the sun is out, but I’m working at the moment. I’ve never actually done this type of test before. Can somebody give me a primer? Hood on or off? Particular apertures to test? You want a comparison to the CV or just a straight test of the Sigma? The slightly different FLs may pose a challenge to compare.Sun just outside the corner of the frame right?
-Tim
vdo1 wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
bjornthun wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
So you think the Bokeh is worse on the CV?https://phillipreeve.net/blog/voigtlander-110mm-f2-5-apo-review/
Maybe Tim could have a look these days at the Sigma's flare / veil with the sun just outside the frame. The CV 110 can certainly look very "vintage" in such situations.
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/voigtlander-110mm-f2-5-apo-review/
No comparison or pics (beyond maybe one example) needed, just your assessment that the subject still has suficent contrast and color instead of being obliterated by a colorful veil. Does it look more like a vintage Carl Zeiss Jena, or more like a modern lens like the new Sigma 85mm? Big thanks!
Nov 02, 2020 at 12:32 PM
p.8 #3In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
tsdevine wrote:
Will try to pull this off, but it may not be until the weekend. Working an 8 to 5 job and now that the clocks have changed, I don't really get any "daylight" shooting during the week. I doubt I could pull the test off in the morning.
-Tim
Sun just outside the corner of the frame right?
-Tim
I like multi purpose lenses which is why I asked about sunstars. Yes I like the "cheap filter" effect as well. Always rather have the ability to create a look than not have that ability. I'm intrigued with the Sigma regardless (mostly because AF is useful in those other areas) as a macro (which I don't do alot of), landscape, Portrait, and even street lens. I had the CV110 (and used it for all 4 of those things) and never noticed any issues in Bokeh but then that's a personal taste thing. I would be interested if you could point to an example of this on the 110 thread because I have seen a heck of alot of nice images there and don't remember a "bokeh" being particularly distracting. I'm sure there is one, I am just having trouble I guess visualizing what your talking about.There are some good examples in the review here:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/voigtlander-110mm-f2-5-apo-review/
Maybe Tim could have a look these days at the Sigma's flare / veil with the sun just outside the frame. The CV 110 can certainly look very "vintage" in such situations.Portrait distance, no hood, any aperture between 2.8 to 5.6, sun outside the frame. Something similar to the horse pic here:
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/voigtlander-110mm-f2-5-apo-review/
No comparison or pics (beyond maybe one example) needed, just your assessment that the subject still has suficent contrast and color instead of being obliterated by a colorful veil. Does it look more like a vintage Carl Zeiss Jena, or more like a modern lens like the new Sigma 85mm? Big thanks!
Don't worry, there's no urgency, I'm fine with any outcome of the test, I decided to order one regardless of the exact flare performance.
Will try to pull this off, but it may not be until the weekend. Working an 8 to 5 job and now that the clocks have changed, I don't really get any "daylight" shooting during the week. I doubt I could pull the test off in the morning.
-Tim
vdo1 wrote
tsdevine wrote
So the sun is out, but I’m working at the moment. I’ve never actually done this type of test before. Can somebody give me a primer? Hood on or off? Particular apertures to test? You want a comparison to the CV or just a straight test of the Sigma? The slightly different FLs may pose a challenge to compare.Sun just outside the corner of the frame right?
-Tim
vdo1 wrote
nhsonyshooter wrote
bjornthun wrote
In the macro range, yes. OOF highlights get a polygonal shape, which isn’t very attractive. I don’t especially care for sunstars, but for those who do sunstars are most relevant in landscape images. There are examples to illustrate this in the thread dedicated to this lens.https://phillipreeve.net/blog/voigtlander-110mm-f2-5-apo-review/
Maybe Tim could have a look these days at the Sigma's flare / veil with the sun just outside the frame. The CV 110 can certainly look very "vintage" in such situations.
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/voigtlander-110mm-f2-5-apo-review/
No comparison or pics (beyond maybe one example) needed, just your assessment that the subject still has suficent contrast and color instead of being obliterated by a colorful veil. Does it look more like a vintage Carl Zeiss Jena, or more like a modern lens like the new Sigma 85mm? Big thanks!
Don't worry, there's no urgency, I'm fine with any outcome of the test, I decided to order one regardless of the exact flare performance.
Nov 02, 2020 at 12:38 PM
p.8 #4In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Well just got word mine was delivered early! Hope to get out and shoot it tomorrow at an indoor greenhouse for some floral work along with misc shots to evaluate and we are supposed to get sun! Now that is luck
Karl
Karl
Nov 02, 2020 at 01:22 PM
p.8 #5In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
I ordered one too, it will be here Wednesday.
The optics look first rate. Right up there with my other candidate the CV 110mm.
Primarily, I will use it mostly on a tripod in studio setting for product, portrait, and macro work, so the lack of OS will not be an issue for me.
The slower focus speed is common in macro lenses and like the CV I will primarily shoot manual anyway.
Price seem very reasonable for what they say the lens is optically. Payboo, no tax, free shipping.
Let's hope the lens lives up to the reviews.
The optics look first rate. Right up there with my other candidate the CV 110mm.
Primarily, I will use it mostly on a tripod in studio setting for product, portrait, and macro work, so the lack of OS will not be an issue for me.
The slower focus speed is common in macro lenses and like the CV I will primarily shoot manual anyway.
Price seem very reasonable for what they say the lens is optically. Payboo, no tax, free shipping.
Let's hope the lens lives up to the reviews.
Nov 02, 2020 at 02:28 PM
p.8 #6In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Cameralabs posted their review, FWIW.
https://www.cameralabs.com/sigma-105mm-f2-8-dg-dn-macro-art-review/
-Tim
Nov 02, 2020 at 06:26 PM
p.8 #7In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
tsdevine wrote:
Cameralabs posted their review, FWIW.
https://www.cameralabs.com/sigma-105mm-f2-8-dg-dn-macro-art-review/
-Tim
I'm going to see if my Sony 1.4xTC works on this lens later tonight when I get home. The above review said it appears it would fit but
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Karl
Cameralabs posted their review, FWIW.
https://www.cameralabs.com/sigma-105mm-f2-8-dg-dn-macro-art-review/
-Tim
I'm going to see if my Sony 1.4xTC works on this lens later tonight when I get home. The above review said it appears it would fit but
?Karl
Nov 02, 2020 at 07:27 PM
p.8 #8In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
I have the 1.4x TC....but I'm not sure I'm that brave. I guess I could see if the rear element moves and if so measure it at the closest it gets to the mount.
-Tim
Nov 02, 2020 at 07:28 PM
p.8 #9In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
tsdevine wrote:
I have the 1.4x TC....but I'm not sure I'm that brave. I guess I could see if the rear element moves and if so measure it at the closest it gets to the mount.
-Tim
Well someone has to find out
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I have the 1.4x TC....but I'm not sure I'm that brave. I guess I could see if the rear element moves and if so measure it at the closest it gets to the mount.
-Tim
Well someone has to find out
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p.8 #10In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Actually from the Sigma video...I'm pretty sure the rear element doesn't move.
But quoting a favorite movie of mine.... "Asps! Very dangerous. You go first."
Karl Witt wrote:
tsdevine wrote
I have the 1.4x TC....but I'm not sure I'm that brave. I guess I could see if the rear element moves and if so measure it at the closest it gets to the mount.-Tim
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p.8 #11In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
tsdevine wrote:
Cameralabs posted their review, FWIW.
https://www.cameralabs.com/sigma-105mm-f2-8-dg-dn-macro-art-review/
-Tim
Interesting tidbit for me is that the lens has a profile in the firmware, which means that C1 can use it right away.
Cameralabs posted their review, FWIW.
https://www.cameralabs.com/sigma-105mm-f2-8-dg-dn-macro-art-review/
-Tim
Interesting tidbit for me is that the lens has a profile in the firmware, which means that C1 can use it right away.
Nov 02, 2020 at 07:51 PM
p.8 #12In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
It mounts, with no apparent ill effects. But it doesn't AF...at all.
Karl Witt wrote:
tsdevine wrote
I have the 1.4x TC....but I'm not sure I'm that brave. I guess I could see if the rear element moves and if so measure it at the closest it gets to the mount.-Tim
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p.8 #13In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
tsdevine wrote:
It mounts, with no apparent ill effects. But it doesn't AF...at all.
-TimWell someone has to find out ...............
Same I just learned on my A7rIII😞 darn!
It mounts, with no apparent ill effects. But it doesn't AF...at all.
Karl Witt wrote
tsdevine wrote
I have the 1.4x TC....but I'm not sure I'm that brave. I guess I could see if the rear element moves and if so measure it at the closest it gets to the mount.-Tim
...............Same I just learned on my A7rIII😞 darn!
Nov 02, 2020 at 09:26 PM
p.8 #14In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Ok, but can you manual focus it? and if so, what is the image quality impact at this 147mm focal length? Thanks Tim.
Nov 03, 2020 at 05:42 AM
p.8 #15In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
I didn't try, and I'm not sure I want to push my luck. Given that it's focus by wire, I don't believe MF will work either.
Petegh wrote:
Ok, but can you manual focus it? and if so, what is the image quality impact at this 147mm focal length? Thanks Tim.
Nov 03, 2020 at 06:15 AM
p.8 #17In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
tsdevine wrote:
I didn't try, and I'm not sure I want to push my luck. Given that it's focus by wire, I don't believe MF will work either.
I'd be surprised if it even allowed the shutter to activate. TCs are becoming the last stand of proprietary usage.
I didn't try, and I'm not sure I want to push my luck. Given that it's focus by wire, I don't believe MF will work either.
Petegh wrote
Ok, but can you manual focus it? and if so, what is the image quality impact at this 147mm focal length? Thanks Tim.I'd be surprised if it even allowed the shutter to activate. TCs are becoming the last stand of proprietary usage.
Nov 04, 2020 at 04:51 PM
p.8 #18In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Here is what I know so far........I really like the lens
NO it does not work at all in AF or MF on A7rIII or A9 with Sony 1.4x TC though the TC fits perfectly without interference just no electrical communications being transferred.
I am posting random around the kitchen images and a few outside all handheld or braced so yes the IBIS seems to work pretty well. Also I think the MF is pretty darn nice though some were MF here and some were AF here.
All images with standard LR settings which is 40 on sharpening. To me BG rendering is very favorable. I will say AF is slow, this lens isn't at all like the Sony 90 in focus speed.
Comments and questions welcomed, I may know the answer and I may not
Oh, and images were taken before the bottle of Jim Beam was opened
Karl
this one is cropped up to close to 100%
dark corner with tiny Christmas lights behind bowl, focus on pepper flakes!
Focus on far right edge of knife where vertical mark is, detail is excellent in that area
focus on front end of garlic clove, yes I was cooking up Mex Chicken Corn Chowder LOL
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NO it does not work at all in AF or MF on A7rIII or A9 with Sony 1.4x TC though the TC fits perfectly without interference just no electrical communications being transferred.
I am posting random around the kitchen
images and a few outside all handheld or braced so yes the IBIS seems to work pretty well. Also I think the MF is pretty darn nice though some were MF here and some were AF here. All images with standard LR settings which is 40 on sharpening. To me BG rendering is very favorable. I will say AF is slow, this lens isn't at all like the Sony 90 in focus speed.
Comments and questions welcomed, I may know the answer and I may not
Oh, and images were taken before the bottle of Jim Beam was openedKarl
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Nov 04, 2020 at 08:32 PM
p.8 #19In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
Karl, thanks for those images. How do you like it versus the sony 90 if you had a chance to use both?
I'm personally looking to pick this up or the sony in the very very near future.
I'm personally looking to pick this up or the sony in the very very near future.
Nov 04, 2020 at 09:53 PM
p.8 #20In Stock: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
vnmx wrote:
Karl, thanks for those images. How do you like it versus the sony 90 if you had a chance to use both?
I'm personally looking to pick this up or the sony in the very very near future.
If you were working with something other than macro and movement the Sony is the clear winner for AF speed and silent AF. The Sigma does make some very slight noise. Also hand held with the OSS on the 90 you certainly gain some potential for low light shots at slower speeds. There is a little more heft in the weight of the Sony, there is more overall length in the Sigma, if size matters
Karl
Karl, thanks for those images. How do you like it versus the sony 90 if you had a chance to use both?
I'm personally looking to pick this up or the sony in the very very near future.
If you were working with something other than macro and movement the Sony is the clear winner for AF speed and silent AF. The Sigma does make some very slight noise. Also hand held with the OSS on the 90 you certainly gain some potential for low light shots at slower speeds. There is a little more heft in the weight of the Sony, there is more overall length in the Sigma, if size matters
Karl
Nov 05, 2020 at 07:33 AM