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Pre-order: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art ($799)
The new Sigma 105mm f/2.8 DG DN Macro Art Lens E-mount is a short-telephoto prime optimized for macro use. With a minimum focusing distance of 11.6", and a 5.5" working distance, this lens offers a life-size, 1:1 reproduction ratio for accurate rendering of close-up subjects. Its optical design incorporates one SLD element, which also helps to realize high clarity and color accuracy by suppressing various aberrations and color fringing. A Super Multi-Layer Coating has also been applied, which controls flare and ghosting for greater contrast.

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Sigma 105mm F/2.8 DG DN Macro Art Specs
  1. Lens construction 17 elements in 12 groups
  2. Angle of view (35mm) 23.3
  3. Number of diaphragm blades 9 (Rounded diaphragm)
  4. Minimum aperture F22
  5. Minimum focusing distance 29.5cm / 11.6in.
  6. Maximum magnification ratio 1:1
  7. Filter size φ62mm
  8. Dimensions (diameter x length) φ74mm 135.6mm / φ2.9in. 5.3in.
  9. Weight 710g / 25.0oz.
  10. Edition number※ A020
  11. Accessories Case, hood (LH653-01) included.





























Sep 30, 2020 at 11:13 AM
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It's pretty incredible how much price to performance we're getting in this package. Back in the real early 2010s, I picked up a good condition 100 2.8 C/Y Macro for... $700. Due to inflation, it's probably more than what you'd pay for this even.

Sure, that lens will probably still be kicking when one of the electronic wonders of this lens shorts out, but this Sigma is superior in every other way. Even for focus stacking, as the heavy extendable barrel could move if you had it at the wrong angle without even touching it.



Sep 30, 2020 at 11:24 AM
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I wonder if it will affect the used price for the FE 90/2.8. It currently sells for about $850 at the Buy and Sell board.


Sep 30, 2020 at 11:29 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I wonder if it will affect the used price for the FE 90/2.8. It currently sells for about $850 at the Buy and Sell board.


If the Dustin Abbot comparison reflects how it compares to the FE 90mm, then it should affect pricing for the 90mm a LOT imo. Of course, we need to wait and see since I don't know how good the copy of the 90mm that Dustin used, is.



Sep 30, 2020 at 11:50 AM
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JVan_02 wrote:
It's pretty incredible how much price to performance we're getting in this package. Back in the real early 2010s, I picked up a good condition 100 2.8 C/Y Macro for... $700. Due to inflation, it's probably more than what you'd pay for this even.

Sure, that lens will probably still be kicking when one of the electronic wonders of this lens shorts out, but this Sigma is superior in every other way. Even for focus stacking, as the heavy extendable barrel could move if you had it at the wrong angle without even touching it.


Yeah, looking at Dustin Abbott's review, it's clear this lens is absolutely stellar optically. Looks to be a little sharper and have better CA control compared to the already absolutely outstanding FE 90 Macro. I like the usability features of the 90 Macro, so I won't be switching, but if I didn't already own that lens, I'd probably go for the Sigma. It looks to be just fantastic at a reasonable price. Over the last 5 years or so, Sigma has really cemented their position as one of the top tier lens makers.



Sep 30, 2020 at 11:53 AM
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This is good news. Progress. The old Sigma DSLR telephoto macros needed to be replaced with fully modernised and polished "Art" models sooner or later.

It wasn't urgent, because those DSLR macros were pretty good. They came just before the Art lenses, at a time when Sigma was starting to very noticeably chase a higher-quality market segment than it had previously been reputed to.

But they were DSLR lenses, and not always quite as polished and perfect as the Art lineup lenses Sigma released a few years later. They needed "doing", sooner or later, in mirrorless with all the trimmings: Polished autofocus performance, perfected image quality (from an already good starting-point)... build quality and body styling in line with the Art series. Modern mounts.

So I consider this new 105mm macro to be good progress.

Personally, however, I would find a new 150mm or 180mm macro more interesting. The old DSLR macros, of 150 and 180mm, were good: The working distance they enable has its uses... And they had a tripod collar for easy rotation and better-balanced tripod mounting.

I wonder whether they will, with time, go further, and replace one or the other? 150 or 180, I wouldn't mind which. 105mm is I guess an easier "play it safe" option to start out with - cheaper, lighter, probably more mass-market.

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Here's a niche, seldom-thought-about, but relevant role for a lens like this new macro: it can be used, on old second-generation Sony bodies like the A7Rii (or like the a6000 and some other of the older 6000 lineup), with the installable Openmemories "focus bracket" app...

https://sony-pmca.appspot.com/apps
https://github.com/obs1dium/FocusBracket



The utility of such an app was shown recently, by contrast: DPReview posted an article about how you can buy some complicated, specialised tripod mounting hardware to turn your camera/lens rig into a focus-stacking macro photography rig.

https://www.dpreview.com/articles/0652566916/how-to-shoot-better-macro-photos-using-a-slider-and-focus-stacking

The rig would gradually move the camera closer, in definable increments, to shoot a macro subject at different points of focus. Later (with PC software) these different images, with different points of greatest sharpness, could be merged into one image of high, averaged-out sharpness, front-to-back, better than what could be obtained from any single image at any (workable) focal ratio.

Focus bracketing / stacking is a fine principle but (maybe it's just me?) I find the idea of buying special mounting hardware to do it... a rather inefficient bodge, in comparison to having software control the lens' focus point without the camera having to move or be pushed around. Not just because, ideally, you change the focus of the lens in controlled conditions by refocusing the lens, not by moving it (the framing and perspective gets messed with if you move the actual camera/lens to different distances - like a weird kind of physical "focus breathing")... But because it involves fewer single-use specialist hardware widgets in favour of the flexible, free, computational abilities of a modern camera.

A few months ago I was interested in dabbling in, and learning more about, macro photography (like everyone, in lockdown!). I spotted an unmissable low price on a used, old, 150mm f/2.8 Sigma macro lens.

I used it for shooting various things, often bugs and stuff out in the real world where you're just taking single shots, because you can't mess about with a tripod and/or your subject is going to move away any moment now. Fine - it worked nicely enough for all that. Image quality was very good. Autofocus was terrible, but functioned, ultra-slowly but at least basically. For the price, I was more than satisfied.

But to my disappointment, when I attempted to use it with the Focus Bracket app, I discovered it couldn't work. The old 150mm Sigma macro didn't have a distance encoder built into it, or if it did, it wasn't able to communicate distance information to the camera through the MC-11 adapter (I suspect mainly the former - Sigma Art lenses I've used through the MC-11 do communicate distance info). So the Focus Bracket app, which relies on the camera taking controlled, defined focus steps between chosen focus distances, couldn't work.

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Sooner or later, when I find that I'm unexpectedly flush with cash, if there's a good natively-mirrorless macro lens out there with all the good characteristics of this old 150mm Sigma I've grown fond of (tripod collar, long working distance, quality, etc)... I may buy that new native macro and revisit the Focus Bracket functions of the free app.

I suspect, if/when I do, that this particular new 105mm macro won't be the thing for me - for the sake of tripod collar/working distance, and because I'm in no hurry...

...and likewise, the MF Laowa macros are ruled out for me (MF = no focus stacking app), and the Sony 90mm is ruled out (tripod collar, working distance, cost given that I'm in no hurry)... anyway, yeah. I'll come back to the topic one day. Eventually. But for anyone who needs a great autofocus macro lens, very soon, and for less money than the Sony, and yet with the known-superb quality levels of a Sigma Art lens, this 105 might well be "it".

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Sep 30, 2020 at 11:55 AM
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Sep 30, 2020 at 12:03 PM
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I owned the Sigma 70mm Macro and while it was amazing optically, it was hard to accurately manually focus when needed because the focus ring was not well dampened. I couldn't complain about the images though. I am sure this lens will be wonderful.


Sep 30, 2020 at 02:42 PM
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I suspect this will end up in my bag eventually.

I still have my Canon 100mm L macro. Absolutely loved that lens in my Canon days for it's versatility, I've always preferred 100mm over 85mm so getting the Sony macro was a tough sell for me. Given the focal length and price point this may finally get me to update.



Sep 30, 2020 at 03:34 PM
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It looks like a stellar macro lens but we already have so many great choices for the E-mount.

The question is: Why did Sigma take so long to start developing E-mount lenses? I think this would fly off the shelves 3 years ago as an alternative to Sony's FE 90/2.8 macro.

Perhaps they now realize that Canon/Nikon would not make it easy for them develop lenses for their new mounts so they had no choice to finally commit to Sony's E-mount. I'm glad Sigma had this change of heart as their DG DN lenses are well priced, well built and fantastic optically.



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Fred Miranda wrote:
It looks like a stellar macro lens but we already have so many great choices for the E-mount.

The question is: Why did Sigma take so long to start developing E-mount lenses? I think this would fly off the shelves 3 years ago as an alternative to Sony's FE 90/2.8 macro.

Perhaps they now realize that Canon/Nikon would not make it easy for them develop lenses for their new mounts so they had no choice to finally commit to Sony's E-mount. I'm glad Sigma had this change of heart as their DG DN lenses are well priced, well built and
...Show more

I don't think we would've seen this kind of output from them if it weren't for their L-mount commitments. The E-mount's just a way for them to actually make money from the lenses while the L-mount tries to gain ground in the market.



Sep 30, 2020 at 04:27 PM
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There are so many great macro lenses from 90-105 that can be had for half the price or less with better manual focus and the same five-axis IBIS, I don't see anything all that special here.


Sep 30, 2020 at 04:36 PM
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I think the answer is that while it might have been a popular lens, the user base in E mount was not there 3 years ago like it is today. Sigma is small, they always talk about having limited resources for development. So back then it makes more sense to enter the market with big lenses that are already developed for DSLR mounts, basically adding a built-in adapter. A few years later, now Sigma can develop their own L mount system alongside a mount with a larger market. Easier to achieve the production volumes they need to reach profitability.


Sep 30, 2020 at 04:37 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
It looks like a stellar macro lens but we already have so many great choices for the E-mount.
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Not that many in the AF flavour:

Sony 50mm
Sigma 70mm
Sony 90
Sigma 105

and the AF on the first two is a joke by today's standards.



Sep 30, 2020 at 04:44 PM
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I pre ordered, even though I have the CV 110. There are times where I'd like to do macro "improperly" aka more run and gun using AF-C, like Longwood Gardens with my family. (I wish Sony would implement trap focus...)

It was tough to justify the FE 90 given the price, at least for the use case above.

I'm curious to see how they compare to each other, I guess I will find out.

-Tim



Sep 30, 2020 at 04:56 PM
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vdo1 wrote:
Not that many in the AF flavour:

Sony 50mm
Sigma 70mm
Sony 90
Sigma 105

and the AF on the first two is a joke by today's standards.


Forgetting this 100/2.8 E-mount lens with 1:1 macro and AF for only $499?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1473390-REG/tokina_frn_afm100fxse_firin_100mm_f_2_8_fe.html

Don't get me wrong, I am glad there are more choices and I'm thrilled Sigma is releasing great lenses for the E-mount. Better late than never.



Sep 30, 2020 at 04:57 PM
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5 axis stabilization is associated with only a few lenses (others than the new Sigma)- the Sony FE 90mm, CV 110/2.5 and perhaps the Canon 100 with an adapter. All the rest, only 3 axis stabilization.

freaklikeme wrote:
There are so many great macro lenses from 90-105 that can be had for half the price or less with better manual focus and the same five-axis IBIS, I don't see anything all that special here.


Edit: the Tokina FE 100/2.8



Sep 30, 2020 at 05:00 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Forgetting this 100/2.8 E-mount lens with 1:1 macro and AF for only $499?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1473390-REG/tokina_frn_afm100fxse_firin_100mm_f_2_8_fe.html


Guilty as charged. I forgot about it, most likely after reading somewhere about AF issues and the CA corrections not being better than the Sony. So it didn't bring anything on the table for me compared to the Sony 90.

BTW I still have the vintage mf Tokina ATX 90mm - mostly for nostalgia reasons



Sep 30, 2020 at 05:04 PM
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vdo1 wrote:
Guilty as charged. I forgot about it, most likely after reading somewhere about AF issues and the CA corrections not being better than the Sony. So it didn't bring anything on the table for me compared to the Sony 90.

BTW I still have the vintage mf Tokina ATX 90mm - mostly for nostalgia reasons


I'm surprised Samyang has not released a tele 1:1 macro with AF yet.



Sep 30, 2020 at 05:06 PM
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tsdevine wrote:
I pre ordered, even though I have the CV 110. There are times where I'd like to do macro "improperly" aka more run and gun using AF-C, like Longwood Gardens with my family. (I wish Sony would implement trap focus...)

It was tough to justify the FE 90 given the price, at least for the use case above.

I'm curious to see how they compare to each other, I guess I will find out.

-Tim


Sounds like a good choice, Tim.

I will probably stick with the Sony for AF, but only because I like being able to set magnification manually, and because selling and buying is a hassle. The Sigma seems to have fixed the only visible issue with the 90 (mild LoCA) and offer even higher res and contrast along with great macro bokeh (a respect in which the CV, which Ive also got, is good rather than great).

Relatedly, how great was the presentations by Yamaki? Who else tells you about their sales figures (selectively of course) and the downsides of both their older model and the new one, and at the same time delivering a sales pitch that could teach most people a ton of stuff about optics and lens design. Damn I want to buy more Sigma stuff just because of him and their corporate culture...



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