p.9 #1 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
chez wrote:
I had no problems traveling with an A7R / A6000. Carrying a couple spare batteries for the day was really a non issue. It was rare I'd need to change out a battery but I carried a couple spares just in case. Heck, I always carried spare batteries when shooting DSLRs...you never know.
Yes shooting film you had to keep track of how much film remained and quite often I'd insert a new roll before using up the roll in the camera so I wouldn't be caught needing to change film when some action started.
The RX1 battery is basically half an FW50 (its 1240mAh and 3.6V for 4.5Watt-hours , vs 7.5 Watt Hours for an FW50).
p.9 #2 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
chez wrote:
I had no problems traveling with an A7R / A6000. Carrying a couple spare batteries for the day was really a non issue. It was rare I'd need to change out a battery but I carried a couple spares just in case. Heck, I always carried spare batteries when shooting DSLRs...you never know.
Yes shooting film you had to keep track of how much film remained and quite often I'd insert a new roll before using up the roll in the camera so I wouldn't be caught needing to change film when some action started.
I don’t have issues with that battery either—the RX1 is considerably weaker though.
p.9 #3 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
freaklikeme wrote:
I think you mean fixed EVF and no pop-up flash. Which is great, if true, but it's starting to feel like someone's just messing with Andrea.
p.9 #5 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
realVivek wrote:
The compact battery makes the RX1/Rx1R II a pleasurable experience. Hope that does not get effed up if we ever see another iteration of the RX1.
As a compromise Sony should use the existing NPFW50 battery in a future RX1 body. Perhaps they only thing that would change is the need for a small grip to accommodate the battery. Not a bad thing in my opinion.
They could borrow the A7R4's 61MP sensor and offer 50mm and 75mm crop modes. I have my doubts a new RX1 camera will be ever developed but I hope it happens.
p.9 #10 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
I will never understand all this concern about batteries. It's fantastic how small the Rx1rii is and I find it perfect for travel; I just carry three batteries and at the size they are you hardly notice it. In fact if there is a problem it is that they are so small you have to make sure not to lose them. I don't think I've ever run through 3 batteries in a day. Anybody remember carrying film & changing that out every 36 shots (or 10, in the case of medium format)?
p.9 #11 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
photonoclast wrote:
I will never understand all this concern about batteries. It's fantastic how small the Rx1rii is and I find it perfect for travel; I just carry three batteries and at the size they are you hardly notice it. In fact if there is a problem it is that they are so small you have to make sure not to lose them. I don't think I've ever run through 3 batteries in a day. Anybody remember carrying film & changing that out every 36 shots (or 10, in the case of medium format)?
I don't think anyone is saying it's unusable. It's just not ideal compared to other cameras today. I never thought it was bad either, except when shooting under cold conditions.
p.9 #12 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
Back when I shot Mamiya 7, which had a tiny battery that lasted for 5 years, I had that battery extender gizmo that you would put in your pocket to keep the battery warm while you shot. Only used it once or twice when I shot a little when it was 20 below
p.9 #14 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
photonoclast wrote:
I will never understand all this concern about batteries. It's fantastic how small the Rx1rii is and I find it perfect for travel; I just carry three batteries and at the size they are you hardly notice it. In fact if there is a problem it is that they are so small you have to make sure not to lose them. I don't think I've ever run through 3 batteries in a day. Anybody remember carrying film & changing that out every 36 shots (or 10, in the case of medium format)?
Do you ever shoot in very cold temperatures or so multi day stuff where you can’t charge?
I think people who only need the batteries to last a day can get around it by bringing several, and they are really small which is great.
If you do anything even remotely demanding they are really annoying.
p.9 #16 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
Probably true. I've never used the Rx1rii in really environmentally demanding situations. If life looked likely to get rough, out came the A7iii (and now the A9), and if life looks like it might get dangerous, then its my Nikon d7000 beater worth about $50 all the way
p.9 #18 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Do you ever shoot in very cold temperatures or so multi day stuff where you can’t charge?
I think people who only need the batteries to last a day can get around it by bringing several, and they are really small which is great.
If you do anything even remotely demanding they are really annoying.
Putting a bigger battery into the camera all of a sudden makes it a bigger camera which goes against a nice compact travel camera. If I was going out on a venture away from electricity or in demanding cold weather...I don't think I'd bring the RX1 type of camera with me.
p.9 #19 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
photonoclast wrote:
Probably true. I've never used the Rx1rii in really environmentally demanding situations. If life looked likely to get rough, out came the A7iii (and now the A9), and if life looks like it might get dangerous, then its my Nikon d7000 beater worth about $50 all the way
p.9 #20 · Pre-order: Sony A7C Compact Full Frame ($1,798)
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Can you please tell me a full frame camera with worst battery life? Don’t worry—I understand the trade-off with size, and when it came out. But have you ever used the RX1 while being outside for several hours when it is below freezing? What is the longest you have use the RX1 when you did not have access to charge? Have you ever tried astro with it?
Just because you can work around it, doesn’t mean it’s not horrible. DPreview calls the battery “atrocious” on the RX1r2 Summary review. Pretty much any review you read, will ding the battery life.
I have also owned an RX1 series camera since they came out, and continue to shoot and love them....Show more →
Your missing the forest for the trees friend.
Can you please tell me of an auto-focusing full frame camera produced in 2012 that matches the RX1 for size and weight?
Your problem is that you have no sense of the context.
The RX1 is a 2012 (eight years old this summer) camera.
In the tech world it is considered a "classic" camera. The fact that Sony continues to sell it doesn't change that fact.
Sony's goal in producing the camera was not to show how long a battery could last.
It was never marketed as an "all weather/ all temperature" camera nor was it marketed as "great for astro".
It was presented as a tour-de-force in the realm of miniaturization.
Those of us with STEM educations understand that anything that is "pushes the envelope" in one direction will almost invariably be compromised in other areas.
(only paradigm shifts in technology can reduce those compromises)
The RX1 is not good or bad. It just "is".
Up to the buyer to determine whether or not it meets your needs and desires.
Sounds like you had unrealistic expectations for this particular piece of equipment.
As an aside - I have always wanted, but will never purchase a Ricoh GR.
Why? Because it has no EVF and I can't use a camera without an EVF.
Imagine my buying one in spite of that fact and then coming on here and complaining that it "sucks" because I struggle to compose with it.
The camera would not be flawed; the ding dong struggling with the LCD is flawed.
