p.2 #1 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
mikeinctown wrote:
Personally I think it is way overblown. The amount of data alone that 8k or even 4k 120 produces means people will only be recording a few minutes at a time. Then there is the massive amount of processing power and memory needed for the desktop or laptop to actually use and process the videos. It just seems people are complaining about something that they aren't going to utilize a whole lot of anyway, and if they are, then buy something more suited to the task.
p.2 #2 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
After reading what Canon recommends
How can you reduce heat buildup in the EOS R5?
Between recordings, it is recommended to turn off the camera and position the camera out of direct sunlight. You can also use an external fan to dissipate heat.
I found Canon's next product announcement which will be available in both L and non L versions.
p.2 #5 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
mikeinctown wrote:
Personally I think it is way overblown. The amount of data alone that 8k or even 4k 120 produces means people will only be recording a few minutes at a time. Then there is the massive amount of processing power and memory needed for the desktop or laptop to actually use and process the videos. It just seems people are complaining about something that they aren't going to utilize a whole lot of anyway, and if they are, then buy something more suited to the task.
It wouldn't be a Canon if people weren't crapping all over a new camera before even using it.
p.2 #6 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
I want one! No, not for my R5 but for me when I am out shooting on a hot and sticky day! But, hey ... I don't mind sharing the fan with my R5, and I will have the L version please.
burningheart wrote:
After reading what Canon recommends
How can you reduce heat buildup in the EOS R5?
Between recordings, it is recommended to turn off the camera and position the camera out of direct sunlight. You can also use an external fan to dissipate heat.
I found Canon's next product announcement which will be available in both L and non L versions.
p.2 #7 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
RoamingScott wrote:
There showing one's backside, and then there's yelling out of it. This is the latter. iOS and iPad Pros in particular are premier editors of high resolution RAW photo and video with their highly optimized CPU/GPU pipeline and monster data throughput.
iPad Pro has removed the need for the $5000 PC, but hey, go build or buy one if you're still stuck in the stone age of editing.
But you talk from your backside so well. BTW I was speaking of Apple PCs.
p.2 #11 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
rscheffler wrote:
So it's really just the high speed and oversampling modes that have heat related time restrictions. With some thought and planning, it should be doable.
I'm coming to this realization. I need to replace my ancient 9-y-o Mac laptop. I don't like the 13" options and the 16 is too large for my preference. It really just leaves the iPad Pros. Based on some performance comparisons I've read, they outperform the 13" in some metrics while being the size and weight I prefer.
The biggest current drawback of the iPads currently, IMO, is the lack of equally functional apps compared to standard 'desktop' photo editing software, but it seems to be improving....Show more →
Remember that Apple is moving all the computers to custom ARM silicone over the next two years and that is what runs the iPad/iPhones already. The laptop/desktop ARM processors and graphics should run laps around Intel....I'd hold off and see what they release later this year...supposed to be 13" MacBook Pro and 13" Air first.
p.2 #13 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
mikeinctown wrote:
It just seems people are complaining about something that they aren't going to utilize a whole lot of anyway, and if they are, then buy something more suited to the task.
I suspect part of it is people not understanding that the high framerates are for slow-motion, rather than some step-uo in quality. It's analagous to that segment of "audiophiles" who think they need 128kHz files, when no human needs more than 48kHz.
(Caveat: the oversampling 4K mode, which runs for half an hour, *is* a step-up in quality.)
And another part is the fact that Youtubers are necessarily interested in video production and their comments are skewed towards that. If instead Instagram had become the dominant medium for product reviews, we'd be hearing all about the lack of a SIM card slot and apps. Everyone needs to evaluate the camera for their *own* usage.
p.2 #14 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
mikeinctown wrote:
It just seems people are complaining about something that they aren't going to utilize a whole lot of anyway, and if they are, then buy something more suited to the task.
melcat wrote:
I suspect part of it is people not understanding that the high framerates are for slow-motion, rather than some step-uo in quality. It's analagous to that segment of "audiophiles" who think they need 128kHz files, when no human needs more than 48kHz.
(Caveat: the oversampling 4K mode, which runs for half an hour, *is* a step-up in quality.)
And another part is the fact that Youtubers are necessarily interested in video production and their comments are skewed towards that. If instead Instagram had become the dominant medium for product reviews, we'd be hearing all about the lack of a SIM card slot and apps. Everyone needs to evaluate the camera for their *own* usage. ...Show more →
But who needs to look at people on the U-Tube in 8K? Many of them have a face for radio anyway.
p.2 #15 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
mikeinctown wrote:
Personally I think it is way overblown. The amount of data alone that 8k or even 4k 120 produces means people will only be recording a few minutes at a time. Then there is the massive amount of processing power and memory needed for the desktop or laptop to actually use and process the videos. It just seems people are complaining about something that they aren't going to utilize a whole lot of anyway, and if they are, then buy something more suited to the task.
Nope.... not an issue.
You make proxies when you edit.
I am on davinci resolve.... easy to do this.
The size would show up on the render.
People who want 4K@120 already know what to expect.
And yes.... I run off m2 ssd for my scratch space.
The only camera that comes close to size with quality video codec at 6K in the black magic pocket CC 6K.
And this is not at 120 FPS.
And yes, shooter understand how to use, store said video clips.
People whine about things they don’t know much about.
p.2 #17 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
artsupreme wrote:
Canon missed an opportunity.....they should have sold an R5 accessory grip that contains heat sinks and cooling fans
They could have built a fan and vent into the bottom of the body, then designed a battery grip that disables it and blocks off the vent for proper weather sealing. That way you please the still photographers who need to go all day long, AND the video shooters with a cooling system for the camera. A decent compromise.
p.2 #19 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
Funny thing is that the people who complain about the possible overheating issue are the same ones that would complain about the size of the camera if Canon had even made it the size of a 5D4. They would complain about why a mirrorless camera is so large or so heavy.
p.2 #20 · Canon issued a statment regarding the overheating of the R5
Looking at pictures of the Canon C200, I could find 5 separate air vents on different sides of the camera. I don't think with one vent in the bottom of the camera you could get air circulating through the camera to effectively cool it. For most users who are likely to mainly use the R5 for still photography, increasing the size and weight of the camera and reducing the weather sealing would likely be negatives.
Canon (and Sony) want to sell their cinema and broadcast equipment to those who need longer video recording capabilities and those cameras don't necessarily even need as much cooling as the sensor has just the photosites needed for the video resolutions that the camera supports, and not an excessively high resolution which is mainly motivated by still photography. These cameras also have appropriate controls for video recording rather than a compromise between the needs of still and videographers. However, they are larger and more expensive.
I wonder if Canon could circumvent the heating-related recording limitations of the R5 if the users plug in an external monitor - not recording internally should reduce heat build-up inside the main camera.
