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 p.20 #15 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6 | |
So, since the latest releases from Canon have shown me that they are truly committed to this system, I picked up an EOS RP on the cheap from Greentoe with the slow 24-105, and found a great price on a used RF 35mm f/1.8. Mainly to be able to review RF gear. The camera came in today. While the sensor and the glass I have for it is nowhere near as good as my Sony kit optically and image quality wise, there are a number of things that Canon is doing very right on the RF bodies that I wish Sony would actually get right. With just about an hour or so of shooting with the RP, these are the things that Canon is definitely doing better than Sony.
1) The grip. The RP is a small camera, with roughly the same overall footprint as my A7R IV, but shorter and lighter...and yet the grip is easily as comfortable around, and more comfortable with respect to the lens mount, as it gives your fingers more room to breathe. The R (and presumably the R5 and R6) are even better (from my time testing the R when it came out). We're four full body styles into the A7 series and Sony still hasn't figured out that the lens mount shouldn't be that close to the grip.
2) Wireless connectivity. Sony's WiFi for transferring images and remote shooting has been an exercise in how much I can put up with...it takes forever to connect, often requires reconnecting two or three times, is a pain in the rear to set up initially, and remote shooting is crippled and also a pain to get started.
On the RP, I had the camera connected to my phone within 30 seconds on initial setup, and when reconnecting, it's within a few seconds of opening the app to being able to do what I wish with the camera remotely. I transferred a bunch of image, then when that was complete, without touching anything on the camera, I pressed one button in the Canon Camera Connect app and I was remote shooting within a half a second. Press button - live view active and ready to shoot. Sony really needs to get their app and general connectivity in order.
3) Touchscreen implementation. The Canon touch screen implementation is miles ahead of Sony, with everything in the menus being touchable, a quick menu with that too being touchable. It's also extremely responsive and intuitive. I don't necessarily find the menu organization all that much better than Sony (there are far fewer pages, and things are reasonably well organized, but it also can be a challenge to find certain settings because they may be in a sub section that you don't know about).
4) A few features that would be super nice to have on Sony: the bulb timer, for instance, for setting the amount of time the shutter is open without a remote release. Also..IN CAMERA RAW CONVERSION. Honestly, my #1 pet peeve with Sony, as they are essentially the only major camera maker without in-camera RAW conversion. The Canon cameras have a pretty robust system, much like Fuji's.
Things that are a wash:
- Fully articulated screen. For me, this is a wash....much better for shooting verticals...for me, much worse for landscape orientation (I do not like having the screen off axis with the lens).
Things where Sony is better:
- Continuous AF (at present...the R5 and R6 do look like they may have made up a lot of ground here), with face/eye AF. It's better now on current firmware than when I tested the R two years ago, but still not near up to what Sony is doing with the real-time tracking and real-time eye AF...we will have to see if the R5 can do that.
- Obviously in this camera, the sensor isn't as good as the A7III or especially the R IV....but it's not as bad as a lot of people would have you believe. Noise control is pretty good. The only real limitation is you really can't push shadows all that much...Sony destroys this sensor, but this is related to this camera, not the system as a whole.
- Lens selection (obviously)
- Customizability. You have a lot of flexibility with the Canons, but not to the degree that Sony lets you change nearly everything to your liking.
So will I switch all my Sony gear to Canon? Sure as heck not any time soon....the affordable glass just isn't there yet. Getting similar optical quality to my Sony kit would cost tens of thousands of dollars in the RF world as of now, unless I adapted all third party EF glass, but that's not really something worthwhile. Plus, I really like my Sony kit.
Still, I'm glad I'll get to review RF glass now, which was the main motivator. And I hope Sony's paying attention and thinks to catch up in the areas it's lacking at the moment.
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, right? And it is good business for the camera company, too.
:-)
. And frankly, I don’t have any interest in the Canon R5 whatsoever. I find it amazing that some folks here feel that their current gear is lagging behind in performance. Marketed performance on paper is one thing and proven performance is a completely another. I am sure everybody realizes that but still... Oh, I don’t shoot video though, BTW.
