p.87 #1 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
arbitrage wrote:
I used to hold Canon CPS in high regard as they did get things fixed for me a number of times over the years with decent efficiency. However, lately I'm very disappointed. I'm Platinum member with CPS Canada. Now maybe Canada is different than the US. But every time I try to contact them to get my account dealt with or most recently test drive some gear all I hear back is crickets. I haven't had to send anything in for repair recently.
On the flip side with Sony I haven't had to repair anything so that experience could still go sour. But every time I email SPS I get a reply within a couple hours. Issues I have are sent up to engineering (or at least they say so) and they've followed up with further questions about my issues.
Right now based on communication I'm ranking SPS way above CPS. Repair could be different. Hopefully I don't need to test it anytime soon....Show more →
p.87 #2 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
arbitrage wrote:
Why couldn't you take low-angle picks with the A7RIV's tilt screen? I much prefer the Sony tilt screen as it stays in line with the lens. Unless you are doing verticals or selfie shots where the flip screen has the advantage.
I also like the top markers on Canon. I never got on with Sony and Nikon positions.
Lens release on L side is a huge negative for me with Canon and Nikon. I love, love, love Sony right side release...so much easier to change lenses and TCs with the lens squeezed between my legs or resting on the hood.
I agree On/Off switch placement is inferior to Nikon/Sony around the shutter button.
Pius and I discovered recently that the R5 EVF is cutting off some of the true FOV. We had thought the Canon 600/4 was longer in true focal length vs the Sony 600GM because the Sony looked zoomed out, more FOV when looking through both back to back. Final images were identical framing so the R5 is doing something weird as I'm sure it is advertised as 100% view?? I agree the R5 EVF is easier to look in and see periphery. Of course A1 has option to decrease EVF mag which allows you to see full FOV without having to strain your eye to see the periphery. ...Show more →
When I tested your a1 I found looking through EVF things seemed distant compared to the R5. When looking at the evergreens through the EVF with both eyes open the tress looked more of a fake green color and the Canon looked more natural. Might have been the way you had the colours or tones set in the EVF.
p.87 #3 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
Pius Sullivan wrote:
When I tested your a1 I found the looking through EVF things seemed distant compared to the R5. When looking at the evergreens through the EVF with both eyes open the tress looked more of a fake green color and the Canon looked more natural. Might have been the way you had the colours or tones set in the EVF.
Like ergonomics, and many things, It is just about what you are used to. But both things are adjustable in the Sony to some extent.
Me, I am used to heating my hot chocolate over a burner, not using my camera. But I suppose I would adjust and that would seem normal after a little time.
p.87 #4 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
Pius Sullivan wrote:
When I tested your a1 I found the looking through EVF things seemed distant compared to the R5. When looking at the evergreens through the EVF with both eyes open the tress looked more of a fake green color and the Canon looked more natural. Might have been the way you had the colours or tones set in the EVF.
Yes certainly the default Sony EVF setting is less natural than Canon's. You can tweak it if you care to. I have never bothered. Yes the Sony was showing a wider FOV than the Canon. I still can't explain that one as the resulting FOV of the images I took were identical. Canon must not be displaying the full 100% frame which I find odd. I'll compare this further once I get my R5 test drive (if Canon CPS ever gets back to me).
p.87 #5 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
RoamingScott wrote:
- The EVF will get extremely choppy/laggy when doing a lower light exposure preview, even when EVF is set to high refresh rate. Not super uncommon with MILCs but still very jarring when panning from bright to dark rapidly.
This is my biggest pet peeve with the R5 along with the electronic shutter only going as low as 1/2sec. Shooting owls with the R5 once light starts getting low is an extremely frustrating experience. Instead of just shooting a continuous burst after locking focus without worrying about any vibration being introduced, I have to use EFCS, wait for the rig to steady after a shot and then repeat the process until the owl is gone. The a9 was the first MILC I owned and used and I never had issues like I have with the R5. I've also played with all the exposure sim and refresh rate settings and nothing seems to improve it.
Edit: I take it back, this is my second biggest pet peeve, my biggest was the camera locking up on me and losing entire bursts five times in an hour under normal conditions the first time I ever had a Blackburnian Warbler in front of me.
p.87 #6 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
How about a Canon R5 shooters thoughts on the A1?
I think it’s fab… The electronic shutter is just amazing. I am blown away at just how silent everything runs when using a GM lens on an A1 in silent mode. It’s absolutely absurd.
Unfortunately, due to my father suddenly passing away a few weeks ago, I have not had too much opportunity to shoot, but here is a photo of our puppy Ryker at 12 weeks old galloping toward the camera.
p.87 #7 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
Jesse Evans wrote:
How about a Canon R5 shooters thoughts on the A1?
I think it’s fab… The electronic shutter is just amazing. I am blown away at just how silent everything runs when using a GM lens on an A1 in silent mode. It’s absolutely absurd.
Unfortunately, due to my father suddenly passing away a few weeks ago, I have not had too much opportunity to shoot, but here is a photo of our puppy Ryker at 12 weeks old galloping toward the camera.
p.87 #8 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
osv2 wrote:
that applies only to uber-expensive supertelephoto lenses, with the serious caveat that it's all old adapted ef-mount lens designs that don't use linear voice coil af motors... canon doesn't have any lenses in any mount that use modern af motors.
canon doesn't have anything equivalent to the fe200-600, in fact they have never made a 600mm superzoom with af, in any mount... between that and the lack of modern af motors, the ridiculous f/11 primes, slow rf100-500, etc., i don't like where canon is going with rf-mount, z-mount makes more sense for what i shoot.
there is also the sigma 500/4 on mc-11, it's good for 15fps af-c on the a9/a9ii/a1, and at the minimum it'll have better af on stacked sensor sony than it does on any canon dslr.
And soon they will add another slow-as-molasses lens in the 100-400 f/5.6-7.1. No third party glass to come to the rescue either. Nikon has 200-600 coming at least, even if not an S lens. I know Nikon won't do f/7.1 or f/11 crap.
If R3 is awesome, I'll have to use just adapted EF glass for a long time. Maybe the talk of a revolutionary 500 f/4 in 2022 will come true and we get a 500 f/4 DO. But then it will cost $15K for sure. Whoever makes a 600 f/5.6 PF/DO first, gets my money.
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p.87 #9 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
if sony got on the DO train it would be such a home run DO + linear voice coil af, oh my
p.87 #10 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
Pixel Perfect wrote:
And soon they will add another slow-as-molasses lens in the 100-400 f/5.6-7.1. No third party glass to come to the rescue either. Nikon has 200-600 coming at least, even if not an S lens. I know Nikon won't do f/7.1 or f/11 crap.
If R3 is awesome, I'll have to use just adapted EF glass for a long time. Maybe the talk of a revolutionary 500 f/4 in 2022 will come true and we get a 500 f/4 DO. But then it will cost $15K for sure. Whoever makes a 600 f/5.6 PF/DO first, gets my money.
Canon's customer base is aging with back and shoulder problems, hence the light lenses. Most of us can't see that well also so it doesn't really matter if things are not in focus or leaning to oneside. We can still see colours so they put effort into keeping that the same...
p.87 #11 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
Jesse Evans wrote:
How about a Canon R5 shooters thoughts on the A1?
I think it’s fab… The electronic shutter is just amazing. I am blown away at just how silent everything runs when using a GM lens on an A1 in silent mode. It’s absolutely absurd.
Unfortunately, due to my father suddenly passing away a few weeks ago, I have not had too much opportunity to shoot, but here is a photo of our puppy Ryker at 12 weeks old galloping toward the camera.
p.87 #12 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
arbitrage wrote:
I used to hold Canon CPS in high regard as they did get things fixed for me a number of times over the years with decent efficiency. However, lately I'm very disappointed. I'm Platinum member with CPS Canada. Now maybe Canada is different than the US. But every time I try to contact them to get my account dealt with or most recently test drive some gear all I hear back is crickets. I haven't had to send anything in for repair recently.
You can place a test drive request via the CPS site. R5 and 600 v3 are both on the test drive list. I've used their test drive feature quite a few times - I'm actually test driving a lens right now - and they always get back to me promptly.
Alternatively, you can just call the CPS Canada number and place your request over the phone. They are super nice and always pick up the phone.
p.87 #13 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
Thanks. Yes I submitted my requests through the CPS portal and yet to hear anything. I will try calling.
OSP2017 wrote:
You can place a test drive request via the CPS site. R5 and 600 v3 are both on the test drive list. I've used their test drive feature quite a few times - I'm actually test driving a lens right now - and they always get back to me promptly.
Alternatively, you can just call the CPS Canada number and place your request over the phone. They are super nice and always pick up the phone.
p.87 #14 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
arbitrage wrote:
I watched that. Good video. I think I agree with everything he says for the most part.
He and I have very different needs and priorities when it comes to choosing between those two cameras. Sounds like once I start up my vlogging YT channel then the R5 will be just the ticket
Video also confirmed my suspicion that duncang must have been out there with him that day and was the one lending him Sony gear.
Two things I noticed in the video I agree with him (that are useful for me).
1) Shooting vertically at ground level
2) ANIMAL Eye AF and BIRD Eye AF should be same setting in menu. Shouldn't be two different settings. This is very useful for WILDLIFE shooters like me. I like to shoot nature with a non-human 'animal' in it. So as I understand if you switch between feather and fur you need to change this setting. I understand you can assign a button to do this. Still..
He also mentioned shooting video is a button click without any changes in settings. Isn't it same for Sony? Not sure. I'm not a video shooter. But if things are that easy I'd like to get some clips.
p.87 #15 · Sony-shooters thoughts on the Canon R5/R6
RoamingScott wrote:
Sorry to hear about your pop, Jesse.
Are you still using the holy trinity of GFX100S/A1/R5, or is the plan to pick a winner between the 3?
I plan to sell off at least one of the systems in the next few months. Having a Leica level of camera gear sitting around my house makes me nervous.
The A1 would be the perfect camera for me if it had a 2 axis tilting screen, or a fully articulating screen AND it supported animal eye AF in video. I also really wish Sony would make something like the RF 70-200 f/4L IS or RF 70-200 f/2.8L IS. Also the LCD quality is really the worst of all 3 of the cameras.
The R5 would be the perfect camera for me if it didn't overheat, let me assign custom functions to any button (such as Rate) and allowed more functions to be mapped to buttons. I also wish that Canon would invest in better glass technology so they could create primes similar to the GMs in size and weight. The RF 50 1.2L feels chonky and ancient when using it next to the Sony 50mm 1.2 GM. Not a big deal in the end though.
The GFX 100s is not the perfect camera for me. In fact, I find it a buggy and frustrating and slow mess, but the files that come out of it are nice to look at and have been reluctant to sell the camera and the 45/2.8 and 23/4 even though I know in my heart they likely won't get used too often.
In the end, I think if I were to have my ultimate setup it would be the Canon R5 with 14-35 f/4L or 24-105 f/4L, 70-200 f/4L for backpacking / landscape photography (and videos of my dogs), and the A1 with a bunch of primes and a super tele zoom for all other types of photography. But I'll probably sell off one or the other in the end.
