p.10 #1 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
serhan_ wrote:
Looks good. I am also looking at ZM 25mm as a cheaper alternate.
And keep in mind this is wide open, just stop to f5.6, you will have full sharp good quality image. 25mm zeiss is documented as one of sharpest ZM glass on film. I don't know how it perform on SL2 but I think there is no better digital platform than SL1/2 for those rangefinder at this stage unless you shoot a M but only at 24M for now.
p.10 #2 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
Mind you m4/3 has a VERY thick cover glass I had a Pana G1, and nothing less than 50mm in Leica mount was any good, which at equivalent fov to 100 on film was rather limiting!
Gerry
serhan_ wrote:
+1. VM 35mm 2.5 was bad in corners even on m43 when I tried several years ago...
p.10 #5 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
I believe there’s one 35 Hexanon for M mount and two for LTM. LTM design is different than the M. Never used it, have heard good things about the whole line up.
p.10 #7 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
imagesfromobjects wrote:
Have you tried the VM Skopar 35/2.5? It's become my most-used lens on my M6, and is more than usable on Sigma fp. Thing is TINY. I don't know if I got a great copy, or if others who are more particular might find fault with it, but I traded in the (exceptional) ZM 35/2.5 for it and have no regrets.
From a handling perspective, it's just about perfect. It would normally seem to have a somewhat stiff focusing action, but the throw is very, very short, so it's actually perfect in this case. I chose it for stopped-down stealth street and candid stuff, but I'm also a big fan of how it draws wide open and up close.
Be curious to hear other opinions about it, it seems like not too many folks out there using it.
I had the LTM version of the Skopar 35/2.5 in the very fetching silver. I also bought the LTM 75/2.5 in silver to match it. Mechanically, it may be one of my favourite lenses ever. So small, matched well to my silver Yeenon adapter. The focus action was, as you pointed out, short yet precise. Looked really good on my A7R haha.
Looks aside, I found that it was a very special and special purpose lens. It has taken some of my favourite black and white people shots ever, especially of my dad. But the subject needs to be centered...it's surprisingly sharp on centre, abysmal on the edges and in the corners. Even stopped down, it could never reach even bare adequacy, let alone some sort of 'ok' or 'good' rating. So I didn't use it for that. With the close focus adapter, I used it for close ups, people, things like that. Fantastic deployed in that way. I sold it and the 75 to the same (very happy) Leica user and really wish I hadn't haha. Loved both of those lenses. What they did, they did very well. What they didn't, they, uh, didn't at all haha. So I decided that they weren't versatile enough. I still should've kept them. I occasionally troll eBay for another silver LTM copy but the used price has gone up.
Hexanon 35/2 - LTM. -- Only 1000 made. This one is dinky (170 g). Derived from the Nikkor 3.5cm 1.8 and Summicron 35/2.
UC - Hexanon 35/2 - LTM - Same optical design as the LTM above, also 1000 produced, but with multi-coating (Ultra Coating, hence UC) on glass surfaces.
35 f2 M Hexanon- M mount - Different optical design, weight and build. Bigger at 260g and with a focusing tab.
p.10 #9 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
I used to have the M-Hexanon 35/2. Very sharp lens centrally but poor on the edges on Sony sensor so I sold it eventually. I've never had a chance to try the LTM versions, they go for quite high prices in 2nd hand market (around USD 1000-2000), especially the black UC version.
M-Hexanon 35/2 is also not common in Japan 2nd hand market but sometimes available at around $800, typically more though.
Would love to try the UC but it's been too expensive for me to justify a purchase as it probably doesn't work ideally on my Sony A9 or Sigma fp anyway...
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Has anyone on here tried/have any decent info on the Hexanon 35/2 for m-mount?
p.10 #10 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
Juha Kannisto wrote:
I used to have the M-Hexanon 35/2. Very sharp lens centrally but poor on the edges on Sony sensor so I sold it eventually. I've never had a chance to try the LTM versions, they go for quite high prices in 2nd hand market (around USD 1000-2000), especially the black UC version.
M-Hexanon 35/2 is also not common in Japan 2nd hand market but sometimes available at around $800, typically more though.
How did you find the colors/contrast and general rendering?
p.10 #11 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
Juha Kannisto wrote:
I used to have the M-Hexanon 35/2. Very sharp lens centrally but poor on the edges on Sony sensor so I sold it eventually. I've never had a chance to try the LTM versions, they go for quite high prices in 2nd hand market (around USD 1000-2000), especially the black UC version.
M-Hexanon 35/2 is also not common in Japan 2nd hand market but sometimes available at around $800, typically more though.
nehemiahphoto wrote:
How did you find the colors/contrast and general rendering?
IIRC, I briefly got to try the M-Hexanon 4-5 years ago when at a meet-up with another Leica user who brought a whole bag of goodies to try out (on my M240). It seemed competent, but nothing really jumped out at me in respect to sharpness, rendering, etc. Granted, the indoor restaurant environment wasn't exactly an ideal setting. I was also more focused on trying his 50/0.95 Noctilux.
p.10 #12 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
How did you find the colors/contrast and general rendering?
A little bit after I first got into M cameras, around 2007, I was looking for my first M-mount 35mm lens. I was very tempted by the Konica's as I read good things about them and there weren't the number of options that there are now. Even then, availability wasn't great. I decided to grab one of the Zeiss ZMs instead.
I'm sure it's a good lens but might not hold up on high resolution sensors to the edges. It also might have problems in the corners on non-M cameras or even color M digital cameras.
p.10 #13 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
nehemiahphoto wrote:
How did you find the colors/contrast and general rendering?
As I remember, this album from 2017 (not SOOC, some PP was applied and the colors on some of the shots don't look so nice now due to that) was shot with my A9 + M-Hexanon 35/2 with CV close focus adapter: https://photos.app.goo.gl/jHTXFijcHfGu1Krk9
The lens was razor sharp in the central area even up close and had some nice 3D look in the close range. I don't remember anything particular about the colors or contrast. Bokeh wasn't entirely smooth, it had some classic character. I didn't warm up to the lens so much since I could never get proper edge sharpness with it on my Sony even stopped down to f8 and the lens was bigger and heavier than some of my other RF glass. I bought it since I found on in great condition at a much better price than I had seen them going for earlier and I had interest in the lens but later I sold it without having used it much.
p.10 #14 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
zhangyue wrote:
The glow is not only SA induced glow what I have seen from other lens, but almost like a halo bleed into highlight edge, and at back light condition or harsh light, subject will have a highlight around whole body
Another similar glass I saw having this is from leica 90mm thambar. a image from Leica. This is almost too extreme but 35lux is way more versatile IMO.
Since we are at subject of this lens and I have mentioned I love this one so many times. Maybe a few images worth a thousand words.
this small 35mm summilux is sharp enough for street or travel if stop down to f5.6~f11, very similar performance from 35mm cron V1 which is good enough for any street or travel task I would say.
I know many think about busy or funky bokeh of this lens, however what I see is really some most unique and beautiful rendering over wide range of application. I especially enjoy using it for family images for preserving my memory.
This is the first image I took with this lens after I got it from Ebay. I instantly fall in love from that moment.
The overall experience using this lens has to be associate with M camera, focus is super fast, I can almost just shoot instantly for any scene. shooting 35mm and wider on M is a full enjoyment. I adapted this lens on MILC, but the magic feeling of using it was lost
Again, I have to highlight that the love of this lens stem from highly personal preference and a preference I gained from using wide variate of lenses, my conclusion is fidelity or pixel acute don't contribute more to the images than rendering or feel for most of images I enjoy to shoot, contradict to other opinions, I don't think or have the ability to let PP solve my issue, but that is just me. ...Show more →
Very nice shots! Thanks for posting.
Even with similar formulas, I'm not sure if the CV 35/1.4 II MC renders like the Leica 35/1.4 pre-asph. What I like about the Voigtlander is the busy/painterly rendering. Here is an example from a couple hours ago on the M10:
Yes, SL1/2 has better corners, but I might use the smaller M lenses more on FP as a pocket camera. Eventually Sigma will bring smaller lenses as they say they want to sell Sigma lenses Also Panasonic 20-60mm will cover the range with similar f stop around 24/25mm. There is also new MS Optics 24mm f2 also. Samples on M10:
zhangyue wrote:
And keep in mind this is wide open, just stop to f5.6, you will have full sharp good quality image. 25mm zeiss is documented as one of sharpest ZM glass on film. I don't know how it perform on SL2 but I think there is no better digital platform than SL1/2 for those rangefinder at this stage unless you shoot a M but only at 24M for now.
p.10 #16 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
zhangyue wrote:
The glow is not only SA induced glow what I have seen from other lens, but almost like a halo bleed into highlight edge, and at back light condition or harsh light, subject will have a highlight around whole body
Another similar glass I saw having this is from leica 90mm thambar. a image from Leica. This is almost too extreme but 35lux is way more versatile IMO.
Since we are at subject of this lens and I have mentioned I love this one so many times. Maybe a few images worth a thousand words.
this small 35mm summilux is sharp enough for street or travel if stop down to f5.6~f11, very similar performance from 35mm cron V1 which is good enough for any street or travel task I would say.
I know many think about busy or funky bokeh of this lens, however what I see is really some most unique and beautiful rendering over wide range of application. I especially enjoy using it for family images for preserving my memory.
This is the first image I took with this lens after I got it from Ebay. I instantly fall in love from that moment.
The overall experience using this lens has to be associate with M camera, focus is super fast, I can almost just shoot instantly for any scene. shooting 35mm and wider on M is a full enjoyment. I adapted this lens on MILC, but the magic feeling of using it was lost
Again, I have to highlight that the love of this lens stem from highly personal preference and a preference I gained from using wide variate of lenses, my conclusion is fidelity or pixel acute don't contribute more to the images than rendering or feel for most of images I enjoy to shoot, contradict to other opinions, I don't think or have the ability to let PP solve my issue, but that is just me. ...Show more →
I also really love the 35 lux pre-asph, though it is not a good performing lens in most ways by modern standards. interestingly, it's landscape performance is better on a sony sensor stack than on a leica camera – on a leica the corners curve towards you at the edges. this may make the portrait look a bit better for shooting on a leica though.
my own ocean beach shots with the lens
and other random shots with it:
the glow from the lens can be quite unique, i haven't seen any shots from the cv that look similar:
p.10 #17 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
nehemiahphoto wrote:
Do you mean the 35 lux pre-ash or 35 lux asph pre-fle? I picked up the 35 lux asph pre-fle again. The 35 lux pre-asph I shot was extremely frustrating, but sometimes produced absolutely superb files though as well.
I like the 80 lux better than the 75 Lux as well, but I find it's just big enough that I nearly never use it. The 350g is the big draw for me on the 75 CV as well, but I have a MS Optics 73 1.5 and just got the 75 1.8 Samyang, both dinky but with very different draws, so the CV 75 hasn't been a priority.
I tried the 75 lux on the GFX, but it vignettes hard. Haven't had a chance to try the 80 lux yet.
Does anyone know how the CV 75 1.5 covers 44x33? ...Show more →
What does the 80r do better than the 75m? I was mainly weary about rf focusing with a fast tele
p.10 #20 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors
sebboh wrote:
I also really love the 35 lux pre-asph, though it is not a good performing lens in most ways by modern standards. interestingly, it's landscape performance is better on a sony sensor stack than on a leica camera – on a leica the corners curve towards you at the edges. this may make the portrait look a bit better for shooting on a leica though.
I have the 35/2 asph and was looking to bid on a 35lux pre-asph, it went for just under £1500 for a very nice condition. Too bad I was just £30 shy of winning the bid. But I wasn't ready to spend more and wasn't convinced by the 1m mfd (to be used on Leica body) so didn't went full on.
Leica glass will always be Leica glass. Been trying to come up with a solution to get that look and always end up in disappointment. Interesting to hear that it perform better on Sony body though.
