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p.14 #1 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Knut. wrote:
Does anyone know how the Voigtländer 75mm F1.9 Ultron in VM-Mount performs on the Sony sensor stack?

It‘s such a nice, small lens that spaces reasonably well between 35 and 135mm…


I would suspect with high likelihood that it is fine - two things are going for it: the focal length and the lens speed. I have used rangefinder M lenses a lot on my Sony A7R (unmodified) before using digital M. I have only seen issue with M lenses below 50 mm FL. And then especially if they were f/2.8 or slower - faster lenses were fine due to the larger inner lens diameter. The 75/1.9 has both positives to work with thicker sensor stack.



Oct 06, 2023 at 12:21 PM
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p.14 #2 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Knut. wrote:
Does anyone know how the Voigtländer 75mm F1.9 Ultron in VM-Mount performs on the Sony sensor stack?

It‘s such a nice, small lens that spaces reasonably well between 35 and 135mm…


I think it works very well. I have one and have used it on my A7C quite happily, mostly wide open for close range and at f5.6 for corner-to-corner sharp infinity shots. Some samples:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/sqDbmff7dmfJW8pF8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vBaF6J5wQhbLWMRN7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ydhDFzb5oKMhV3q8A
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7SNkDWc84vdzxhLP9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pwu8mkXbeoAGPyt57
https://photos.app.goo.gl/71MVb2Tc4ciW73Ji7



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p.14 #3 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Juha Kannisto wrote:
I think it works very well. I have one and have used it on my A7C quite happily, mostly wide open for close range and at f5.6 for corner-to-corner sharp infinity shots. Some samples:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/sqDbmff7dmfJW8pF8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vBaF6J5wQhbLWMRN7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ydhDFzb5oKMhV3q8A
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7SNkDWc84vdzxhLP9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Pwu8mkXbeoAGPyt57
https://photos.app.goo.gl/71MVb2Tc4ciW73Ji7


Lovely samples, Juha! There’s absolutely no difference on the thicker Sony sensor. Generally, this is more of an issue with wide and normal lenses.

I should add the CV 50/3.5 APO to the list of not affected lenses as well.



Nov 18, 2024 at 12:39 PM
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p.14 #4 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


@Knut.

Here is a controlled direct bokeh comp—zero issues on a Stock Sony. It’s a great lens on either.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1801660/8/



Nov 18, 2024 at 01:06 PM
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p.14 #5 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Thank you.


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p.14 #6 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Updating this list:

M-lenses performing similarly on Sony and Leica:
Voigtlander 10mm f/5.6
Voigtlander 12mm f/5.6 III
Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III
Voigtlander 21mm f/3.5
Voigtlander 75mm f/1.5
Voigtlander 50mm f/3.5 APO-Lanthar
Voigtlander 75mm f/2.8 APO-Skopar

M-lenses performing better on Leica and still "OK" on Sony:
Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 III
Voigtlander 50mm f/1.5 II

M-lenses performing noticeably better on Leica:
Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton
Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron
Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 28mm f/1.5 Nokton
Voigtlander 35mm f/2.5 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 35mm f/3.5 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 90mm f/2 APO-Ultron



Apr 10, 2025 at 02:14 PM
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p.14 #7 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Fred Miranda wrote:
Updating this list:

M-lenses performing noticeably better on Leica:
Voigtlander 21mm f/1.4 Nokton
Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron
Voigtlander 28mm f/2.8 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 28mm f/1.5 Nokton
Voigtlander 35mm f/2.5 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 35mm f/3.5 Color-Skopar
Voigtlander 90mm f/2 APO-Ultron


Adding a few ones (M-lenses performing noticeably better on Leica) I tested both on Leica M and Sony E-mount cameras. The lenses below exhibit purple vignetting and some corner blur on Sony E-mount sensors when used with M/E adapter.

Voigtlander 12/5.6 II
Voigtlander 21/1.8
Voigtlander 25/4.0 Snapshot Skopar
Leica 35/2.0 ASPH Version I (stay away from adapting to Sony - doesn't even focus sharp throughout the frame at f/8 and exhibits focus unevenness).



Apr 15, 2025 at 07:22 AM
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p.14 #8 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Voigtländer Super Wide Heliar 15mm f/4.5 II - is very good lens




Apr 19, 2025 at 10:08 AM
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p.14 #9 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


retrofocus wrote:
Adding a few ones (M-lenses performing noticeably better on Leica) I tested both on Leica M and Sony E-mount cameras. The lenses below exhibit purple vignetting and some corner blur on Sony E-mount sensors when used with M/E adapter.

Voigtlander 12/5.6 II
Voigtlander 21/1.8
Voigtlander 25/4.0 Snapshot Skopar
Leica 35/2.0 ASPH Version I (stay away from adapting to Sony - doesn't even focus sharp throughout the frame at f/8 and exhibits focus unevenness).


Adding the CV 35/2 Ultron as bad on stock Sony but great on Leica.

The CV 35/1.7 is pretty ok on a stock Sony and great on a Leica.





CV 35/1.7







CV 35/1.7







CV 35/1.7




Apr 19, 2025 at 06:44 PM
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p.14 #10 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


For me, the 35mm f/1.7 Ultron is still one of the best wide-aperture 35mm lenses for the M mount today. It's sharp, has beautiful bokeh, and a close focusing distance of under 0.7m – just an all-around fantastic lens that doesn’t need to hide from any others. Especially not from the 35mm ASPH Summilux versions. And definitely not when you can get it in like-new condition with hood for around 400 euros.


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gammarART wrote:
For me, the 35mm f/1.7 Ultron is still one of the best wide-aperture 35mm lenses for the M mount today. It's sharp, has beautiful bokeh, and a close focusing distance of under 0.7m – just an all-around fantastic lens that doesn’t need to hide from any others. Especially not from the 35mm ASPH Summilux versions. And definitely not when you can get it in like-new condition with hood for around 400 euros.


One cool thing too about the 35/1.7–offers full coverage on a GFX. At least at shorter distances. I never checked at further than a 15 or so feet. Lots of vignetting, but no hard vignetting.

If the 35 Lux ASPH and 35/1.7 were the same price, which would you prefer?





CV 35/1.7 GFX







A7r2 + CV 35/1.7







CV 35/1.7




Apr 21, 2025 at 10:26 AM
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p.14 #12 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


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If the 35 Lux ASPH and 35/1.7 were the same price, which would you prefer?


Yes, it really is impressive what the CV 35mm f/1.7 is still capable of – even on the GFX.

If price weren’t a factor, I’d honestly love to mount the current Summilux on my M. The silver design just looks incredible on a silver M, and wide open it's slightly sharper than the Ultron, with more pleasant handling. But that’s about it. In terms of bokeh, the CV is noticeably smoother and more pleasing to my eyes. That’s where the Summilux can’t quite keep up.

If the Ultron came in a simple barrel design – like the CV 35mm f/1.5 or the Summilux – it would be a dream. But I got a great deal on the 40mm f/1.2 last year, and since then, it’s become my daily driver and new favorite lens (though the new Apo Ultron is a whole lot of fun too).

40mm is just such a lovely focal length – even if it only takes a tiny crop from a 35mm lens to get there.



Apr 22, 2025 at 06:29 AM
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p.14 #13 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Afternoon,

I've just made the switch from Nikon (Z8 & ZF) to Sony (A7Rvi & A7CR)

On the ZF manual focus was a pleasure and I had the Voightlander 28mm f1.5, 40mm f1.2 & 75mm f1.5 - those 3 lenses along with the 24-120 were my go to travel kit

The plan was to recreate this setup with the A7CR and the Tamron 35-150mm along with similar manual focus options, however manual focusing on the A7CR is significantly less enjoyable

Which took me down the techart adapter route and the various threads on the best M mount lenses to adapt

This thread looks to be the most relevant and was just curious if there had been any recent updates on this topic

Of my ideal lens set i 'think' the summary is

28mm f1.5 - not good
40mm f1.2 - mixed feedback
75mm f1.5 - good
90mm f2 - okay ish

For what it is worth i'll have or will get good AF options in 16, 20, 35, 50, 85 & 135mm, the manual focus options are just for the joy of taking pictures with them, technical perfection isnt required and a bit of character would be a plus

TIA



Jul 07, 2026 at 08:00 AM
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p.14 #14 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Andyuk109 wrote:
Afternoon,

I've just made the switch from Nikon (Z8 & ZF) to Sony (A7Rvi & A7CR)

On the ZF manual focus was a pleasure and I had the Voightlander 28mm f1.5, 40mm f1.2 & 75mm f1.5 - those 3 lenses along with the 24-120 were my go to travel kit

The plan was to recreate this setup with the A7CR and the Tamron 35-150mm along with similar manual focus options, however manual focusing on the A7CR is significantly less enjoyable

Which took me down the techart adapter route and the various threads on the best M mount lenses to adapt

This thread
...Show more

Well, you take on the Voigtlander lenses is mostly consistent with mine. I would rate the 40 f/1.2 as mediocre. Not at bad as the 28 f/1.5 and not as good as the 75 f/1.5 or the 90 f/2 APO.

Here are the Voigtlander Leica M mount lenses I think work as well (or very close to as well) on Sony as on Leica M:

10mm f/5.6, 12mm f/5.6, 15mm f/4.5 III, 21mm f/3.5, 40 f/2.8, 50mm f/3.5 APO, 75 f/1.5, 75 f/1.9, 75mm f/2.8 APO, 90mm f/2.8 APO, (and likely the 90mm f/4 APO, that will be released soon).

Here is a list of Voigtlander lenses that have some flaws, but I still think are useful:

35 f/1.7, 50 f/1.5, 90 f/2 APO

Fred's review where he has them are genuinely helpful as are the reviews at philipreeve,net.

Here are some other non-Voigtlander lenses that work as well on Sony as on Leica M:

7 Artisans 28 f/1.4 (there is a Sony version with a Leica M mount, would be a good choice for the techart adapter, it is called the FE plus version), TT Artisans 35 f/2 APO, 7 Artisans 35 f/2 Wen (makes sure you get the Wen version), LLL 50 f/2 SP II, Thypoch 75 f/1.4, LLL 75 f/2 SP II, Leica M 75 f/2.4, Zeiss ZM 85 f/4, Leica M 90 f/2 Pre-AA, MS-Optics 135 f/2.4 Aporis, Leica M 135 f/3.5 APO, Leica M 135 f/4 Tele-Elmar

Keep in mind these lenses just perform the same (or similarly) on a Leica M camera and a Sony camera. That doesn't mean they perform well on Sony. Some of them are somewhat weak performers on Leica M too, but those tend to be inexpensive.

I hope this helps. Good luck with your search.



Jul 07, 2026 at 09:01 AM
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p.14 #15 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


My only question for you is, why mess with a set up that is enjoyable and works well for you?

Andyuk109 wrote:
Afternoon,

I've just made the switch from Nikon (Z8 & ZF) to Sony (A7Rvi & A7CR)

On the ZF manual focus was a pleasure and I had the Voightlander 28mm f1.5, 40mm f1.2 & 75mm f1.5 - those 3 lenses along with the 24-120 were my go to travel kit

The plan was to recreate this setup with the A7CR and the Tamron 35-150mm along with similar manual focus options, however manual focusing on the A7CR is significantly less enjoyable

Which took me down the techart adapter route and the various threads on the best M mount lenses to adapt

This thread
...Show more



Jul 07, 2026 at 09:37 AM
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p.14 #16 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


To my mind the really strong performers and interesting lenses, worth adapting to Sony e-mount, are:
- 50/f3.5 Apo Lanthar
- 90/f4 Apo Lanthar (upcoming)

For the other options I feel that one would be better off using the original e-mount version of Voigtländer, either because the m-version does not bring anything additional to the table, or because the e-mount version is just clearly superior because of adaptation to the thicker sensor stack.

Am I missing any m-mount Voigtländer lens that is very unique and desirable, adapts well to e-mount and does not have a native e-mount counterpart?


Of course this is the thinking of someone who is based in the e-mount camp. People who use both platforms simultaneously would of course be interested in lenses performing equally well nativly on m-mount and adapted to e-mount (just to not buy a certain lens twice, e.g. for both mounts).



Jul 07, 2026 at 10:11 AM
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p.14 #17 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


A good and fair question

It was the looks of the ZF that got me back into photography along with the ergonomics and fond memories of my last camera, a d800e that convinced me of the Z8

But a few factors prompted a move towards Sony, my 300-600 f4 didnt adapt quite as well as I hoped, there isnt a 300 f2.8, the Nikon macro options weren't as good as the 100mm f2.8 and I dropped a bag of Nikon lenses just before a trip and the only replacements immediately available were Sony which adapted okay but weren't ideal

Ideally id like to stick with a single system but if push came to shove i'd buy a ZF again and either adapt or use the native Z options



Jul 07, 2026 at 10:39 AM
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p.14 #18 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


I also prefer and keep the native E-mount versions (currently keeping 16 including all 5 discontinued models) of all available CV lenses apart from those that I parted with due to limited use (10/5.6, both Macro Apo-Lanthars, original 40/1.2 & 50/1.2 since I got the SE versions).

I've had a lot of the VM and LTM options too. The ones among those I've kept on M-mount that I find most unique and desirable from size and/or rendering perspective (even if some of them work better on digital M, I only use them on Sony and I'm fully happy with them adapted) are 75/1.9, 50/1.5 Heliar classic, 50/1.5 Nokton II, Color-Skopar 28/2.8. They all bring something appealing to the table that's not covered by available E-mount CV options either by being very compact or otherwise unique.

I also keep 40/2.8 VM (2 versions), 50/2 Heliar classic (prefer the current f1.5 version), 50/3.5 APO (I don't find it as exciting and unique although optically great), 3 LTMs: 28/1.9, 28/3.5, 75/2.5.


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Jul 07, 2026 at 10:39 AM
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p.14 #19 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Andyuk109 wrote:
Afternoon,

I've just made the switch from Nikon (Z8 & ZF) to Sony (A7Rvi & A7CR)

On the ZF manual focus was a pleasure and I had the Voightlander 28mm f1.5, 40mm f1.2 & 75mm f1.5 - those 3 lenses along with the 24-120 were my go to travel kit

The plan was to recreate this setup with the A7CR and the Tamron 35-150mm along with similar manual focus options, however manual focusing on the A7CR is significantly less enjoyable

Which took me down the techart adapter route and the various threads on the best M mount lenses to adapt

This thread
...Show more

Manual focus on Sony is a step removed from Nikon, esp the eye/face green box confirmation compared to Sony's only two options (magnification and peaking). I also think you might struggle to manually focus on the a7CR with the poor EVF.

I read the CV Ultron 35/2 is getting rereleasd. I would evaluate that one as well.




Jul 07, 2026 at 10:49 AM
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p.14 #20 · Best Voigtlander M-mount lenses for Leica and Sony sensors


Yep, Ive learnt a painful and probably expensive lesson around the differences in the manual focusing experience between the ZF and A7CR over the last few weeks

Which took me down the techart and adapted M route, if I cant get the hang of MF on sony, try the AF adapter and if that isnt viable, back to a ZF without having to replace lenses (again)

Then I hit the various threads around how adapting M mount glass isnt as simple as I expected and wanted to double check the latest views on good options

Thanks




Jul 07, 2026 at 10:56 AM
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