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p.2 #1In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
DaveFP wrote:
Steve Spencer wrote
Josegulias wroteBut if 40 and 50 1.2 m have good performance in sony cameras shouldn't the 35 doing the same? I ask from ignorance.

Fred Miranda wrote
DaveFP wroteTo state the obvious -

Would love to see this show up in E mount.
Yes, because the M-mount version may not perform optimally on the Sony sensor. (Same goes for the CV 75/1.5)
There is a difference between good performance and optimal performance. The 40 & 50 have good performance on a Sony camera, but the E mount versions are clearly better (i.e., optimal performance). I for one am definitely hoping for an E mount version of this lens so I can have a version of this lens not just with good performance, but with optimal performance.
In addition:

EXIF
Will trigger Auto IBIS setting
Auto magnification (if you chose)
Less weight/size
Auto LR corrections (if desired)


The e-mount won’t be smaller and lighter.
Mar 17, 2020 at 01:05 PM
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p.2 #2In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
freaklikeme wrote:
DaveFP wrote
Steve Spencer wrote
Josegulias wroteBut if 40 and 50 1.2 m have good performance in sony cameras shouldn't the 35 doing the same? I ask from ignorance.

Fred Miranda wrote
DaveFP wroteTo state the obvious -

Would love to see this show up in E mount.
Yes, because the M-mount version may not perform optimally on the Sony sensor. (Same goes for the CV 75/1.5)
There is a difference between good performance and optimal performance. The 40 & 50 have good performance on a Sony camera, but the E mount versions are clearly better (i.e., optimal performance). I for one am definitely hoping for an E mount version of this lens so I can have a version of this lens not just with good performance, but with optimal performance.
In addition:

EXIF
Will trigger Auto IBIS setting
Auto magnification (if you chose)
Less weight/size
Auto LR corrections (if desired)
The e-mount won’t be smaller and lighter.


And you won’t be able to use a close focus helicoid adapter. And e-mount’s tend to be priced higher for the same lens.
Mar 17, 2020 at 01:23 PM
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p.2 #3In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
I think that you aren't wasting money if you can use it in your other cameras when you have two systems. 35 in the a7 and approx 50 in fuji cameras or 35 in the Z.

realVivek wrote:
Do you want to waste your money?

Josegulias wroteBut if 40 and 50 1.2 m have good performance in sony cameras shouldn't the 35 doing the same? I ask from ignorance.

Fred Miranda wrote
DaveFP wroteTo state the obvious -

Would love to see this show up in E mount.
Yes, because the M-mount version may not perform optimally on the Sony sensor. (Same goes for the CV 75/1.5)

Mar 18, 2020 at 04:06 AM
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p.2 #4In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical

Ha, yes!

These are made for Leica M and other adaptable mirrorless cams such as Fuji, Nikon Z Canon R etc.

Cosina make dedicated lenses for Sony E mount. Wait for them if you are Sony user.


Josegulias wrote:
I think that you aren't wasting money if you can use it in your other cameras when you have two systems. 35 in the a7 and approx 50 in fuji cameras or 35 in the Z.

realVivek wroteDo you want to waste your money?

Josegulias wroteBut if 40 and 50 1.2 m have good performance in sony cameras shouldn't the 35 doing the same? I ask from ignorance.

Fred Miranda wrote
DaveFP wroteTo state the obvious -

Would love to see this show up in E mount.
Yes, because the M-mount version may not perform optimally on the Sony sensor. (Same goes for the CV 75/1.5)


Mar 18, 2020 at 04:14 AM
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p.2 #5In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
Still more compact than what Sony churns out and the Sigma monstrosities!

freaklikeme wrote:
DaveFP wrote
Steve Spencer wrote
Josegulias wroteBut if 40 and 50 1.2 m have good performance in sony cameras shouldn't the 35 doing the same? I ask from ignorance.

Fred Miranda wrote
DaveFP wroteTo state the obvious -

Would love to see this show up in E mount.
Yes, because the M-mount version may not perform optimally on the Sony sensor. (Same goes for the CV 75/1.5)
There is a difference between good performance and optimal performance. The 40 & 50 have good performance on a Sony camera, but the E mount versions are clearly better (i.e., optimal performance). I for one am definitely hoping for an E mount version of this lens so I can have a version of this lens not just with good performance, but with optimal performance.
In addition:

EXIF
Will trigger Auto IBIS setting
Auto magnification (if you chose)
Less weight/size
Auto LR corrections (if desired)
The e-mount won’t be smaller and lighter.


Mar 18, 2020 at 04:17 AM
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p.2 #6In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
Looking forward to a thin-sensor comparison with the 35/1.4ZM. That lens is truly the gold standard for me.
Mar 18, 2020 at 05:11 AM
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p.2 #7In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
realVivek wrote:
Still more compact than what Sony churns out and the Sigma monstrosities!

freaklikeme wrote
DaveFP wrote
Steve Spencer wrote
Josegulias wroteBut if 40 and 50 1.2 m have good performance in sony cameras shouldn't the 35 doing the same? I ask from ignorance.

Fred Miranda wroteYes, because the M-mount version may not perform optimally on the Sony sensor. (Same goes for the CV 75/1.5)
There is a difference between good performance and optimal performance. The 40 & 50 have good performance on a Sony camera, but the E mount versions are clearly better (i.e., optimal performance). I for one am definitely hoping for an E mount version of this lens so I can have a version of this lens not just with good performance, but with optimal performance.
In addition:

EXIF
Will trigger Auto IBIS setting
Auto magnification (if you chose)
Less weight/size
Auto LR corrections (if desired)
The e-mount won’t be smaller and lighter.


No kidding. I'm very much looking forward to the David and Goliath showdown: CV 35/1.2 III vs. Sigma DN 35/1.2.
Mar 18, 2020 at 03:43 PM
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p.2 #8In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
An E vsn should be around 70mm x 65mm, and 440 grams (58mm filters), scaling similar to the E-mount 40/50 f1.2 and retaining the fast character lens sub-group's look and feel. Still close to the idealised street/travel threshold of 1000 grams camera and lens.
Mar 18, 2020 at 06:10 PM
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p.2 #9In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
Cosina have posted a few test shots. LoCa and blur look admirable although nothing shot WO
http://www.cosina.co.jp/gallery/matsuda-35mmF1_2vm-III/index.html
Mar 19, 2020 at 05:22 AM
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p.2 #10In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
philip_pj wrote:
An E vsn should be around 70mm x 65mm, and 440 grams (58mm filters), scaling similar to the E-mount 40/50 f1.2 and retaining the fast character lens sub-group's look and feel. Still close to the idealised street/travel threshold of 1000 grams camera and lens.


Here are the specs on the 40's and the 50's

weight

40
VM - 315g; E mount - 420g

50
VM - 344g; E mount - 434g

35
VM - 322g - my guess is E mount will be 425g

Length

40
VM - 43.3mm; E mount - 59.3mm

50
VM - 49mm; E mount - 58.8mm

35
VM - 50.5mm; my guess is E mount will be 60.5mm

Diameter - both the 40 f/1.2 and 50 f/1.2 have a 70.1mm max diameter. I have got to assume the 35 f/1.2 E mount if it gets built will have the same diameter.

Filter size - both the 40 f/1.2 and 50 f/1.2 have a 58mm filter thread. I have got to assume the 35 f/1.2 E mount if it gets built will have the same filter thread size.

So, I basically agree with Phillip, but my best guess is that if an E mount 35 f/1.2 get built (and do expect it to get built) it will be just a little smaller than Phillip suggests with a length closer to 60mm than 65mm and a weight closer to 425g than 440g.
Mar 19, 2020 at 08:39 AM
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p.2 #11In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
mcbroomf wrote:
Cosina have posted a few test shots. LoCa and blur look admirable although nothing shot WO
http://www.cosina.co.jp/gallery/matsuda-35mmF1_2vm-III/index.html


But who the heck is shooting these photos?
Mar 19, 2020 at 09:16 AM
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p.2 #12In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
Yea .. they always leave a little to be desired
Mar 19, 2020 at 09:31 AM
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p.2 #13In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
I wonder how this new version will behave compared to the current version (on FE bodies). There will be 3 options for me:
- cheapper v.II with AF adapter
- v. III with the AF adapter
- FE version with exif and no AF (if they will release it).
Mar 19, 2020 at 01:18 PM
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p.2 #14In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
AcuteShadows wrote:
mcbroomf wroteCosina have posted a few test shots. LoCa and blur look admirable although nothing shot WO
http://www.cosina.co.jp/gallery/matsuda-35mmF1_2vm-III/index.html
But who the heck is shooting these photos?


It looks like they were shot in Portugal.
Mar 19, 2020 at 01:20 PM
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p.2 #15In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
ikit wrote:
I wonder how this new version will behave compared to the current version (on FE bodies). There will be 3 options for me:
.....
- FE version with exif and no AF (if they will release it).


That's what I'm hoping for. No more non- native lenses for me

Mar 19, 2020 at 01:35 PM
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p.2 #16In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
Fred Miranda wrote:
AcuteShadows wrote
mcbroomf wroteCosina have posted a few test shots. LoCa and blur look admirable although nothing shot WO
http://www.cosina.co.jp/gallery/matsuda-35mmF1_2vm-III/index.html
But who the heck is shooting these photos?
It looks like they were shot in Portugal.


Yep. But aren't there any photographers in that country?

Mar 19, 2020 at 01:41 PM
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p.2 #17In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
AcuteShadows wrote:
Fred Miranda wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
mcbroomf wroteCosina have posted a few test shots. LoCa and blur look admirable although nothing shot WO
http://www.cosina.co.jp/gallery/matsuda-35mmF1_2vm-III/index.html
But who the heck is shooting these photos?
It looks like they were shot in Portugal.
Yep. But aren't there any photographers in that country?



The samples were not that bad.
I just got an update from CameraQuest and should get a loan for review soon.
Mar 23, 2020 at 10:43 AM
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p.2 #18In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
Fred Miranda wrote:
AcuteShadows wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
mcbroomf wroteCosina have posted a few test shots. LoCa and blur look admirable although nothing shot WO
http://www.cosina.co.jp/gallery/matsuda-35mmF1_2vm-III/index.html
But who the heck is shooting these photos?
It looks like they were shot in Portugal.
Yep. But aren't there any photographers in that country?
The samples were not that bad.
I just got an update from CameraQuest and should get a loan for review soon.


That’s true but it’s the internet and we are all suck inside so we are all hypercritical
Mar 23, 2020 at 03:53 PM
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p.2 #19In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
Fred Miranda wrote:
AcuteShadows wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
mcbroomf wroteCosina have posted a few test shots. LoCa and blur look admirable although nothing shot WO
http://www.cosina.co.jp/gallery/matsuda-35mmF1_2vm-III/index.html
But who the heck is shooting these photos?
It looks like they were shot in Portugal.
Yep. But aren't there any photographers in that country?
The samples were not that bad.
I just got an update from CameraQuest and should get a loan for review soon.


Not that bad is a very low bar for photographs that should indicate the presumably excellent qualities of a lens.
Mar 24, 2020 at 06:03 AM
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p.2 #20In Stock: Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton III Aspherical
AcuteShadows wrote:
Fred Miranda wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
AcuteShadows wrote
mcbroomf wroteCosina have posted a few test shots. LoCa and blur look admirable although nothing shot WO
http://www.cosina.co.jp/gallery/matsuda-35mmF1_2vm-III/index.html
But who the heck is shooting these photos?
It looks like they were shot in Portugal.
Yep. But aren't there any photographers in that country?
The samples were not that bad.
I just got an update from CameraQuest and should get a loan for review soon.
Not that bad is a very low bar for photographs that should indicate the presumably excellent qualities of a lens.


It is common for new, unreleased lenses to be poorly represented in marketing materials.

Strange but true.

Mar 24, 2020 at 06:14 AM
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