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 p.6 #13 · Jared - one year in on Z6 / Z7 | |
1bwana1 wrote:
I have known Lance for a while here on FM. Yes, he is a Nikon fan, and presents his opinions with conviction. However, he has always been a gentleman, and I respect him for that. He and I disagree regularly, but I think genuinely like each other. The same goes for many others here on FM.
Who wants to discuss things only with people who agree with you. Things are learned, positions evolve, and we are entertained by all.
I don't know what your history is on other sites, but here how things are said is often as important as what is said.
I do know that if you treat your fellow members with respect, you will get it in return.
The occasional barb is just part of the fun!
As for DSLRs, I am reminded of an African story (I am sure something close to this actually happened somewhere). Africans have a unique way of looking at things, and saying things.
One day one of the foremen at the mine came running into the office. He said in an excited voice "Bwana come quickly, David has midly been eaten by a lion".
Well, I didn't really know how to take this statement. So for clarification I asked whether he was dead.
"No Bwana" he said, "he is not completely dead".
Still having no idea of the seriousness of the problem I grabbed my rifle and went with him to see David for myself.
Anyway, the point is that like David, DSLRs have been bitten. They are "not completely dead", but we still have to see what the situation actually is. It's looking bad at this point for both David, and DSLRs.
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I'll leave the Lance thing without comment as I know him well from DPR.
On this "I do know that if you treat your fellow members with respect, you will get it in return. " I will say that if someone tackles me as I walk in a door, expect a push back. The fellow you mentioned in the other thread looking for advice on a Z7 had to get all conciliatory and kiss a little butt to get some fellows to back off. That is not me.
On the "The occasional barb is just part of the fun! " that premise alludes Charles. He didn't take the joke I posted all too well. Kind of a barb and a lesson, but whatever.
On this "I don't know what your history is on other sites, but here how things are said is often as important as what is said." I said in one of my early posts on DPR that I write in short, choppy sentences (in a hurry most times) and sometimes it gets taken different than it is. However, I do say what's on my mind, I don't kiss butt and I have no problem burning a few bridges. On the other hand, I'm not sanctimonious like too many I run into on camera forums.
On the DSLR thingy, I've said Nikon has dug themselves in a hole with their late arrival to ML FF. (have to put in FF as someone will be throwing in the V1 or whatever it was) If technology had aligned prior to the D800, and Nikon went with ML then, it might have been an easy transition. But that wasn't possible and now the D850, D810, D5, D4s, D500 (D750?) are just too, too good. No need for most to change.
I don't buy that DSLRs are dead. If they die though, I have no problem with that. 1. I'm good with what I have and there's still lots of f glass to buy that I don't have. 2. If ML supplants DSLRs, that means they have become very, very good, and why would I not want one, if 1. no longer applies
I put out the idea that both ML and DSLRs may be outed by something new before ML gets a chance to replace DSLRs. Technology moves very fast and as I read this morning on DPR, by Bill Ferris and he said.
"The bigger picture is that the traditional SLR and DSLR interfaces are obsolete. And since mirrorless ILCs have essentially adopted that interface, as is, that makes mirrorless ILCs also obsolete...a fact that's reflected in that segment losing customers, year-on-year. Neither SLR nor ML ILCs are growth industries. Without substantial revision of the interface and workflow, both will be dead in 10 years."
I do not disagree with that. ML is just a different take on a DSLR and if built to a D850 level, both would have there pluses and minuses making a use for both for some people.
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