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p.7 #1 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


Jman13 wrote:
It’s going to be very hard for me to resist getting one of these. I’m already looking at what I can sell to pay for one. I’ve held out in getting an X100 series camera, but this one just ticks a lot of boxes for me. The improved lens is the biggie....being able to get fast AF with a lens that’s sharp wide open, this compact is great, and everything else about it just works for me.


Yeah I could probably sell a few things and pick this up and be very happy with the tradeoff too.



Feb 04, 2020 at 09:41 PM
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p.7 #2 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


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His X100F looks like what mine would have done before I sent it back to Fuji and is now pretty sharp even at F2. Even reviewers had copies that were decentered. Look at this shot from image resource, the left side is much softer than right. https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/fuji-x100f/FULLRES/YDSCF1706.HTM


I meant check it generally for his impressions and images....not the MFD comparisons. You guys are taking this kinda personally. I thought the MFD softness was a known issue? For me it's a barrier because I take closeups of things. 100V lens seems to have fixed that. For general photos, ie, 5 to 10 feet away, at f4, f5.6, f8 etc, that probably wasn't an issue for most folks.



Feb 04, 2020 at 10:40 PM
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p.7 #3 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


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I enjoyed his write up, but must say his gushing over the sunstar and flare of the new lens had me scratching my head and docking credibility points ("All that is left is beautiful sunstars when stopped down, and soft gloomy flaring when hard pressed directly into the sun. It looks absolutely perfect!") His pictures show that neither the sunstar nor the flare are anything to write home about; they strike me as a weakness in an otherwise pretty great camera. Not remotely close to "absolutely perfect."


Yep...he is gushing. I think credible, in that, he isn't "against" anything that I ever noted. You have to interpret his reviews visually IMO. He is a creative sort so not very technical or whatever, but an excellent photographer with an absurdly good eye. Sunstars are definitely soft, as pointed out in the dpr video as well. Flares typically don't bug me either way, I am OK with that.



Feb 04, 2020 at 10:44 PM
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p.7 #4 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


nitewulf wrote:
I meant check it generally for his impressions and images....not the MFD comparisons. You guys are taking this kinda personally. I thought the MFD softness was a known issue? For me it's a barrier because I take closeups of things. 100V lens seems to have fixed that. For general photos, ie, 5 to 10 feet away, at f4, f5.6, f8 etc, that probably wasn't an issue for most folks.


I looked at the sample pics from the review on their site. Close up my X100F is sharp even wide open at very close distance once I got it back from Fuji. Mine was soft close and also at any F stop on the left side. I use it exclusively for food shots and it takes fantastic close up shots at F2. What I see so far from the sample pics on the new X100V is not noticeably better.



Feb 04, 2020 at 11:21 PM
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p.7 #5 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


Well damn Fuji. I've been looking at a meaningful 'pocketable' camera for a while now and Fuji finally seems to have done it. The lens upgrade, the improved EVF, weather sealing***, B-cam video specs and finally a tiltscreen have made this such an incredibly compelling option for me.

X100F users might not find these things a good enough reason to upgrade, and to be fair the X100F is still a decent camera, but for me this is the complete package I was waiting for. If it was between the X100F and the Ricoh GRIII, I would pick the Ricoh any day. This however stands in a league of its own.

Now I'm curious to see if those RX1RIII rumors pan out.



Feb 05, 2020 at 12:37 AM
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p.7 #6 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


Jman13 wrote:
It’s going to be very hard for me to resist getting one of these. I’m already looking at what I can sell to pay for one. I’ve held out in getting an X100 series camera, but this one just ticks a lot of boxes for me. The improved lens is the biggie....being able to get fast AF with a lens that’s sharp wide open, this compact is great, and everything else about it just works for me.


Yep... but just to talk us both out of it (a little): they reduced the power of the built-in flash. The 'effective range' quoted in the specs used to go up to 9m/29.5ft on the X100F and is now 7.4m/24.3ft. The guide number went from 4.6 to 4.4.

Not sure how much that impacts the usability of the built-in flash for fill, but it seems a bit strange that they downgrade a popular and (combined with the leaf shutter) unique feature... Maybe it was a necessary tradeoff to save space for the weather resistance.



Feb 05, 2020 at 01:37 AM
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p.7 #7 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


All the reviews show the new lens is substantially sharper across the image when shot wide open. When it comes to corner sharpness it’s not even close... the new lens is better.

RayinNY wrote:
Looking at the sample pics, the 100V doesn't look any sharper than my 100F.




Feb 05, 2020 at 09:11 AM
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p.7 #8 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


robert_in_ca wrote:
All the reviews show the new lens is substantially sharper across the image when shot wide open. When it comes to corner sharpness it’s not even close... the new lens is better.



1. Define "substantially."

2. Define "not even close."

Yes, it does look like the new lens is better. Objectively, there is a lot of hyperbole about the magnitude of the improvement right now.

And, yes, the X100v looks like a fine camera. Which is what we all said about the X100f, too. ;-)

Dan



Feb 05, 2020 at 10:08 AM
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p.7 #9 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


My copy of the 23mm f2 is sharp wide open as well. When I compare it to images from people who complain about it, I notice that my copy is sharper. Is it tack sharp at f2 and MFD? No. But is it much sharper than the sample images I have seen online? Yes. So I got lucky with a good copy and I am never selling it.


Feb 05, 2020 at 11:25 AM
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p.7 #10 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


I have only used the X100f briefly. I had my hands on one a year or two ago, and I spent an hour making photographs on the street and inside a building where I could photograph structural features from near and far. I put those images through my typical post-processing workflow so that I could assess the quality potential of the images.

I felt that the technical results were excellent, including in photographs that I shot from very short distances, photographs that included both near and far subjects, and easier subjects in outdoor light at greater distances.

(My reference point is my XPro2 with a variety of Fujifilm primes and zooms.)

I don't doubt that the new camera's lens has been made even better, but I seriously question the "substantially" better and "not even close" assessments, given the good quality of the older camera.

Dan



Feb 05, 2020 at 11:45 AM
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p.7 #11 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


If the new 23mm lens is tack sharp wide open then I think this is the best X100x that Fuji ever made.
I sold my X100F 2 years ago and I thought I would never got back to X100 series, but now I think I will buy this 100V.




Feb 05, 2020 at 03:35 PM
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p.7 #12 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


This new V has all the features that I wished my F has: touch screen AF, improved AF, and weather resistance. Flip screen is a nice bonus, and I like how svelte it is. Had a pre-order in, but decided to cancel and wait.

Edited on Feb 06, 2020 at 02:37 PM · View previous versions



Feb 06, 2020 at 06:16 AM
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p.7 #13 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


Just placed an order for a black. I'll have to wait about a month or two to try it out. In the meantime, I guess I'll start selling some gear.


Feb 06, 2020 at 10:01 AM
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p.7 #14 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


Sorry but I don't need to define anything. Honestly I am not sure why you always feel the need to post comments like this.


gdanmitchell wrote:
1. Define "substantially."

2. Define "not even close."

Yes, it does look like the new lens is better. Objectively, there is a lot of hyperbole about the magnitude of the improvement right now.

And, yes, the X100v looks like a fine camera. Which is what we all said about the X100f, too. ;-)

Dan




Edited on Feb 06, 2020 at 12:49 PM · View previous versions



Feb 06, 2020 at 10:37 AM
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p.7 #15 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


Let me preface what I'm about to post by writing that the X100v looks like an excellent camera, with improvements that seem like they would be welcomed. I have not used it, though I have used the X100f, and I liked the form factor and design of that camera a lot — and I was impressed with both its usability and the image quality it produced.

But those specifics aren't quite what I want to address.

My point is about the magnitude and important of changes, even when the changes are important, and our susceptibility to misjudging their significance.

If my accounting is correct, we've now seen the X100, X100s, X100t, X100f, and X100v. If you go back and read contemporary reviews around the time that each of these was released you will find a similar range of descriptions. At one end of the spectrum we read glowing, passionate descriptions that remark on how magical the camera is and how it exceeds anything that came before — one common sort of review works for added credibility by including something along the lines of [I]I used the older thing, it was OK, it didn't amaze me, but this one is amazing, profound, life-changing![/I]. (Another approach is to point out that the new one incrementally improves some of the weaknesses of the old one.)

Let's think about that for a moment. Someone claimed that (despite its less advanced technology, in the light of what we know now) that the X100 was "that camera" — the amazing, life-changing tool that would "take your photography to new levels!"

Then the X100s came out. Someone — sometimes the same people! — told us that IT was the amazing, life-changing super-camera that would forever alter our world... and that the formerly amazing X100 was now a deficient, sub-standard tool that should be replaced by the new Wonder Camera.

You know where I'm going with this, right?

On the arrival of the X100t... yes, we saw the same level of enthusiasm and claims, and the same charges against the older camera. (The facts about the improvements are real — it is the evaluation of their significance that we need to look at more closely.) Then the X100f arrived and IT was apparently an order of magnitude better than the now-deficient X100t.

Today the X100v arrives, and by some accounts — even though no one has had a chance to use it all THAT much yet — IT is the new Amazing Super Camera whose performance will Change Your Photography Forever!

In a couple of years there will be a X100w or something. It isn't hard to predict that when it arrives, with whatever improvements it implements, that we'll hear how it Finally Achieves What The X100 Series Was Aiming For, and that it is the Amazingly Consummate Super Camera.

First, an acknowledgment. Every single one of these successive models has been an improvement over the previous model in various ways. The sensor has improved, going to 16MP, then 24MP, then 26MP. AF performance has continued to improve. Now a tilting LCD has been added. Interface improvements have arrived with each new model. And so on.

My point is not that the newer cameras are not better. They are.

However, the question is "how much better?"

If your tendency is to regard the improvements in the new camera as making it stupendously better, twice as good, orders of magnitude beyond the previous model, something that will profoundly change your photography...

... you might want to chill out for a moment.

Folks had the same attitude, including a lot of the same reviewers and similar, to each of those earlier cameras. (I recall specifically how sexy the X100 looked to all of us way back when it came out.)

Imagine that each new iteration was actually, say, twice as good as the previous one. A bit of basic math is cause for suspicion.

X100 — Good
X100s — 200% of the X100
X100t — 200% of the X100s and 400% of the X100
X100f — 200% of the X100t, 400% of the X100s, 800% of the X100
X100v —200% of X100f, 400% of X100t, 800% of X100s,1600% better than X100

Really?

;-)



Feb 06, 2020 at 10:55 AM
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p.7 #16 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


My main gripes with the F version was the ISO wheel, as it was just super fiddly to use, especially if you're wearing gloves, low resolution of the EVF, and the softness of the lens at close focusing distances wide open. Now that those three things have been fixed, I am likely going to pick one up


Feb 06, 2020 at 12:21 PM
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p.7 #17 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


Any info about AF performance? I know the cpu and speed of processing is on par with xt3/pro3 but the lens has a specific design where it moves when autofocussing so I wonder if this is as fast and silent as the xf23/2


Feb 06, 2020 at 03:44 PM
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p.7 #18 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


Jonas’ review mentions that the af speed is great. He says very nice and fast, as fast as the 23mm f2 on x-pro3.


Feb 06, 2020 at 04:15 PM
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p.7 #19 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


Only question for me is; Do I want one in Silver or Black....decisions, decisions...


Feb 06, 2020 at 07:47 PM
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p.7 #20 · Fujifilm X100V Coming soon!


EstherSP wrote:
My main gripes with the F version was the ISO wheel, as it was just super fiddly to use, especially if you're wearing gloves, low resolution of the EVF, and the softness of the lens at close focusing distances wide open. Now that those three things have been fixed, I am likely going to pick one up


The ISO dial and EVF upgrade are nice but I learned to live with those just fine on the XP2. What really kept me away from X100's was the close focus performance of the lens at wide aperture as I like to do a lot of closeup shots with a walk around setup, flowers etc.



Feb 06, 2020 at 07:57 PM
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