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Archive 2019Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens

  
 
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p.1 #1Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
I haven't seen too much talk about this lens, so thought I'd post a few pics taken with mine on a Leica M Typ240. I originally picked up the f2 to complement my CV 35mm Nokton f1.2 II, which is a great lens, just kinda big and heavy to carry around all day. The 1.4 version II was tempting, but it sounded like the focus shift may still be present to a lesser degree, so in the end the f2 version seemed like a great option, and I found a good deal also.

I've only had it a couple of days, but to me it seems to have a nice 3d pop, is very sharp to my eye, very small and light and the focus tab/lever which I wasn't sure I'd like - I actually like a lot. Now I find myself hoping they'll release a 50mm f2 in the same vintage line. Mostly shot wide open below.

Sorry most are in black & white, have been in a BW kinda mood ...

Morgan by Jonathan Robson, on Flickr

Gulf by Jonathan Robson, on Flickr

Untitled by Jonathan Robson, on Flickr

Untitled by Jonathan Robson, on Flickr

with TechArt Pro adapter on a Sony A7rII...
Untitled by Jonathan Robson, on Flickr
Aug 10, 2019 at 05:39 PM
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p.1 #2Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Thx for sharing
Aug 10, 2019 at 09:25 PM
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p.1 #3Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Can only say that your photos are proof of the qualities of this lens and they show the good eye of the photographer as well.
Really like this series a little lot, and the PP is very subtle and matches the motives quite well ( as well as your decisions for either color or B&W here ! )
Aug 12, 2019 at 09:23 AM
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p.1 #4Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
low325 wrote:
Thx for sharing


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nikonos6 wrote:
Can only say that your photos are proof of the qualities of this lens and they show the good eye of the photographer as well.
Really like this series a little lot, and the PP is very subtle and matches the motives quite well ( as well as your decisions for either color or B&W here ! )


Thank you both. I used the lens quite a bit over the weekend. My initial impressions of it are extremely positive. Only observation is it maybe renders a tad warm, still trying to decide this versus if it was just the lighting that day.
Aug 12, 2019 at 07:59 PM
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p.1 #5Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Your pictures are really wonderful. I like the size and look of this lens, and I'm really surprised there's so little press on this.
Aug 16, 2019 at 08:10 AM
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p.1 #6Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
I've also been interested in this lens, but as a smaller/shorter alternative to the 35/1.7. There was a rather informative thread about it over at LUF (or maybe it was RFF). There's also a thread here with sample photos by Juha earlier this year shot on the Sony a9. Based on those discussions it seemed there were some technical performance differences whether the lens was used on a Leica or on Sony mirrorless. Namely, it appeared there was some degree of field curvature on Sony. On Leica across-frame sharpness appeared to be great by f/4 whereas on Sony it required stopping down to at least f/5.6 and was helped by focusing in the mid zone area rather than centrally. Its background rendering appears to be somewhere between the 35/1.7 (smooth) and the 35/1.4 (busy).
Aug 16, 2019 at 08:25 AM
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p.1 #7Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
rscheffler wrote:
I've also been interested in this lens, but as a smaller/shorter alternative to the 35/1.7. There was a rather informative thread about it over at LUF (or maybe it was RFF). There's also a thread here with sample photos by Juha earlier this year shot on the Sony a9. Based on those discussions it seemed there were some technical performance differences whether the lens was used on a Leica or on Sony mirrorless. Namely, it appeared there was some degree of field curvature on Sony. On Leica across-frame sharpness appeared to be great by f/4 whereas on Sony it required
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I haven't shot with it much on my A7rII, but interestingly was shooting with it on my M 240 last night along with a Zeiss Planar 50mm f/2. Got home to review the photos and without realizing initially, I was just wowed by the shots that the lens is producing, was a bit of an unscientific taste test as I didn't notice until later that the photos where from the 35 as opposed to the 50. I'll post a couple when I get to processing them.

It seems to be a great lens. I had the 35 f/1.7 and sold it, just didn't bond with the ergo's of that lens, optically though it was great.

I've always been an admirer of the RX1 35 f2, though never owned one, but photos with that lens seem to just have something about them that I can't put my finger on. This CV seems to have that same 'thing' to me. I'm no lens tester though, just know when I like/dislike a lens.
Aug 16, 2019 at 04:57 PM
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p.1 #8Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
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rscheffler wroteI've also been interested in this lens, but as a smaller/shorter alternative to the 35/1.7. There was a rather informative thread about it over at LUF (or maybe it was RFF). There's also a thread here with sample photos by Juha earlier this year shot on the Sony a9. Based on those discussions it seemed there were some technical performance differences whether the lens was used on a Leica or on Sony mirrorless. Namely, it appeared there was some degree of field curvature on Sony. On Leica across-frame sharpness appeared to be great by f/4 whereas on Sony it required stopping down to at least f/5.6 and was helped by focusing in the mid zone area rather than centrally. Its background rendering appears to be somewhere between the 35/1.7 (smooth) and the 35/1.4 (busy).
I haven't shot with it much on my A7rII, but interestingly was shooting with it on my M 240 last night along with a Zeiss Planar 50mm f/2. Got home to review the photos and without realizing initially, I was just wowed by the shots that the lens is producing, was a bit of an unscientific taste test as I didn't notice until later that the photos where from the 35 as opposed to the 50. I'll post a couple when I get to processing them.

It seems to be a great lens. I had the 35 f/1.7 and sold it,
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Great to hear and I am looking forward to seeing your pictures taken with this little gem.
After a lot of pondering I now think it would really make sense to get this one over the 40mm nocton, since I would love to use it on a film leica as well, and size and FL of the 40mm nocton doesn’t really suit the leica so well.
Perhaps I will get the 75mm 1.5 to complement it.
So really looking forward to seeing more pictures taken with it!
Aug 17, 2019 at 07:13 AM
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p.1 #9Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Thanks for sharing. I was looking into this lens and there isn't much out there on it. Same for the 35 1.4. II. Just received my 1.4 today and will test it this weekend. Looking for a faster 35mm than my Biogon but it's probably the best lens I've ever used included the Leica counterparts, so it's hard to judge against it. If the f2 is close enough it may be worth it for an extra stop.

You finding any distortion with it?
Aug 17, 2019 at 10:10 AM
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p.1 #10Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Nick Dakota wrote:
Thanks for sharing. I was looking into this lens and there isn't much out there on it. Same for the 35 1.4. II. Just received my 1.4 today and will test it this weekend. Looking for a faster 35mm than my Biogon but it's probably the best lens I've ever used included the Leica counterparts, so it's hard to judge against it. If the f2 is close enough it may be worth it for an extra stop.

You finding any distortion with it?


I haven’t and there is no lens profile yet to correct anything, but equally I haven’t shot any brick walls either to really know, but certainly there isn’t anything that jumps out
Aug 17, 2019 at 11:35 AM
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p.1 #11Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Lovely shots. Do you have samples with sony?
Aug 18, 2019 at 08:18 AM
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After seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.

What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.
Sep 10, 2019 at 05:24 PM
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p.1 #13Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
taemo wrote:
After seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.

What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.


Not sure about the new 35/2 Ultron lens, but the CV 21/3.5 color skopar supposedly does not work well on Sony sensors due to the smaller pupil distance of the lens. I went with the CV 21/1.8 just for this reason which works well both on Leica M and on my A7R.
Sep 10, 2019 at 05:54 PM
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p.1 #14Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
retrofocus wrote:
taemo wroteAfter seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.

What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.
Not sure about the new 35/2 Ultron lens, but the CV 21/3.5 color skopar supposedly does not work well on Sony sensors due to the smaller pupil distance of the lens. I went with the CV 21/1.8 just for this reason which works well both on Leica M and on my A7R.


The E-mount version of the CV21/3.5 is really good on Sony's sensor. They must have tweaked it a bit.
Sep 11, 2019 at 12:14 PM
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MAubrey wrote:
retrofocus wrote
taemo wroteAfter seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.

What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.
Not sure about the new 35/2 Ultron lens, but the CV 21/3.5 color skopar supposedly does not work well on Sony sensors due to the smaller pupil distance of the lens. I went with the CV 21/1.8 just for this reason which works well both on Leica M and on my A7R.
The E-mount version of the CV21/3.5 is really good on Sony's sensor. They must have tweaked it a bit.


Yes, this one is optimized for E-mount cameras. I am not even aware of a single E-mount designed third party lens which didn't perform well on the Sony sensor.
Sep 11, 2019 at 12:37 PM
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retrofocus wrote:
taemo wroteAfter seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.

What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.
Not sure about the new 35/2 Ultron lens, but the CV 21/3.5 color skopar supposedly does not work well on Sony sensors due to the smaller pupil distance of the lens. I went with the CV 21/1.8 just for this reason which works well both on Leica M and on my A7R.


Haven't had much time to shoot with the CV 21mm 3.5 M mount on my Sony A7RII but from my initial test (snapshots of our little one), it looks good.
I'm not expecting the corner to corner sharpness that I was getting with my Loxia 21mm and for landscape I will be stopping it down to f/5.6-8 so I'm not too worried.

Pulled the trigger on the 35mm f2 Ultron, should be here next week, again not expecting corner to corner sharp on the A7RII but I wanted to test the lens with my own eyes to see how it performs. Have a CV 40mm 1.4 M mount that I will be comparing it with as from what I've seen so far, the Ultron is already center sharp at f/2, unlike the Nokton that I have to stop it down to f/2.8-4.
Sep 18, 2019 at 07:26 AM
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taemo wrote:
retrofocus wrote
taemo wroteAfter seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.

What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.
Not sure about the new 35/2 Ultron lens, but the CV 21/3.5 color skopar supposedly does not work well on Sony sensors due to the smaller pupil distance of the lens. I went with the CV 21/1.8 just for this reason which works well both on Leica M and on my A7R.
Haven't had much time to shoot with the CV 21mm 3.5 M mount on my Sony A7RII but from my initial test (snapshots of our little one), it looks good.
I'm not expecting the corner to corner sharpness that I was getting with my Loxia 21mm and for landscape I will be stopping it down to f/5.6-8 so I'm not too worried.

Pulled the trigger on the 35mm f2 Ultron, should be here next week, again not expecting corner to corner sharp on the A7RII but I wanted to test the lens with my own eyes to see how it performs.
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Great! I just tested the CV 25/4.0 LTM Snapshot Skopar lens attached to my A7R, and it is horrible - most color fringing and corner unsharpness I have ever seen so far with an adapted lens. Not surprising since the pupil lens diameter is very short to keep the lens small (it has no coupled rangefinder focusing either due to the small lens size). Not a biggie since I am using this lens mostly on my Leica LTM and M film cameras where it works great. But it is a no-go on the A7R.
Sep 18, 2019 at 09:11 AM
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taemo wrote:
retrofocus wrote
taemo wroteAfter seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.

What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.
Not sure about the new 35/2 Ultron lens, but the CV 21/3.5 color skopar supposedly does not work well on Sony sensors due to the smaller pupil distance of the lens. I went with the CV 21/1.8 just for this reason which works well both on Leica M and on my A7R.
Haven't had much time to shoot with the CV 21mm 3.5 M mount on my Sony A7RII but from my initial test (snapshots of our little one), it looks good.
I'm not expecting the corner to corner sharpness that I was getting with my Loxia 21mm and for landscape I will be stopping it down to f/5.6-8 so I'm not too worried.

Pulled the trigger on the 35mm f2 Ultron, should be here next week, again not expecting corner to corner sharp on the A7RII but I wanted to test the lens with my own eyes to see how it performs.
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Great! I just tested the CV 25/4.0 LTM Snapshot Skopar lens attached to my A7R, and it is horrible - most color fringing and corner unsharpness I have ever seen so far with an adapted lens. Not surprising since the pupil lens diameter is very short to keep the lens small (it has no coupled rangefinder focusing either due to the small lens size). Not a biggie since I am using this lens mostly on my Leica LTM and M film cameras where it works great. But it is a no-go on the A7R.
Sep 18, 2019 at 09:11 AM
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retrofocus wrote:
taemo wrote
retrofocus wrote
taemo wroteAfter seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.

What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.
Not sure about the new 35/2 Ultron lens, but the CV 21/3.5 color skopar supposedly does not work well on Sony sensors due to the smaller pupil distance of the lens. I went with the CV 21/1.8 just for this reason which works well both on Leica M and on my A7R.
Haven't had much time to shoot with the CV 21mm 3.5 M mount on my Sony A7RII but from my initial test (snapshots of our little one), it looks good.
I'm not expecting the corner to corner sharpness that I was getting with my Loxia 21mm and for landscape I will be stopping it down to f/5.6-8 so I'm not too worried.

Pulled the trigger on the 35mm f2 Ultron, should be here next week, again not expecting corner to corner sharp on the A7RII but I wanted to test the lens with my own eyes to see how it performs. Have a CV 40mm 1.4 M mount that I will be comparing it with as from what I've seen so far, the Ultron is already center sharp at f/2, unlike the Nokton that I have to stop it down to f/2.8-4.
Great! I just tested the CV 25/4.0 LTM Snapshot Skopar lens attached to my A7R, and it is horrible - most color fringing and corner unsharpness I have ever seen so far with an adapted lens. Not surprising since the pupil lens diameter is very short to keep the lens small (it has no coupled rangefinder focusing either due to the small lens size). Not a biggie since I am using this lens mostly on my Leica LTM and M film cameras where it works great. But it is a no-go on the A7R.


I hear you, the Skopar 25mm LTM was one of my favourite lenses (I've owned 2 in the past) and would have definitely kept them if they performed decently on Leica and Sony digital cameras.
Do-able with CornerFix but a lot of work.
Great snapshot lens!
Sep 18, 2019 at 02:03 PM
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robsonj wrote:
I haven't seen too much talk about this lens, so thought I'd post a few pics taken with mine on a Leica M Typ240. I originally picked up the f2 to complement my CV 35mm Nokton f1.2 II, which is a great lens, just kinda big and heavy to carry around all day. The 1.4 version II was tempting, but it sounded like the focus shift may still be present to a lesser degree, so in the end the f2 version seemed like a great option, and I found a good deal also.

I've only had it a couple of days,
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Now that you've been using it for a bit now, have you noticed any focus shift?
Sep 26, 2019 at 09:41 PM
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