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Archive 2019Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
p.2 #1Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Totally. That's another lens I'm really hoping CV updates to a more digital-friendly version.
The 21/4 LTM is oddly MUCH better than the 25/4 M, at least on a7S. Not perfect in the corners, but minor color shift and no noticeable corner smearing.
retrofocus wrote:
What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.Not sure about the new 35/2 Ultron lens, but the CV 21/3.5 color skopar supposedly does not work well on Sony sensors due to the smaller pupil distance of the lens. I went with the CV 21/1.8 just for this reason which works well both on Leica M and on my A7R.Haven't had much time to shoot with the CV 21mm 3.5 M mount on my Sony A7RII but from my initial test (snapshots of our little one), it looks good.
I'm not expecting the corner to corner sharpness that I was getting with my Loxia 21mm and for landscape I will be stopping it down to f/5.6-8 so I'm not too worried.
Pulled the trigger on the 35mm f2 Ultron, should be here next week, again not expecting corner to corner sharp on the A7RII but I wanted to test the lens with my own eyes to see how it performs. Have a CV 40mm 1.4 M mount that I will be comparing it with as from what I've seen so far, the Ultron is already center sharp at f/2, unlike the Nokton that I have to stop it down to f/2.8-4.Great! I just tested the CV 25/4.0 LTM Snapshot Skopar lens attached to my A7R, and it is horrible - most color fringing and corner unsharpness I have ever seen so far with an adapted lens. Not surprising since the pupil lens diameter is very short to keep the lens small (it has no coupled rangefinder focusing either due to the small lens size). Not a biggie since I am using this lens mostly on my Leica LTM and M film cameras where it works great. But it is a no-go on the A7R.
The 21/4 LTM is oddly MUCH better than the 25/4 M, at least on a7S. Not perfect in the corners, but minor color shift and no noticeable corner smearing.
retrofocus wrote:
taemo wrote
retrofocus wrote
taemo wrote
After seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.
I'm not expecting the corner to corner sharpness that I was getting with my Loxia 21mm and for landscape I will be stopping it down to f/5.6-8 so I'm not too worried.
Pulled the trigger on the 35mm f2 Ultron, should be here next week, again not expecting corner to corner sharp on the A7RII but I wanted to test the lens with my own eyes to see how it performs. Have a CV 40mm 1.4 M mount that I will be comparing it with as from what I've seen so far, the Ultron is already center sharp at f/2, unlike the Nokton that I have to stop it down to f/2.8-4.
Sep 26, 2019 at 10:10 PM
p.2 #2Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
imagesfromobjects wrote:
Totally. That's another lens I'm really hoping CV updates to a more digital-friendly version.
The 21/4 LTM is oddly MUCH better than the 25/4 M, at least on a7S. Not perfect in the corners, but minor color shift and no noticeable corner smearing.
What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.Not sure about the new 35/2 Ultron lens, but the CV 21/3.5 color skopar supposedly does not work well on Sony sensors due to the smaller pupil distance of the lens. I went with the CV 21/1.8 just for this reason which works well both on Leica M and on my A7R.Haven't had much time to shoot with the CV 21mm 3.5 M mount on my Sony A7RII but from my initial test (snapshots of our little one), it looks good.
I'm not expecting the corner to corner sharpness that I was getting with my Loxia 21mm and for landscape I will be stopping it down to f/5.6-8 so I'm not too worried.
Pulled the trigger on the 35mm f2 Ultron, should be here next week, again not expecting corner to corner sharp on the A7RII but I wanted to test the lens with my own eyes to see how it performs. Have a CV 40mm 1.4 M mount that I will be comparing it with as from what I've seen so far, the Ultron is already center sharp at f/2, unlike the Nokton that I have to stop it down to f/2.8-4.Great! I just tested the CV 25/4.0 LTM Snapshot Skopar lens attached to my A7R, and it is horrible - most color fringing and corner unsharpness I have ever seen so far with an adapted lens. Not surprising since the pupil lens diameter is very short to keep the lens small (it has no coupled rangefinder focusing either due to the small lens size). Not a biggie since I am using this lens mostly on my Leica LTM and M film cameras where it works great. But it is a no-go on the A7R.
I just experienced a positive surprise yesterday when I tested how the Russian Jupiter-12 lens - a fairly cheap 35/2.8 M39-lens - would perform on my A7R. To my surprise, it performs quite well when closed down a bit in aperture. No color fringing in the corners at all. Even better performed the much cheaper ($20) Industar N-61 (52/2.8) lens, Tessar design, on the A7R. Track sharp with excellent contrast - better than my >10x more expensive Leica 50/2 Summar lens (which has more an artistic flair to the image quality than just perfection). Seems to be similar to wine - you can get an excellent one for a quite low price and vice-versa....
Totally. That's another lens I'm really hoping CV updates to a more digital-friendly version.
The 21/4 LTM is oddly MUCH better than the 25/4 M, at least on a7S. Not perfect in the corners, but minor color shift and no noticeable corner smearing.
retrofocus wrote
taemo wrote
retrofocus wrote
taemo wrote
After seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.
I'm not expecting the corner to corner sharpness that I was getting with my Loxia 21mm and for landscape I will be stopping it down to f/5.6-8 so I'm not too worried.
Pulled the trigger on the 35mm f2 Ultron, should be here next week, again not expecting corner to corner sharp on the A7RII but I wanted to test the lens with my own eyes to see how it performs. Have a CV 40mm 1.4 M mount that I will be comparing it with as from what I've seen so far, the Ultron is already center sharp at f/2, unlike the Nokton that I have to stop it down to f/2.8-4.
I just experienced a positive surprise yesterday when I tested how the Russian Jupiter-12 lens - a fairly cheap 35/2.8 M39-lens - would perform on my A7R. To my surprise, it performs quite well when closed down a bit in aperture. No color fringing in the corners at all. Even better performed the much cheaper ($20) Industar N-61 (52/2.8) lens, Tessar design, on the A7R. Track sharp with excellent contrast - better than my >10x more expensive Leica 50/2 Summar lens (which has more an artistic flair to the image quality than just perfection). Seems to be similar to wine - you can get an excellent one for a quite low price and vice-versa....
Sep 27, 2019 at 05:17 AM
p.2 #3Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
imagesfromobjects wrote:
Totally. That's another lens I'm really hoping CV updates to a more digital-friendly version.
The 21/4 LTM is oddly MUCH better than the 25/4 M, at least on a7S. Not perfect in the corners, but minor color shift and no noticeable corner smearing.
What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.Not sure about the new 35/2 Ultron lens, but the CV 21/3.5 color skopar supposedly does not work well on Sony sensors due to the smaller pupil distance of the lens. I went with the CV 21/1.8 just for this reason which works well both on Leica M and on my A7R.Haven't had much time to shoot with the CV 21mm 3.5 M mount on my Sony A7RII but from my initial test (snapshots of our little one), it looks good.
I'm not expecting the corner to corner sharpness that I was getting with my Loxia 21mm and for landscape I will be stopping it down to f/5.6-8 so I'm not too worried.
Pulled the trigger on the 35mm f2 Ultron, should be here next week, again not expecting corner to corner sharp on the A7RII but I wanted to test the lens with my own eyes to see how it performs. Have a CV 40mm 1.4 M mount that I will be comparing it with as from what I've seen so far, the Ultron is already center sharp at f/2, unlike the Nokton that I have to stop it down to f/2.8-4.Great! I just tested the CV 25/4.0 LTM Snapshot Skopar lens attached to my A7R, and it is horrible - most color fringing and corner unsharpness I have ever seen so far with an adapted lens. Not surprising since the pupil lens diameter is very short to keep the lens small (it has no coupled rangefinder focusing either due to the small lens size). Not a biggie since I am using this lens mostly on my Leica LTM and M film cameras where it works great. But it is a no-go on the A7R.
Nevertheless, the CV 25/4 LTM lens is a keeper lens for me (even as much as it sucks on the A7R) since it performs superb on my Leica film cameras (the photo below was taken at f/8 handheld on Ilford FP4+ 125 film). I am curious how it would perform for example on a digital Leica M camera - I didn't find anything about this combination.
Totally. That's another lens I'm really hoping CV updates to a more digital-friendly version.
The 21/4 LTM is oddly MUCH better than the 25/4 M, at least on a7S. Not perfect in the corners, but minor color shift and no noticeable corner smearing.
retrofocus wrote
taemo wrote
retrofocus wrote
taemo wrote
After seeing the announcement of the Iphone 11 Pro, I decided to use my extra cash to buy the Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2, will be used on a A7RIII for the time being but my goal is to get an M240 or M10 next year.What is the consensus of the 35mm f2 Ultron on Sony bodies, does corner sharpness suffer like the other 35mm?
I would be paring this with my CV 21mm 3.5 Color Skopar in M mount.
I'm not expecting the corner to corner sharpness that I was getting with my Loxia 21mm and for landscape I will be stopping it down to f/5.6-8 so I'm not too worried.
Pulled the trigger on the 35mm f2 Ultron, should be here next week, again not expecting corner to corner sharp on the A7RII but I wanted to test the lens with my own eyes to see how it performs. Have a CV 40mm 1.4 M mount that I will be comparing it with as from what I've seen so far, the Ultron is already center sharp at f/2, unlike the Nokton that I have to stop it down to f/2.8-4.
Nevertheless, the CV 25/4 LTM lens is a keeper lens for me (even as much as it sucks on the A7R) since it performs superb on my Leica film cameras (the photo below was taken at f/8 handheld on Ilford FP4+ 125 film). I am curious how it would perform for example on a digital Leica M camera - I didn't find anything about this combination.
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Sep 27, 2019 at 05:25 AM
p.2 #4Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
weather wasn't optimal but I tried to use the 35mm f2 Ultron on the A7RII over the weekend
Sony A7RII + CV 35mm f2 Ultron by earl dieta, on Flickr
Sony A7RII + CV 35mm f2 Ultron by earl dieta, on Flickr
Sony A7RII + CV 35mm f2 Ultron by earl dieta, on FlickrSony A7RII + CV 35mm f2 Ultron by earl dieta, on FlickrOct 01, 2019 at 09:39 AM
p.2 #5Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
performs great on film
Leica M3 + CV 35mm f2 Ultron + HP5+ @400 by earl dieta, on Flickr
Leica M3 + CV 35mm f2 Ultron + HP5+ @400 by earl dieta, on Flickr
Leica M3 + CV 35mm f2 Ultron + HP5+ @400 by earl dieta, on FlickrLeica M3 + CV 35mm f2 Ultron + HP5+ @400 by earl dieta, on FlickrOct 06, 2019 at 10:56 PM
p.2 #6Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Finally got around to doing a real world review.
https://cosmotographer.com/2020/02/25/voigtlander-ultron-35mm
https://cosmotographer.com/2020/02/25/voigtlander-ultron-35mm
Feb 27, 2020 at 08:48 AM
p.2 #7Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Link doesn't seem to be working...
cosmom3 wrote:
Finally got around to doing a real world review.
https://cosmotographer.com/2020/02/25/voigtlander-ultron-35mm
Feb 27, 2020 at 09:41 AM
p.2 #8Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
imagesfromobjects wrote:
Link doesn't seem to be working...
https://cosmotographer.com/2020/02/25/voigtlander-ultron-35mm
I love my copy. Underrated lens. And the diminutive size almost makes my a7r2 + CV 35/2 pocketable.
And for those curious, the coma correction can’t even qualify as correction 😂
I have a roll of Portra160 I am looking forward to seeing using largely this lens.
Link doesn't seem to be working...
cosmom3 wrote
Finally got around to doing a real world review.https://cosmotographer.com/2020/02/25/voigtlander-ultron-35mm
I love my copy. Underrated lens. And the diminutive size almost makes my a7r2 + CV 35/2 pocketable.
And for those curious, the coma correction can’t even qualify as correction 😂
I have a roll of Portra160 I am looking forward to seeing using largely this lens.
Feb 27, 2020 at 10:12 AM
p.2 #10Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
nehemiahphoto wrote:
And for those curious, the coma correction can’t even qualify as correction 😂
Coma correction? Did Cosina pull from MS Optical's bag?
And for those curious, the coma correction can’t even qualify as correction 😂
Coma correction? Did Cosina pull from MS Optical's bag?
Feb 27, 2020 at 07:15 PM
p.2 #11Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
d.s. wrote:
Coma correction? Did Cosina pull from MS Optical's bag?
The CV 35 1.7 has surprisingly decent coma correction centrally (outer 1/3 sucks on the Sony sensor stack at least), and I think it improves with a PCX.
The 35/2 isn’t usable even at f4 to me.
nehemiahphoto wrote
And for those curious, the coma correction can’t even qualify as correction 😂The CV 35 1.7 has surprisingly decent coma correction centrally (outer 1/3 sucks on the Sony sensor stack at least), and I think it improves with a PCX.
The 35/2 isn’t usable even at f4 to me.
Feb 27, 2020 at 07:47 PM
p.2 #12Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
nehemiahphoto wrote:
The 35/2 isn’t usable even at f4 to me.
Understood. I felt similarly with the Planar.
The 35/2 isn’t usable even at f4 to me.
Understood. I felt similarly with the Planar.
Feb 27, 2020 at 10:13 PM
p.2 #13Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
The 35/2 is tempting for the size alone, but based on some of the above images, background rendering certainly is busier/swirlier than the 35/1.7...
Feb 28, 2020 at 01:34 AM
p.2 #14Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
rscheffler wrote:
The 35/2 is tempting for the size alone, but based on some of the above images, background rendering certainly is busier/swirlier than the 35/1.7...
Accurate. It also seems contrastier and a little warmer, and handles highlights in a less controlled way, so files feel more characterful but I like them better. I haven’t tested side-by-side, but I feel like the 35/2 has better CA correction but worse flare resistance. I like the ergo less than the 35/1.7 and much less than the 40 1.2 (m-mount).
I’ve barely used my 35/1.7 since acquiring this, but I am excited for the CV 35/1.2.
Edited on Apr 14, 2022 at 10:26 AM · View previous versions
The 35/2 is tempting for the size alone, but based on some of the above images, background rendering certainly is busier/swirlier than the 35/1.7...
Accurate. It also seems contrastier and a little warmer, and handles highlights in a less controlled way, so files feel more characterful but I like them better. I haven’t tested side-by-side, but I feel like the 35/2 has better CA correction but worse flare resistance. I like the ergo less than the 35/1.7 and much less than the 40 1.2 (m-mount).
I’ve barely used my 35/1.7 since acquiring this, but I am excited for the CV 35/1.2.
Edited on Apr 14, 2022 at 10:26 AM · View previous versions
Feb 28, 2020 at 09:52 AM
p.2 #15Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
I've been using this lens, be it the Type II version, on the Leica M11.
Just as a heads up. I've coded the lens as Summicron 35mm ASPH code (011110) and it's causing some red shading at the edges.
See the images below.
Coded for Summicron 35mm ASPH
Uncoded.
I'll have to search for the APO Summicron 35mm code and try that... anyone know what that lens code is?
Just as a heads up. I've coded the lens as Summicron 35mm ASPH code (011110) and it's causing some red shading at the edges.
See the images below.
Coded for Summicron 35mm ASPH
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Uncoded.
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I'll have to search for the APO Summicron 35mm code and try that... anyone know what that lens code is?
Apr 14, 2022 at 09:41 AM
p.2 #16Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/185433-m-lens-codes/?do=findComment&comment=4395124
"The code for the 35 APO M is white, white, black, black, white, black, reading clockwise."
001101
"The code for the 35 APO M is white, white, black, black, white, black, reading clockwise."
001101
Apr 15, 2022 at 01:04 PM
p.2 #17Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Cool, thank you!
Yeah, that works.
Not much different from Uncoded.
Yeah, that works.
Not much different from Uncoded.
Apr 15, 2022 at 08:22 PM
p.2 #18Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Leica M2-R + Voigtlander 35/2 II + Kodak Tri-X 400.
Home developed and scanned.
I really, really like this lens.
—Peter.
Home developed and scanned.
I really, really like this lens.
—Peter.
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Apr 16, 2022 at 12:30 PM
p.2 #19Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron Vintage Line Leica M Lens
Another thread from the basment.
I've had this lens twice (both versions) and sold it twice...and now I am wishing I had it again...
Dad by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Zeiss Ikon ZM, Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron VM, Kodak Tri-X 400, Rodinal 1:50
Barrels & Wood by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Zeiss Ikon ZM, Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron VM, Kodak Tri-X 400, Rodinal 1:50
Dad by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Zeiss Ikon ZM, Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron VM, Kodak T-Max 100, Rodinal 1:50
Dad by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Zeiss Ikon ZM, Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron VM, Kodak T-Max 100, Rodinal 1:50
Jordan by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Zeiss Ikon ZM, Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron VM, Kodak Portra 400
I've had this lens twice (both versions) and sold it twice...and now I am wishing I had it again...
Dad by Jim Fischer, on FlickrZeiss Ikon ZM, Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron VM, Kodak Tri-X 400, Rodinal 1:50
Barrels & Wood by Jim Fischer, on FlickrZeiss Ikon ZM, Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron VM, Kodak Tri-X 400, Rodinal 1:50
Dad by Jim Fischer, on FlickrZeiss Ikon ZM, Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron VM, Kodak T-Max 100, Rodinal 1:50
Dad by Jim Fischer, on FlickrZeiss Ikon ZM, Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron VM, Kodak T-Max 100, Rodinal 1:50
Jordan by Jim Fischer, on FlickrZeiss Ikon ZM, Voigtlander 35mm f/2 Ultron VM, Kodak Portra 400
Jan 18, 2024 at 03:33 PM