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The wind was really strong towards sunset so I decided to do one exposure stack and stay at ISO 100 and f9 to average up the blur into something a little more impressionistic.

Gyeongju by Nate Derrick, on Flickr

The rest of my last trip here in Korea are pretty standard ha.

Woljeonggyo Bridge by Nate Derrick, on Flickr

Gyeongju by Nate Derrick, on Flickr

Busan at Night by Nate Derrick, on Flickr

Gyeongju by Nate Derrick, on Flickr




May 25, 2020 at 12:39 AM
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p.25 #2 · Sigma 35mm f/1.2 Art E Mount Lens Image Thread


I'm not a street photographer - this was captured purely by accident. a7r iv.







May 31, 2020 at 06:19 PM
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p.25 #3 · Sigma 35mm f/1.2 Art E Mount Lens Image Thread


How does the Sony Zeiss 1.4 compare to the Sigma 1.2?


Jun 09, 2020 at 10:57 PM
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stuuke wrote:
How does the Sony Zeiss 1.4 compare to the Sigma 1.2?


From what I've read, the only (obviously aside from size/weight) redeeming quality of Sony can be its bokeh, as people seem to really like its smoothness (but Sigma is also very good in this regard). I think everything other related to picture IQ like uniform sharpness across the frame, aberrations, etc. are better on Sigma.



Jun 10, 2020 at 04:43 AM
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saxguy wrote:
I'm not a street photographer - this was captured purely by accident. a7r iv.


I need to try Sigma for street, but to be honest I find something like Samyang 45mm f1.8 more fitting for that purpose .



Jun 10, 2020 at 04:44 AM
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p.25 #6 · Sigma 35mm f/1.2 Art E Mount Lens Image Thread


Here are a few images I recently posted in the Sony FE images thread:

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kQFRqzF/0/70aeb27b/X3/i-kQFRqzF-X3.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SQHS9Sx/0/eb740897/X3/i-SQHS9Sx-X3.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Nb2r86R/0/a5fa8156/X3/i-Nb2r86R-X3.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DS7NDzc/0/c2fcdadf/X3/i-DS7NDzc-X3.jpg



Jun 10, 2020 at 09:50 AM
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One of my first shots with this lens the day I got it. I'm in love!







Jun 10, 2020 at 05:23 PM
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I need to start shooting more. This year has just been awful.



Boardwalk on the Bird Trail by David Arbogast, on Flickr


Beneath the Boughs by David Arbogast, on Flickr




Jun 14, 2020 at 01:42 AM
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darbo wrote:
I need to start shooting more. This year has just been awful.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49892792456_6f60fb9d2c_h.jpg
Boardwalk on the Bird Trail by David Arbogast, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49896472602_c5aa1a4ebf_h.jpg
Beneath the Boughs by David Arbogast, on Flickr



That second pic is bordering on perfection imo

Well done 👍



Jun 14, 2020 at 03:38 AM
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darbo wrote:
I need to start shooting more. This year has just been awful.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49892792456_6f60fb9d2c_h.jpg
Boardwalk on the Bird Trail by David Arbogast, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49896472602_c5aa1a4ebf_h.jpg
Beneath the Boughs by David Arbogast, on Flickr



Hi David! Great shots -- what camera are you using there?



Jun 14, 2020 at 07:31 AM
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Crosspost from FE images thread.
Due to reviewing lenses I often use a lens that I still need to review instead of the lens I would actually prefer to use.

This was one of the lucky moments where I had no other lens to review in this focal length range and therefore could use the Sigma 35mm 1.2 Art


Cyber Lights by BastianK



Jun 14, 2020 at 08:48 AM
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j4nu wrote:
From what I've read, the only (obviously aside from size/weight) redeeming quality of Sony can be its bokeh, as people seem to really like its smoothness (but Sigma is also very good in this regard). I think everything other related to picture IQ like uniform sharpness across the frame, aberrations, etc. are better on Sigma.


I think the Sony 35 1.4 ZA gets a bad rap around here because it isn't technically excellent (in terms of corner sharpness, CA correction, onion skin bokeh balls, and copy to copy variation), but the truth of the matter is that it makes very beautiful images more often than not. Color saturation is good. Center sharpness is outstanding. Contrast is good. Bokeh is smooth (real bokeh, not bokeh ball bokeh, which I think is a special case and, IMHO, somewhat hackneyed).

Many people around here love the Voigtlander 40 1.2 and 50 1.2, which have a large amount of glow wide open near focus and which have relatively severe LoCA, because they make soulful images.

I think the ZA is somewhat similar. It isn't technically perfect, and it is certainly overpriced for what it is, but it is capable of making beautiful images. If you can get a decent copy (look for copies tested by the seller on the buy and sell forum) at a fair price I think it is an excellent choice for a 35 1.4 with AF on the Sony body.

The images that I have seen from the Sigma 1.2 look technically "perfect" to me, but they have a "commercial" feel to them that I find somewhat off putting. Kind of "plasticy", "artificial", "unnatural", "too sharp". They are the opposite of what I can only describe as "organic". This might be perfect for commercial work or landscapes, but I, personally, don't find it to be a particularly appealing aesthetic. YMMV.

There is more to a lens than a spectacular MTF curve, corner to corner sharpness wide open, high contrast, and smooth bokeh. IMHO, modern day super sharp, super corrected lenses are outstanding for making technically correct images, but they are completely unnecessary to make (and in some ways get in the way of making) "art". Look at the color work of Saul Leiter, Ernst Haas, Fred Herzog and other similar photographers to get an idea of what I'm talking about. Then again, not everyone is trying to make "art".

So there is no real "best lens". Depends on what you are shooting for and your particular aesthetic sensibility.




Jun 14, 2020 at 10:21 AM
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lunar module wrote:
I think the Sony 35 1.4 ZA gets a bad rap around here because it isn't technically excellent (in terms of corner sharpness, CA correction, onion skin bokeh balls, and copy to copy variation), but the truth of the matter is that it makes very beautiful images more often than not. Color saturation is good. Center sharpness is outstanding. Contrast is good. Bokeh is smooth (real bokeh, not bokeh ball bokeh, which I think is a special case and, IMHO, somewhat hackneyed).

Many people around here love the Voigtlander 40 1.2 and 50 1.2, which have a large amount
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I have used quite much of my quarantine time to look at how different lenses render depth in landscapes and how they render images with people.

And as you say, some does better in general than others. I have found that some lenses no matter photographer just makes people in those images look better (yes of course one can take lousy images with any camera/lens combo so who shot it do matter). But what I mean is that for some lenses one can find in average more good looking images than for other lenses when it comes to how life like the rendering is and how much depth they transmit.

My current conclusion is that lenses with fewer lens elements in general do a more organic rendering than the ones with more lens elements, since those often seem to have a flat rendering of both the person and background like it is a paper figure in front of an poster background (exaggerated description maybe to try to visualize the point). Also in landscapes the same thing can be seen.

The difference might also be that lenses with less elements have more barrel distortion. And also lenses that aren't too big in diameter do better with rendering a look that makes people feel more alive. Maybe that is due to introduction of more vignetting in all forms.

On my Sony/Zeiss 35/1.4 I at times in some portraits like to turn off corrections and if the vignetting is to heavy just lift the corners manually somewhat. So it can also be the profiles that destroys some renderings.

Or maybe I am just seeing the result I search for too prove my theory.



Jun 14, 2020 at 11:10 AM
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lunar module wrote:
I think the Sony 35 1.4 ZA gets a bad rap around here because it isn't technically excellent (in terms of corner sharpness, CA correction, onion skin bokeh balls, and copy to copy variation), but the truth of the matter is that it makes very beautiful images more often than not. Color saturation is good. Center sharpness is outstanding. Contrast is good. Bokeh is smooth (real bokeh, not bokeh ball bokeh, which I think is a special case and, IMHO, somewhat hackneyed).

Many people around here love the Voigtlander 40 1.2 and 50 1.2, which have a large amount
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Yes, I meant the technical qualities of the lens, that can be measured... Other things can be subjective or intangible, the whole "character" vs "flaw" discussion, etc. so indeed it's hard to find "the best" lens .



Jun 14, 2020 at 12:15 PM
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Gunzorro wrote:
Hi David! Great shots -- what camera are you using there?


Thanks Jim! Still using the a7R II. Every year I think I’m going to upgrade, but end up deciding to wait. My next camera will probably end up being the a7R 7.



Jun 14, 2020 at 01:35 PM
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lunar module wrote:
I think the Sony 35 1.4 ZA gets a bad rap around here because it isn't technically excellent (in terms of corner sharpness, CA correction, onion skin bokeh balls, and copy to copy variation), but the truth of the matter is that it makes very beautiful images more often than not. Color saturation is good. Center sharpness is outstanding. Contrast is good. Bokeh is smooth (real bokeh, not bokeh ball bokeh, which I think is a special case and, IMHO, somewhat hackneyed).

Many people around here love the Voigtlander 40 1.2 and 50 1.2, which have a large amount
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Totally get where you're coming from. However, for me, the copies of the Sony/Zeiss I had were just very poor outside of a very small window of shooting (subject within several feet and pretty centered). Outside of said parameter (especially for environmental shots with the subject outside of center frame), I regularly wondered whether the copies I had were malfunctioning with regard to AF or some other optical issue as the resolution was just that low on my subjects. As stated previously, I would often have to scroll around the shot to see if there was another unintended area that was in focus to make sure I didn't just miss focus on my subject.

When the Sony/Zeiss was used within the parameters that worked well for me, it was stunning and I loved the look. But beyond that, it was pretty much on par or worse than my Canon 35Lmk1.

I definitely know/agree with what you're referring to with regard to the "commercial" look that many modern lenses produce (to include the Sigma 35/1.2). Personally though, I already have plenty of character lenses (7Artisans, Contax/Zeiss, plethora of old Russian lenses of different names, Takumars, etc) in various focal lengths and 35 is one of those where I at least want one option in the arsenal that is capable of producing the best (or close to) technical IQ I can get. I can always dial back IQ in post but I can't bring it back when it isn't there which is where I often found myself with the Sony/Zeiss 35.

All that being said, if I could've been promised a good copy that performed better across the focal distance range and with subjects further away from center, I'd probably still have a Sony/Zeiss 35 today.

On another note, some shots to share (interestingly enough, with LR lens corrections turned off).

Sigma 35/1.2 by Johndizzo15, on Flickr
Sigma 35/1.2 FE by Johndizzo15, on Flickr
Sigma 35/1.2 FE by Johndizzo15, on Flickr
Cleaning up = shoving everything to the edge by Johndizzo15, on Flickr
Sigma 35/1.2 FE by Johndizzo15, on Flickr



Jun 14, 2020 at 01:58 PM
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Several from this evening.

Sigma 35/1.2 FE by Johndizzo15, on Flickr
Sigma 35/1.2 FE by Johndizzo15, on Flickr
Sigma 35/1.2 FE by Johndizzo15, on Flickr
Sigma 35/1.2 FE by Johndizzo15, on Flickr



Jun 15, 2020 at 12:18 AM
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Enjoying her new pool this weekend







Jun 15, 2020 at 08:01 PM
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All of these images make me really, really want this lens!


Jun 15, 2020 at 10:23 PM
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mourningshadow wrote:
Enjoying her new pool this weekend


Wow, impressive! I see I need to seriously skill up to take similar pictures of my kids .



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