p.5 #1 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
Gunzorro wrote:
Perhaps you are right, but we will just have to wait and see if the market has turned a corner and maybe now a version of mirrorless-designed lenses will be able to be shot on Canon EF, R or Sony via MC-11 adapter.
No it won't. This lens design's rear element is where a mirror is in a DSLR camera.
Geometrically impossible, market can make whatever turn, won't change that fact.
p.5 #2 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
BastianK wrote:
No it won't. This lens design's rear element is where a mirror is in a DSLR camera.
Geometrically impossible, market can make whatever turn, won't change that fact.
Thanks, Bastian, I see that.
I only have five Sony-only lenses: 12-24G, 24-105G, Loxia 21, 35, and 50. Most of my lenses are Canon mount and mostly used with MC-11 on Sony these days. But I do not wish to lose that versatility unless the lens is really, really amazing as Sony-only. It would be more likely that the new 35 Art will be made in Canon R and Nikon Z mounts, and Canon R (high MP) is probably the direction I will steer, along with Sony FF.
Never give up hope, as the indepenent manufacturers want to sell as many units as possible across platforms.
p.5 #3 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
Gunzorro wrote:
Thanks, Bastian, I see that.
I only have five Sony-only lenses: 12-24G, 24-105G, Loxia 21, 35, and 50. Most of my lenses are Canon mount and mostly used with MC-11 on Sony these days, but I do not wish to loose that versatility unless the lens is really, really amazing on Sony only. It would be more likely that the new 35 Art will be made in Canon R and Nikon Z mounts, and Canon R (high MP) is probably the direction I will steer, along with Sony FF.
Never give up hope, as the indepenent manufacturers want to sell as many units as possible across platforms.
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No need to tell me about flexibility of EF-mount, I currently have 4 Canon EF lenses + 1 TC, for no other mount I have as many lenses
p.5 #4 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
First of all, thanks for the review, Bastian. It's not a lens that interests me, but your review of the capabilities is interesting reading.
As to the current bent of the conversation, if I ran Sigma, I'd be willing to let Canon and Nikon prop themselves up until they're willing to follow the rest of the mirrorless market's example and share mount specs and impactful firmware updates so their lenses can consistently interoperate with the cameras. They've spent decades treating the third parties like hangers-on who moved into their guest houses and refuse to leave when they know the overall market is healthier with the presence of the third-parties. Right now, it seems both petty and suicidal not to share, given that everyone is struggling to reinvigorate the market.
p.5 #5 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
Have looked at the updated review with infinity crops etc. Still looking like an amazing piece of glass. The corner performance at f1.2 is stunning, although other than for astro I couldn't imagine ever shooting it wide open and caring about razor sharp corners.
Sorely tempted by this lens. I was keen on the Sony 35/1.8 but this looks like a winner and Sony haven't even announced availability for the 35 here yet so...
p.5 #6 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
Hey ! Just received mine today, so far it's a great rendering lens. I like the smooth 3D pop rendering more than my Canon 35 1.4, Nikon 35 1.4 and Sigma 35 1.4.
Can't wait to use it on a model shoot
Just one info no one is talking about -> the lens hood has a lock button and a rubber structure on half the outside bottom and it's a dust collector ! I hate it. One hour of playing with it and it's already glued by dust T_T
p.5 #7 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
jefonyx wrote:
Just one info no one is talking about -> the lens hood has a lock button and a rubber structure on half the outside bottom and it's a dust collector ! I hate it. One hour of playing with it and it's already glued by dust T_T
p.5 #9 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
jefonyx wrote:
Hey ! Just received mine today, so far it's a great rendering lens. I like the smooth 3D pop rendering more than my Canon 35 1.4, Nikon 35 1.4 and Sigma 35 1.4.
Can't wait to use it on a model shoot
Just one info no one is talking about -> the lens hood has a lock button and a rubber structure on half the outside bottom and it's a dust collector ! I hate it. One hour of playing with it and it's already glued by dust T_T
The hood is identical to that on the sigma 40mm art. I think this is the new style. I quite like the lock button.
p.5 #13 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
Agree that the corner performance at wide apertures is really outstanding. The coma performance isn't half bad in the extreme corners either. I can't see wanting to carry this lens into the field over my 24 1.4 GM though so I'm not sure these applications are my use case. Environmental portraits and event work would be. The idea of being able to punch into a 52.5mm f1.8 aps-c crop mode frame broadens the appeal. The longer I fiddle with this hobby, the more I am attracted to extreme glass. Tools that will set my work apart from so many others. I also like the idea of knowing that it's my talent (or lack thereof) that is making the difference. Never the tech.
I think this lens will be very hard to beat for a long time to come.
Here's a link to a size comparison. Looks to be close to the length of the 135 and 140 grams heavier.
Maybe I'm stronger than average, but I don't find the 135 to be big or particularly heavy in the hand. I'm mindful of how weight can add up quickly in the bag though.
Aztatlan wrote:
Have looked at the updated review with infinity crops etc. Still looking like an amazing piece of glass. The corner performance at f1.2 is stunning, although other than for astro I couldn't imagine ever shooting it wide open and caring about razor sharp corners.
Sorely tempted by this lens. I was keen on the Sony 35/1.8 but this looks like a winner and Sony haven't even announced availability for the 35 here yet so...
p.5 #15 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
Justin Stone wrote:
Agree that the corner performance at wide apertures is really outstanding. The coma performance isn't half bad in the extreme corners either. I can't see wanting to carry this lens into the field over my 24 1.4 GM though so I'm not sure these applications are my use case. Environmental portraits and event work would be. The idea of being able to punch into a 52.5mm f1.8 aps-c crop mode frame broadens the appeal. The longer I fiddle with this hobby, the more I am attracted to extreme glass. Tools that will set my work apart from so many others. I also like the idea of knowing that it's my talent (or lack thereof) that is making the difference. Never the tech.
I think this lens will be very hard to beat for a long time to come.
Well, this is not going to be the only f/1.2 Sigma is going to make. I would like at least one big aperture Sigma prime, just that 35 ain't it. It's interesting that Sigma is actually releasing 3 lenses that this system needs, not duplicate of any.
p.5 #16 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
Justin Stone wrote:
Agree that the corner performance at wide apertures is really outstanding. The coma performance isn't half bad in the extreme corners either. I can't see wanting to carry this lens into the field over my 24 1.4 GM though so I'm not sure these applications are my use case. Environmental portraits and event work would be. The idea of being able to punch into a 52.5mm f1.8 aps-c crop mode frame broadens the appeal. The longer I fiddle with this hobby, the more I am attracted to extreme glass. Tools that will set my work apart from so many others. I also like the idea of knowing that it's my talent (or lack thereof) that is making the difference. Never the tech.
I think this lens will be very hard to beat for a long time to come.
I've been saying this for a long time. I've been doing this 43 years and to keep that going you got to separate yourself from the crowd by number 1 your talent and abilities but having unique gear or better than your competition can help as well. Not saying it does but not going to hurt you either. Bottom line the more confident you feel no matter how you get there is the key. If gear helps in that way great. For me it it actually keeps me doing this. How many people are in the same job 43 years . So for me gear helps that interest from getting bored to tears. But if it helps someone feel better think there better and be more confident than that is awesome. This really is all about what's between your ears. Whatever works do it
p.5 #17 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
bjornthun wrote:
How is the programming of the buttons done, is it the same way as for Sony lenses with an AF hold button, i.e. from the camera?
Yes exactly. Whatever you map to the "Focus Hold Button" in the menu of your camera this button will do for you.
p.5 #18 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
I try to keep the updates coming (there has been one almost every day, so worth checking back from time to time) and today I added sharpness close, focus shift and loCA close sections.
Focus shift (at minimum focus distance) is quite interesting:
On stopping down to f/2.0 it shifts a bit towards the camera, on stopping down to f/2.8 it shifts away from the camera again.
Not sure I have seen that behaviour in a lens yet and usually it shifts to the back on stopping down, not to the front.
It is hardly field relevant though, the subject does not drop out of the focal plane and people will most likely use this lens at working aperture.
At anything but mfd this is completely meaningless anyway.
So best see it as a sidenote by someone who has reviewed way too many lenses and just found something unusual
p.5 #19 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
Thank you again. I got more information from review like yours. You pretty much write all I want to know in term of lens build handling and performance and I usually do some of these test myself for any lenses I used, not as thorough as you did for sure but it is very important to use any lens wise IMHO.
p.5 #20 · Sigma 35/1.2 Art E-mount rolling review at phillipreeve.net
Managed to convince my gf to pose a bit for me during blue hour today.
Blue hour portraits with city lights in the background are one of the main reasons I like fast lenses like this.
