He says that setting the camera to AF, then halfpressing the shutter while focusing manually would make the AF field turn green as soon as focus is achieved.
The translation is a bit weird, as it says:
"I use the ETZ Sony E to Nikon Z autofocus ring, and then use the second automatic adapter ring to transfer the Sony E to any bayonet,
Then the machine will determine that the AF lens is connected. If my body is set to AFS or AFC mode,
Pressing the shutter halfway to manually focus will activate the auto focus detection of the camera body, and the frame of the focus point will change from red to green when focus is achieved."
I'm not sure if the "second automatic adapter ring" refers to an adapter that needs to have a chip as well, or if it's possible to go the simplest route.
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p.14 #4 · TZE-01 Owners Unite! Images/Evaluation Data for Techart Sony E > Nikon Z Autofocus Adapter / image picture pictu
mbphoto_2.8 wrote:
Did any of you do any tests with vintage lenses on adapters to Sony E mount?
Does the camera (Z6) confirm achieved focus, when you use an old lens with plain adapter on the AF adapter here?
He says that setting the camera to AF, then halfpressing the shutter while focusing manually would make the AF field turn green as soon as focus is achieved.
The translation is a bit weird, as it says:
"I use the ETZ Sony E to Nikon Z autofocus ring, and then use the second automatic adapter ring to transfer the Sony E to any bayonet,
Then the machine will determine that the AF lens is connected. If my body is set to AFS or AFC mode,
Pressing the shutter halfway to manually focus will activate the auto focus detection of the camera body, and the frame of the focus point will change from red to green when focus is achieved."
I'm not sure if the "second automatic adapter ring" refers to an adapter that needs to have a chip as well, or if it's possible to go the simplest route. ...Show more →
You need a lens to E mount chipped adapter or an E mount lens with electronic contacts to get the green box lighting up for focus confirmation. If the E mount lens adapted or not does not have electronic contacts that are working, then you won't get the box lighting up for focus confirmation.
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keithf wrote:
Are you having issue with the IBIS with the V21 F1.4? I am planning to get soon. I have the TZE adapter with the Voigtlander 110 F2.5.
thanks
The issues with the Voigtlander 21 f/1.4 E mount and IBIS are severe. As I reported earlier in the thread when I did tests with this lens, it is no better (and perhaps a bit worse) with IBIS on than with IBIS turned off. The adapter still works for focus confirmation and so that you can reach infinity focus, but when I use it with the Voigt 21 f/1.4 I actually turn IBIS off. You are just as well off with a cheap dumb adapter with this lens if you care about IBIS. The IBIS works fine with the lens on a dumb adapter, but of course you lose focus confirmation with the dumb adapter.
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Thanks Steve. I have no interested to buy a dumb adapter. I want the focus confirmation instead. 21mm, I don't need IBIS. What version of the adapter firmware you have? There are people from Taiwan and China saying the Techart TZM-01 autofocus is coming soon. Techart disabled the TZE-01 to work with Techart Pro auto focus(M to E) to plan for the TZM. I only have 2 M mount lens, Voigtlander 15 F4.5 and Voigtlander 50 F1.2. Worse case, I will switch my 50 F1.2 to the new 50 F1.2 SE E mount when it available. I can shoot way faster with the focus confirmation than enlargement. My 85 F1.4 AF-D, 105 DC F2 and Voigtlander 110 f2.5 work wonderfully with focus confirmation.
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p.14 #7 · TZE-01 Owners Unite! Images/Evaluation Data for Techart Sony E > Nikon Z Autofocus Adapter / image picture pictu
keithf wrote:
Thanks Steve. I have no interested to buy a dumb adapter. I want the focus confirmation instead. 21mm, I don't need IBIS. What version of the adapter firmware you have? There are people from Taiwan and China saying the Techart TZM-01 autofocus is coming soon. Techart disabled the TZE-01 to work with Techart Pro auto focus(M to E) to plan for the TZM. I only have 2 M mount lens, Voigtlander 15 F4.5 and Voigtlander 50 F1.2. Worse case, I will switch my 50 F1.2 to the new 50 F1.2 SE E mount when it available. I can shoot way faster with the focus confirmation than enlargement. My 85 F1.4 AF-D, 105 DC F2 and Voigtlander 110 f2.5 work wonderfully with focus confirmation. ...Show more →
I assume you use the FTZ for your 85 f/1.4 AF-D and 105 f/2 DC. Is that right? Englargement works with some subjects better than others. I find surprisingly, it works well with portraits. Put the focus square at the rule fo thirds point (or where you want to compose to get the eye where you want). Zoom in and make sure the eye is sharp and close to the center of the new magnified image. Take the picture and voila you have a very nicely composed image without having to leave magnification. Of course this works a lot better the less your subject is moving, but I find it even works well for my active young child and even worked pretty well when he was a toddler. Perhaps not for everyone, but it works for me.
p.14 #8 · TZE-01 Owners Unite! Images/Evaluation Data for Techart Sony E > Nikon Z Autofocus Adapter / image picture pictu
Thanks Steve for he tips again.
The 85 F1.4, 105 DC F2 with the FTZ, and Voigtlander 110 F2.5 with Techart TZE-01. I don't see any different. The green focus confirmation works perfectly with all 3 lens, also with my old Sigma 150 F2.8 macro F Mount. It basically work same as the AF, now the motor is your fingers.
I have been shooting with the Mitakon 35 F0.95 with Fuji X-T2 for few years. I have no issue with Peaking / Enlarging for focusing.
But with all three methods for focusing, green focus confirmation give me the faster and accurate. It's all my personal experience. Some people will find other works better. Good to have different choices.
p.14 #9 · TZE-01 Owners Unite! Images/Evaluation Data for Techart Sony E > Nikon Z Autofocus Adapter / image picture pictu
So, what I can take away from this:
To make use of the green AF square confirming manual focus when using my vintage Leica R lenses, and some m42 lenses
- you need the TZE-01 adapter in general.
- you then need a chipped adapter for these old lens mounts to adapt them to Sony E mount
Is that correct?
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mbphoto_2.8 wrote:
So, what I can take away from this:
To make use of the green AF square confirming manual focus when using my vintage Leica R lenses, and some m42 lenses
- you need the TZE-01 adapter in general.
- you then need a chipped adapter for these old lens mounts to adapt them to Sony E mount
Is that correct?
I do not believe there are any adapters for Sony E mount with electronic contacts for Leica R or m42. I think your only hope of getting this to work would be three adapters. You would need a chipped adapter to Canon EF mount, either the metabones or Sigma MC-11 adapter to Sony E mount with electronics, and then the TZE-01 to adapt to Nikon Z mount. I have no idea if this would work. It might, but it is probably more likely that it won't.
You might be able to get the same thing with a chipped adapter to Nikon F mount, and the Nikon FTZ adapter rather than the TZE-01. That would be a more direct way and I think it is more likely to work, although there are no guarantees. For SLR glass a chipped adapter to Nikon F plus the FTZ is probably the better way to go.
For Leica R glass I would consult the people at Leitax.com. A mount conversion to F-mount for most Leica R glass is possible and you can often add a chip to that mount conversion. The people at Leitax should be able to tel you if a lens with such a chipped mount conversion would work with a Z camera and the FTZ to light up the green box.
Page 1, Post 363, focus confirmation for M42 lens, two smart adapters (TZE-01, LM-E/other smart adapter , dumb adapter to M42 mount). So, total 3 adapters.
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I found that Dandelion chipped lenses on the FTZ perform similarly to the TZE adapter. It’s why we suspect that the TZE is emulating an FTZ, not a native lens directly. See this post:
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mbphoto_2.8 wrote:
Can I use the lens with that adapter, then use a chipped adapter from Canon EF to Sony E and then use the Techart TZE-01?
Sorry, I didn't see your question.
According to Mark1008, as long as the second adapter is chipped adapter, it will enable the focus confirmation.
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p.14 #16 · TZE-01 Owners Unite! Images/Evaluation Data for Techart Sony E > Nikon Z Autofocus Adapter / image picture pictu
mbphoto_2.8 wrote:
mount conversion is not an option, I'm afraid. I still have and use a Leica R5 (bought it in mint conditions a few years ago).
I don't fully understand the translation of post 363, keith. Could you elaborate?
Would this work then:
I have chipped lens adapters for Leica, M42, and many others to Canon EF (that's how I used the focus confirmation on my Canon DSLR so far).
Can I use the lens with that adapter, then use a chipped adapter from Canon EF to Sony E and then use the Techart TZE-01?
Since Nikon F flange is soo long, I cannot use an FTZ adapter, I'm afraid.....Show more →
I think your best option is still a chipped Leica R to Nikon F adapter and the FTZ adapter with a dandelion chip to set the focal length and max aperture. With this approach you only need the two adapters and I believe the IBIS will work better.
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johnvanatta wrote:
I found that Dandelion chipped lenses on the FTZ perform similarly to the TZE adapter. It’s why we suspect that the TZE is emulating an FTZ, not a native lens directly. See this post:
For Leica R your best bet is Leitax + Dandelion on an FTZ. If the dandelion is programmed correctly, that’ll give green box confirmation.
Is this the best? In the thread, you said the IBIS doesn't work with Dandelion chip.
- The big, bad news. IBIS doesn't work, or doesn't work very well, with the Dandelion enabled. I can't tell if turning it on offers any improvement over IBIS disabled completely, but it definitely doesn't work as well as unchipped. It's quite obvious in the viewfinder with a 180mm lens.
If I have the M42 mount lens, and the chipped M42 adapter to EF mount. I would buy the Fringer EF-NZ smart adapter to try it out. I actually may get the Fringer EF-NZ adapter because I want the Canon T/S lens.
p.14 #18 · TZE-01 Owners Unite! Images/Evaluation Data for Techart Sony E > Nikon Z Autofocus Adapter / image picture pictu
Yeah, IBIS with a Dandelion doesn’t work right, just as IBIS on the TZE doesn’t work right. I suspect, but have not tested, that it’s the same issue where 50mm is always getting used.
Except for ~50mm lenses, I don’t think anyone has gotten focus confirmation and IBIS simultaneously with a dumb lens. I don’t know if anyone has tested Canon EF adapters yet though. I don’t have reason to believe they’ll do any better.
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Here is the testing for Fringer EF-NZ for Nikon Z camera. Total 33 Pages, closed to 1K posts.
To solved the Nikon FTZ with old Nikon Ai lens issue. People there used Fringer EF-NZ + Nikon F-EF, it will have focus confirmation. I have no Nikon Ai lens, so I did not know the FTZ did not provide focus confirmation for the Nikon Ai lens.
Focus confirmation also with for M42 screw lens, Fringer EF-NZ + M42-EF adapter stacks.
Also DX lens attached will not auto cropping on Z camera with Fringer EF-NZ.
p.14 #20 · TZE-01 Owners Unite! Images/Evaluation Data for Techart Sony E > Nikon Z Autofocus Adapter / image picture pictu
I wish they would fix the ibis issue, or open source the firmware so I could I fix it my self!
I was trying to hold off on any new cameras until the Nikon Z pro body came out. But lately I have been running into some quirks / issues with my a7rII. If this adapter worked well I would probably just jump back to fully Nikon, most of my E mount lenses are MF anyway. But without full electronic controls for E lenses on Z mount, a big part of me thinks I am better off with a a7riii / a7riv for now. (I can't see fully ditching my E lenses those CV lenses are just to nice)
