Wow the lack of color noise 25600 is impressive especially considering it’s cropped in
la puffin wrote:
I only turned on IBIS to test if it worked, and it did. I promptly turned it off. I had hunting issues shooting grapes, which is not really tricky for AF
http://www.shoaps.com/samples/z-004.jpg
ISO 25600. Opened in NX-D, then sent to PS. Shot RAW but picked up camera settings for Normal NR. Generous crop.
Did anyone here tried this Z6 with SB910. When I turned on the SB910, the exposure on screen changed dramatically, like it show the exposure with flash.
tek9 wrote:
Wondering what you're doing differently, la puffin. I'm not getting any hunting issues (even in the low light situations). AF-S is spot on.
I think AF-S with Single Point is "somewhat" better than AF-C. I mainly shoot things that move, and I'm getting a sore thumb hammering on that BBF button.
nhat179 wrote:
Did anyone here tried this Z6 with SB910. When I turned on the SB910, the exposure on screen changed dramatically, like it show the exposure with flash.
I think it happens because when you switch the flash on the camera automatically goes to whatever you have set in E2 (flash shutter speed). 1/60s by default.
nhat179 wrote:
Did anyone here tried this Z6 with SB910. When I turned on the SB910, the exposure on screen changed dramatically, like it show the exposure with flash.
Did you try switching custom setting d8 (apply settings to live view) to off?
My expectations or situations may be less demanding but focus seems fast and accurate with my Z6/24-70 combo. I was getting barked at over a toy here with shaking head but kept nailing eye focus (IMO) in AF-C.
(was locking on right eye)
Shot two-roof of mouth (yes, she chews on too many rocks lol)
cvrle59 wrote:
I took a hand held shot yesterday with Z6 and 24-70mm F4S at F8 ISO100, 1/100, IBIS on, something I’ve done so many times, with D800 and 20mm F1.8 with no VR control at all.
Being disappointed with that image because it didn’t look sharp at all, I’ve done some testing today.
First, electronic shutter on, then I changed shutter speed taking two shots, one with IBIS, and one without IBIS.
I was always getting better results with IBIS on, until I hit 1/200 and faster, where things got very similar between two.
Then I switched to mechanical shutter, and I was surprised, what I found.
SS 1/25 – sharper with IBIS
SS 1/60 – sharper without IBIS
SS 1/100 –sharper without IBIS
SS 1/125 - Sharper without IBIS
SS 1/200 - Very similar with or without
SS 1/400 - Very similar with or without
This is not any kind of scientific test, but I repeated the same thing at least 10 times at 1/60, 1/100 and 1/125 SS. Images without IBIS were sharper every time (all hand held).
I’m wondering if anyone else experienced this kind of situation on Z6 or Z7, yet?
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Just to continue on... I went to the local store, where I purchased my Z6.
We shot with Z7 and different Z6 with different 24-70mm f4S, at F4, 1/100 and auto ISO.
One shot would be with, and one without IBIS, so we were always getting sharper images with IBIS turned off.
This seems to be a shutter/IBIS issue, in general, not only on my canera, so my dealer is going to notify Nikon about it.
cvrle59 wrote:
Just to continue on... I went to the local store, where I purchased my Z6.
We shot with Z7 and different Z6 with different 24-70mm f4S, at F4, 1/100 and auto ISO.
One shot would be with, and one without IBIS, so we were always getting sharper images with IBIS turned off.
This seems to be a shutter/IBIS issue, in general, not only on my canera, so my dealer is going to notify Nikon about it.
I'm wondering if it's shutter shock. Did you try to replicate it with 'Electronic Front-Curtain Shutter' (d5) on and off?
tek9 wrote:
I'm wondering if it's shutter shock. Did you try to replicate it with 'Electronic Front-Curtain Shutter' (d5) on and off?
No it doesn't replicate, actually, electronic shutter looks better with IBIS.
This is an easy test, I would be interested to heare if anyone else experiences the same.
I like camera a lot, so far, but this brothers me quite a bit.
IBIS is supposed to make it better, not worse!
One small nitpick I'd like Nikon to address: default to a closed mechanical shutter when the camera is turned off. Offer a menu option to set this as open or closed, for sensor cleaning purposes.
Having the sensor exposed when changing lenses offers too many chances for dust or other problems. Surely this can be addressed in future firmware.
I have never been convinced that having the shutter closed when changing lenses is going to make a big difference in dust on the sensor. If dust gets into the sensor chamber and lands on the shutter, it is going to get thrown around the chamber when the shutter is activated. This will happen when a lens is on the camera creating a closed sensor space with flying dust. The dust will likely still end up on the sensor.
What is needed is a way to keep it of of the sensor chamber entirely.
cvrle59 wrote:
No it doesn't replicate, actually, electronic shutter looks better with IBIS.
This is an easy test, I would be interested to heare if anyone else experiences the same.
I like camera a lot, so far, but this brothers me quite a bit.
IBIS is supposed to make it better, not worse!
tek9 wrote:
I think it happens because when you switch the flash on the camera automatically goes to whatever you have set in E2 (flash shutter speed). 1/60s by default.
I think that is the case, even my shutter is at 1/160 it still displayed super over expose. Anyway to go around this?
Just got my Z6 earlier today. Overall my impressions are positive. The camera feels very good in hand and familiar as a Nikon user. Snapbridge works great now, was very easy getting a picture onto my phone to share. I like how large and bright the EVF is compared to the OVFs on DSLRs. I also like the customizable i-button configuration, I feel that I can put the settings that are important to me in an easy to reach spot. That said, I do wish some areas were more customizable, for example I would like to configure the AF-ON and joystick button to different AF modes like my D500.
Just a few thoughts after some quick autofocus testing for low light indoors.
1.) Generally the low light wasn't a problem as long as the target has some decent contrast. Without the contrast the camera does hunt which can feel frustrating. I am still getting a sense for what it can and can't do but I think it'll be fine for regular shooting.
2.) When it can't lock I think a large part of why it is frustrating has to do with the EVF. That may sound strange but what I mean by that is the subject looks quite bright in the EVF. Bright enough that you can focus on it with your own eyes and can see it cycle in and out of focus as the lens adjusts but get frustrated the camera cannot lock. I tried the same subjects with my DSLRs (D600 & D500) and the OVFs were significantly darker than the EVF and I felt like I could understand why it couldn't lock since my eyes had a hard time focusing through the OVF too. Same end result, just more frustrating with the clear EVF.
Just some quick thoughts. I am looking forward to actually using it and for more native lenses to come out.
Shot Metallica tonight with the z6 and the 200-400. again not sure where everyones focusing issues are coming from, i took about 1900 images, (normally i dont take that many images, however its hard to tell when to stop the shutter because im not use to seeing the images in the viewfinder, so im adjusting), but out of those 1900, i had maybe 20 out of focus images. literally 20. shooting from about 200-250ft away at the soundboard. this isnt a "really dark" atmosphere, but its considered low light concert photography, and the z6 didnt hunt once, whereas i saw another poster, post about having struggles with focusing on grapes in daylight. Maybe send your camera in, maybe its defective.
exif included in the images below.
Ill post an couple burst sequences in a video later, and the camera locked on with backlighting, and tracked Kirk Hammett do his thing with the crowd.
