Fred Miranda wrote:
Playing with my 35/1.4 Classic...
Fred--Great images. Where is the set of sunflower photos you recently posted, taken with 5 or 6 different lenses? I can find it, even after looking a while. That was a very useful series for comparing rendering.
chiron wrote:
Fred--Great images. Where is the set of sunflower photos you recently posted, taken with 5 or 6 different lenses? I can find it, even after looking a while. That was a very useful series for comparing rendering.
Love the rendering, as always. I'll be hunting for something similar in medium format to use on the upcoming Fuji GFX50S. Anyone know one that's suitable?
The 40mm and 50mm seem to strike a good balance between traditional stylish rendering and the showiness the 35/1.4 does, seen so well in Fred's recent images with it. With lenses like the 55/1.8, you often want to push them past their natural tendencies, the two fast CVs have this wide gamut of what is possible and accommodated by the lens.
We see a lot of attention grabbing lens appearing today from camera makers own lines (and many more soon) but few of them seem to have such wide scope. I'd love to see CV do fast short telephoto portrait lenses for FE in the same formula/ergonomics, they make so many lenses with intuitive character. 75/1.8 maybe?
philip_pj wrote:
The 40mm and 50mm seem to strike a good balance between traditional stylish rendering and the showiness the 35/1.4 does, seen so well in Fred's recent images with it. With lenses like the 55/1.8, you often want to push them past their natural tendencies, the two fast CVs have this wide gamut of what is possible and accommodated by the lens.
We see a lot of attention grabbing lens appearing today from camera makers own lines (and many more soon) but few of them seem to have such wide scope. I'd love to see CV do fast short telephoto portrait lenses for FE in the same formula/ergonomics, they make so many lenses with intuitive character. 75/1.8 maybe? ...Show more →
f/1.8 to f/16, 6 elements in 3 groups, same glass as the popular 75/1.8 in Leica M mount, close focus to 1:7.4, filter size 58mm, weight 415 grams, lens hood sold separately, 9 aperture blades.
Announced Feb 12, 2011. Production Undecided.
While Stephen Gandy describes the M-mount version as being not super sharp (as the inclusion of "Classic" in the name suggests), but he also points to a Flickr album by Tom Abrahamsson with some very attractive monochrome samples. I'd be delighted to see this CV project resurrected as a native FE lens.
philip_pj wrote:
The 40mm and 50mm seem to strike a good balance between traditional stylish rendering and the showiness the 35/1.4 does, seen so well in Fred's recent images with it. With lenses like the 55/1.8, you often want to push them past their natural tendencies, the two fast CVs have this wide gamut of what is possible and accommodated by the lens.
We see a lot of attention grabbing lens appearing today from camera makers own lines (and many more soon) but few of them seem to have such wide scope. I'd love to see CV do fast short telephoto portrait lenses for FE in the same formula/ergonomics, they make so many lenses with intuitive character. 75/1.8 maybe? ...Show more →
Hopefully CV will optimize their latest CV 75/1.5 for the E-mount by end of year.
DannyBurkPhoto wrote:
Love the rendering, as always. I'll be hunting for something similar in medium format to use on the upcoming Fuji GFX50S. Anyone know one that's suitable?
Hi Danny,
On the GFX I think you already know and have the lens that looks most like this and I believe it is one of your favorites--the Contax C/Y or Zeiss ZE/ZF 50 f/1.4. For close up images like this it covers the sensor if you us a 4 X 5 aspect ratio and even if you use 4 X 3 you just need to crop a little. That are a lot of older fast 50s for FF 35mm that have this look, but the Zeiss Planar have always been amongst my favorite. The Hassy F 50 f/2.8 will get you close to this angle of view, and has a bit of this look, but that lens isn't as fast and is distagon instead of planar and doesn't really look the same. You can get more of the look at a narrower angle of view and I think your Mamiya 80 f/1.9 might be the best example of that, but there are others as well.
On the GFX I think you already know and have the lens that looks most like this and I believe it is one of your favorites--the Contax C/Y or Zeiss ZE/ZF 50 f/1.4. For close up images like this it covers the sensor if you us a 4 X 5 aspect ratio and even if you use 4 X 3 you just need to crop a little. That are a lot of older fast 50s for FF 35mm that have this look, but the Zeiss Planar have always been amongst my favorite. The Hassy F 50 f/2.8 will get you close to this angle of view, and has a bit of this look, but that lens isn't as fast and is distagon instead of planar and doesn't really look the same. You can get more of the look at a narrower angle of view and I think your Mamiya 80 f/1.9 might be the best example of that, but there are others as well. ...Show more →
Hi Steve - Yes, you're right that those 50 1.4 lenses are my favorites, and in fact I now have both the Contax and ZE versions. I got the Contax only a few months ago, and with this year's terrible weather, I've not had much chance to use it for flowers yet.
I'm glad you brought back this message, though, as there *is* a lens that piques my interest now, and you may be familiar with it. I recently saw a flower closeup, much in the style and lighting that I do mine, with a Hassy 80/2.8 CFE. It looked very much like it was done with the 50 ZE, but in a 6x6 version. I do have the Mamiya 80/1.9, which I like very much, but it doesn't look like the 50 ZE. Do you know anything about the Hassy, and whether it would tend to have this rendering consistently? I can forward a jpg of that photo to you if you'd like to see it. I'd really like to have an 80mm medium format version of the 50, and this one looks to fit the bill...as one might think, given that it's Zeiss and probably has a similar Planar construction (I haven't checked into that). Thanks!
DannyBurkPhoto wrote:
Hi Steve - Yes, you're right that those 50 1.4 lenses are my favorites, and in fact I now have both the Contax and ZE versions. I got the Contax only a few months ago, and with this year's terrible weather, I've not had much chance to use it for flowers yet.
I'm glad you brought back this message, though, as there *is* a lens that piques my interest now, and you may be familiar with it. I recently saw a flower closeup, much in the style and lighting that I do mine, with a Hassy 80/2.8 CFE. It looked very much like it was done with the 50 ZE, but in a 6x6 version. I do have the Mamiya 80/1.9, which I like very much, but it doesn't look like the 50 ZE. Do you know anything about the Hassy, and whether it would tend to have this rendering consistently? I can forward a jpg of that photo to you if you'd like to see it. I'd really like to have an 80mm medium format version of the 50, and this one looks to fit the bill...as one might think, given that it's Zeiss and probably has a similar Planar construction (I haven't checked into that). Thanks!...Show more →
Yes, the Hassy 80mm f/2.8 lenses are Zeiss Planars. They don't have quite as shallow of depth of field as a 50 f/1.4, but they do make a nice 58 f/2 if you crop to 4 X 3 or squarer. I think the one to get is the Hassy F or FE 80 f/2.8. It doesn't have a leaf shutter (which you can't use on the GFX anyway) so it is quite a bit lighter. They all have the same or very similar optical formulas. The newer one the like the CFE probably has better coatings though.
vdo1 wrote:
These are really cool. The new Trioplan hehe. Right now nobody wants it but in 20 years it may become a cult lens. I'll stash a few "new in box" ones
Yes, it's a mix between bubbly and painterly. I like the effect for some subjects but it's only that intense at close distance and wide open.
At f/2, the 35/1.4 Classic behaves very similarly to the Loxia 35/2 wide open and by f/2.8 rendering gets very close to 40/1.2 Nokton.
I was just playing with some files from the Voigtlander 35/1.4 E-mount and with the new 4:3 aspect ratio (A7R4), It's actually sharp the very corners starting at f/5.6! just FYI for those accustomed shooting landscapes using this ratio.
Of course one doesn’t need a A7R4 just for that... cropping can be done in post.
I'm about to pull the trigger on this lens over the 40mm 1.2. Although I love what the 40 can do at close distances for portraits, the 35 comes alive at the mid distances where I find the 40 too sterile. BH has it at $599, $200 off.
I'm thinking my MF kid will be CV 21, CV 35 and Kipon 75mm. Trying to keep it sub 350g per lens.
Now that we have the 1.2 SE, which one would you choose ?
The classic is still quite smaller, 125g lighter, 280€ cheaper.. and a good companion to the 3.5/21 for a small MF kit.
The SE appears to render bokeh a lot smoother at large apertures (but looses this character/impressionistic rendering), and better across the field sharpness closed down (even if the classic looks acceptable there).
azath wrote:
Now that we have the 1.2 SE, which one would you choose ?
The classic is still quite smaller, 125g lighter, 280€ cheaper.. and a good companion to the 3.5/21 for a small MF kit.
The SE appears to render bokeh a lot smoother at large apertures (but looses this character/impressionistic rendering), and better across the field sharpness closed down (even if the classic looks acceptable there).
The new 35mm f/1.2 SE has a very pleasant rendering. Very different than you would get with the 35/1.4 classic with a busy rendering. (which I also like for some scenes)
I would go with the CV 35/1.2 or 40/1.2 depending on FL preference. Personally I ended up with the CV 35/1.2 SE.
Yep, that looks EXACTLY like my 40mm 1.4. Sometimes I like the look though. Some of my favorite pics on flickr are from the 35mm 1.4 VM thread. There are some real gems.
ReleaseDrive wrote:
Yep, that looks EXACTLY like my 40mm 1.4. Sometimes I like the look though. Some of my favorite pics on flickr are from the 35mm 1.4 VM thread. There are some real gems.
ReleaseDrive wrote:
Yep, that looks EXACTLY like my 40mm 1.4. Sometimes I like the look though. Some of my favorite pics on flickr are from the 35mm 1.4 VM thread. There are some real gems.
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DaveFP wrote:
I love the 40.
Yes, they are very similar in rendering. I have used the Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 and 40/1.4 VM lenses on the Leica but I really like the E-mount's ability to focus as close as 0.3m. It's where this lens shines!
Anyone know one that's suitable?