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Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2

  
 
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p.9 #1 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


chiron wrote:
When you say "the lower flange distance tolerance with Sony bodies," you mean that the Sony flange distance tolerances are tighter? Or looser?


Flange distance tolerance is not as tight with AF mirrorless cameras because it's not really needed. The infinity distance does not have to be as precise with AF lenses. With the Leica M body, this is more crucial as the lens distance must be aligned with the rangefinder.



Dec 23, 2022 at 11:28 AM
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p.9 #2 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2




Dustybin wrote:
Resurrecting this thread. I have a chance to buy a 35 1.4, but there is no hood with the lens. Looking at the LH-6, it doesn't appear to the same thing as it it slotted/vented.

Can someone confirm this lens does actually come with a hood and, if so, whether there is a part number for it?

Thanks!


I think its the same hood that goes with 40mm 1.2, please correct me if I'm wrong.

There is one here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185703584861



Dec 23, 2022 at 03:39 PM
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p.9 #3 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


Anyone still using 35 Classic on Sony?


Aug 15, 2023 at 10:28 AM
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p.9 #4 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


lensfan wrote:
Anyone still using 35 Classic on Sony?


I use it adapted to the A9 with the TechArt EA9 AF adapter sometimes. Works great on the Sony.



Sep 09, 2023 at 02:48 PM
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p.9 #5 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


Fred Miranda wrote:
I use it adapted to the A9 with the TechArt EA9 AF adapter sometimes. Works great on the Sony.


Thanks. I gone different path and got 50G and Tamron 35-150 since then. Not sure if I will be thinking of 35 Classic again soon.



Sep 09, 2023 at 02:51 PM
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p.9 #6 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


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p.9 #7 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


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Aug 25, 2024 at 07:43 AM
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p.9 #8 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


Hard to find here in UK a second hand 35/1.4.
Would love to have it again, for that classic character look, but better copy than I had in the past. Mine was super soft, terrible...
I wonder if its better to order new, or keep lurking for a used one...



Aug 28, 2024 at 08:22 AM
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p.9 #9 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


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p.9 #10 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


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p.9 #11 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


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p.9 #12 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


How does the 35 1.4 vm compared to the sony E mount version?


Oct 30, 2024 at 11:19 AM
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p.9 #13 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


Started using my a7 II with the Nokton 35/1.4 again. Nice with a smaller combo and some vintage rendering, compared to my bulky and "perfect" GFX setup...






  ILCE-7M2    Voigtländer 35mm F/1.4 Nokton Classic (Sony E) lens    35mm    f/1.4    1/640s    100 ISO    +0.7 EV  




Nov 03, 2024 at 06:08 AM
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p.9 #14 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


Makten wrote:
Started using my a7 II with the Nokton 35/1.4 again. Nice with a smaller combo and some vintage rendering, compared to my bulky and "perfect" GFX setup...


Why not! After a while, all this perfection and ultra-resolution can become a bit monotonous, at least for me.

This lens is based on the Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 Nokton "M-mount" and draws inspiration from the famous Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux (pre-asph). A key advantage of the Sony mount is the addition of multi-coating and a notably closer minimum focusing distance. While the rendering shows a touch more contrast, its overall style remains very similar to that of the original vintage lens.



Nov 03, 2024 at 12:33 PM
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p.9 #15 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


What I find funny is that the Nokton doesn't share any similarities from an optical design perspective, to the Leica Summilux. Which probably only shows that you cannot determine character from a cross section drawing.






Nov 03, 2024 at 12:45 PM
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p.9 #16 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


I think you pressed the wrong button there Fred! Must have hit "edit" on my post, instead of "quote".

Edit: But yeah, they are more similar than I remembered.



Nov 03, 2024 at 12:55 PM
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p.9 #17 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


Makten wrote:
I think you pressed the wrong button there Fred! Must have hit "edit" on my post, instead of "quote".

Edit: But yeah, they are more similar than I remembered.


Sorry about that. That's exactly what I did. I removed the first section of your post by mistake. My apologies.

But my question was:

Don’t you think they share similar double Gauss optical designs?




Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux






Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 Nokton (M and E-mount)




Nov 03, 2024 at 12:58 PM
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p.9 #18 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


The Voigtlander 40mm f/1.4 Nokton (still in production) is slightly more tweaked to account for the longer FL but it has the same number of elements as the original Lux.







Nov 03, 2024 at 01:01 PM
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p.9 #19 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


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Nov 03, 2024 at 01:01 PM
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p.9 #20 · Comparison: Voigtlander 35/1.4, Loxia 35/2 & Voigtlander 40/1.2


catacore wrote:
I like very much this 35mm Nokton Classic (E-mount) and also its brother, the Nokton Classic 40mm (M-mount). To my eyes, they render quite the same.

I noticed, on Voigtlander's website, the difference between the M-mount and E-mount versions of the 35mm Classic is that the M-mount employs a "partial dispersion lens" ("Teildispersionslinse"). Also, the M-mount is offered in Single Coating and in Multi Coating. Same for the 40mm Classic, offered both in S.C. and M.C., but it lacks that "Teildispersionslinse".

Talking about "perfection and ultra-resolution", it is very nice that Voigtlander is offering us options.


To my knowledge, and according to the official Cosina site, both the M and E mounts feature a partial dispersion lens for the 35mm f/1.4 Nokton. In contrast, the 40mm f/1.4 Nokton does not use special glass, similar to the Leica.

https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/en/

Here is the Voigtlander 35mm f/1.4 Nokton E-mount's page: https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/en/e-mount/nokton-classic-35mm-f1-4/



Nov 03, 2024 at 01:06 PM
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