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Archive 2018Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
p.20 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Wesley Perrault wrote:
rattymouse wrote
Wesley Perrault wrote
Did this die on the vine?Ok, I'll bite.. Besides the large size and weight, what issues do you have that aren't addressed with current offerings that are addressed by the Zeiss?
Jun 19, 2019 at 08:39 AM
p.20 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The ZX1 is still there on Zeiss’ web site, https://zx1.zeiss.com/
Jun 19, 2019 at 08:53 AM
p.20 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
akashyap wrote:
In camera editing seems so forced. I'd rather use my hypothetical 6 inch edge to edge screen and the latest processor in it. You're telling me people can't wait the ~minute it takes to transfer photos onto a phone for the much more enjoyable experience? You can sit around a cafe during lunch or dinner editing on a phone instead of this behemoth of a camera. Only advantage would be to edit IMMEDIATELY after taking the photo to upload, and now you're clacking around on your camera in a probably poor LCD viewing area when you could be taking more...Show more →
I think it was a novel idea and maybe not for us but on some level perhaps the deep pockets media could possibly find it useful.
Getting immediate and better quality images transferred quicker to their news outlets or maybe one of the instagramers who are making hundreds of thousands of dollars from Instagram with millions of followers could probably justify it easily.
However there will be others a a fraction of the price that can do the same before very long.
But as far as for photographers unless you are talking about improving the image from a exposure, white balance, auto this or that any further editing for a finished product is going to have to be done on a computer or screen at a minimum.
If all you want are instant transfers use your iPhone xMax or other.
I expect it is only a matter of time and very soon before we can transfer images easily from regular cameras then we an do the basic and even some semi advanced on our phone or tablet and send them.
If it is something I care about it will be done in LR & PS on my computer.
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In camera editing seems so forced. I'd rather use my hypothetical 6 inch edge to edge screen and the latest processor in it. You're telling me people can't wait the ~minute it takes to transfer photos onto a phone for the much more enjoyable experience? You can sit around a cafe during lunch or dinner editing on a phone instead of this behemoth of a camera. Only advantage would be to edit IMMEDIATELY after taking the photo to upload, and now you're clacking around on your camera in a probably poor LCD viewing area when you could be taking more...Show more →
I think it was a novel idea and maybe not for us but on some level perhaps the deep pockets media could possibly find it useful.
Getting immediate and better quality images transferred quicker to their news outlets or maybe one of the instagramers who are making hundreds of thousands of dollars from Instagram with millions of followers could probably justify it easily.
However there will be others a a fraction of the price that can do the same before very long.
But as far as for photographers unless you are talking about improving the image from a exposure, white balance, auto this or that any further editing for a finished product is going to have to be done on a computer or screen at a minimum.
If all you want are instant transfers use your iPhone xMax or other.
I expect it is only a matter of time and very soon before we can transfer images easily from regular cameras then we an do the basic and even some semi advanced on our phone or tablet and send them.
If it is something I care about it will be done in LR & PS on my computer.
Edited on Jun 19, 2019 at 10:50 AM · View previous versions
Jun 19, 2019 at 09:06 AM
p.20 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
the 907x is how you make a new modern cam using your history.
https://www.hasselblad.com/cfv-ii-50c-907x/
the zx1 should've been the digital ikon people were looking for.
https://www.hasselblad.com/cfv-ii-50c-907x/
the zx1 should've been the digital ikon people were looking for.
Jun 19, 2019 at 10:14 AM
p.20 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
bjornthun wrote:
The ZX1 is still there on Zeiss’ web site, https://zx1.zeiss.com/
Zeiss web site is not updated very often?
Sorry for the pessimism. I sincerely wish Zeiss could get through with ZX1. But maybe optical company making niche camera is not a good omen if new technology is developed. What is new and novel in ZX1 might have had better chance in a larger mid/upper market product where the cost of development could be spread onto a very large amount of units produced and sold. You listen to us Sony?
The ZX1 is still there on Zeiss’ web site, https://zx1.zeiss.com/
Zeiss web site is not updated very often?
Sorry for the pessimism. I sincerely wish Zeiss could get through with ZX1. But maybe optical company making niche camera is not a good omen if new technology is developed. What is new and novel in ZX1 might have had better chance in a larger mid/upper market product where the cost of development could be spread onto a very large amount of units produced and sold. You listen to us Sony?
Jun 19, 2019 at 10:54 AM
p.20 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
As long as I have spare cash I will buy it 
Jun 19, 2019 at 11:31 AM
p.20 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
This interview with the Senior Product Manager of Zeiss was just a few months ago, highly doubt they would have scrapped the entire project so quickly..
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3766851163/cp-2019-zeiss-interview-lets-do-something-new
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3766851163/cp-2019-zeiss-interview-lets-do-something-new
Jun 19, 2019 at 06:55 PM
p.20 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
A lot of times in today's connected world it really is a matter of shooting, quickly editing and sharing they could be onto something if they can get the efficiency of the mobile phone os right. Fuji started their camera system with a fixed lens camera so we will see!
Jun 19, 2019 at 07:28 PM
p.20 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I always wondered if the wee screen was color-managed. I mean, they would need a really small I1 calibrator, the application and a small central surface on the LCD to place it on. Can I use my custom gamut profiles on it? (Not unless Adobe approves!) And we also need a DSLR-style focusing loupe to block out ambient light to prevent high mountain glare while editing. I don't wish them well at all. This is a corporate LARP from one of the few high end manual lens producers. Their managers need to look up the definition of 'opportunity cost'.
They tied up some really gifted people who might otherwise have produced a MILC version of the (no doubt) wonderful 35/2 that sits on this shelf-wasting white elephant. The (three month old) interview has some real tells in it:
Q: "You really seem to want photographers to do everything on the camera itself - shooting, reviewing, editing and uploading. Is that correct?"
A: "For this *concept*, yes. A photographer might still *carry a more capable DSLR* for an assignment.."
Q: "Previous attempts at this kind of product failed for a lot of reasons - how have you addressed the weaknesses of those earlier cameras?"
A: "*Well first let’s talk about* ... optimization around Android."
Classic deflection attempt. The beguiled interviewer thinks 'it could be said that Zeiss has nothing to lose'. So: a 'concept camera' that accompanies a 'more capable DSLR' (remember them?) to remote zones for which fixes of 'weaknesses' cannot be readily discussed, but for which DPR says the maker has 'nothing to lose'.
I can see the long queue of would-be (35mm FL only) remote guys from here, CCs in hand. They should call it the Zeiss Edsel.
They tied up some really gifted people who might otherwise have produced a MILC version of the (no doubt) wonderful 35/2 that sits on this shelf-wasting white elephant. The (three month old) interview has some real tells in it:
Q: "You really seem to want photographers to do everything on the camera itself - shooting, reviewing, editing and uploading. Is that correct?"
A: "For this *concept*, yes. A photographer might still *carry a more capable DSLR* for an assignment.."
Q: "Previous attempts at this kind of product failed for a lot of reasons - how have you addressed the weaknesses of those earlier cameras?"
A: "*Well first let’s talk about* ... optimization around Android."
Classic deflection attempt. The beguiled interviewer thinks 'it could be said that Zeiss has nothing to lose'. So: a 'concept camera' that accompanies a 'more capable DSLR' (remember them?) to remote zones for which fixes of 'weaknesses' cannot be readily discussed, but for which DPR says the maker has 'nothing to lose'.
I can see the long queue of would-be (35mm FL only) remote guys from here, CCs in hand. They should call it the Zeiss Edsel.
Jun 20, 2019 at 04:34 PM
p.20 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Looks like they've removed the website too: https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/weird-zeiss-has-removed-the-zx1-special-website/
Guess it's over? Hopefully they do something with the AF 35mm...
Guess it's over? Hopefully they do something with the AF 35mm...
Jun 26, 2019 at 06:58 AM
p.20 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Nah. Page is not removed and works right now: https://zx1.zeiss.com/
SAR posted that based on a server error that has since been fixed.
SAR posted that based on a server error that has since been fixed.
Jun 26, 2019 at 08:02 AM
p.20 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The camera was dead to me when I seen the size and weight. I also think they've over complicated things for no real good reason.
Shame as I would have preferred a 35mm to the Q/Q2s 28mm for one camera travel setup.
Shame as I would have preferred a 35mm to the Q/Q2s 28mm for one camera travel setup.
Jun 26, 2019 at 09:33 AM
p.20 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
kosmiq wrote:
Nah. Page is not removed and works right now: https://zx1.zeiss.com/
SAR posted that based on a server error that has since been fixed.
Maybe they just tested the reaction?
Anyway ZX1 is a very marginal camera - if it ever becomes available. The fate of ZX1 should not affect Sony's decisions on the future of RX1 line. I think there is a community of photographers who would warmly wellcome RX1m3 if it has at least some of improvements discussed in this forum
Nah. Page is not removed and works right now: https://zx1.zeiss.com/
SAR posted that based on a server error that has since been fixed.
Maybe they just tested the reaction?
Anyway ZX1 is a very marginal camera - if it ever becomes available. The fate of ZX1 should not affect Sony's decisions on the future of RX1 line. I think there is a community of photographers who would warmly wellcome RX1m3 if it has at least some of improvements discussed in this forum
Jun 26, 2019 at 11:06 AM
p.20 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
tuomkok wrote:
SAR posted that based on a server error that has since been fixed.Maybe they just tested the reaction?
Anyway ZX1 is a very marginal camera - if it ever becomes available. The fate of ZX1 should not affect Sony's decisions on the future of RX1 line. I think there is a community of photographers who would warmly wellcome RX1m3 if it has at least some of improvements discussed in this forum
I have had both the RX1R II which I returned as the tech is too old to have $3,200 tied up and it does not have a flash. Too limited with not so hot AF and fixed 35mm despite how wonderful the lens is.
I currently have the RXR1 but finding myself using my a7rIII and 35 2.8 or a6500 instead.
The only way I can justify a III is state-of-the-art AF, a 60+MP sensor to crop to 75mm and a flash so it can do double duty for me. Currently I use a a6500 and 20m or RX100V for point and shoots but would love to have a professional quality point and shoot. Events, group shots at restaurants and the like.
I would use the camera fifty percent as a point and 50 percent when I did not feel like carrying a full rig with me which is often.
kosmiq wrote
Nah. Page is not removed and works right now: https://zx1.zeiss.com/SAR posted that based on a server error that has since been fixed.
Anyway ZX1 is a very marginal camera - if it ever becomes available. The fate of ZX1 should not affect Sony's decisions on the future of RX1 line. I think there is a community of photographers who would warmly wellcome RX1m3 if it has at least some of improvements discussed in this forum
I have had both the RX1R II which I returned as the tech is too old to have $3,200 tied up and it does not have a flash. Too limited with not so hot AF and fixed 35mm despite how wonderful the lens is.
I currently have the RXR1 but finding myself using my a7rIII and 35 2.8 or a6500 instead.
The only way I can justify a III is state-of-the-art AF, a 60+MP sensor to crop to 75mm and a flash so it can do double duty for me. Currently I use a a6500 and 20m or RX100V for point and shoots but would love to have a professional quality point and shoot. Events, group shots at restaurants and the like.
I would use the camera fifty percent as a point and 50 percent when I did not feel like carrying a full rig with me which is often.
Jun 26, 2019 at 11:34 AM
p.20 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I thought the same and wrote to the Zeiss support if the camera development has been stopped...The answer was, that the „Launch off the first digital camera still needs testing” and that they ask for a little more patience. The exact launch they would communicate in time.....let’s see!
Fred Miranda wrote:
Can this just die like this?
Fred Miranda wrote:
Can this just die like this?
Jul 27, 2019 at 12:47 AM
p.20 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I hope so!
Fred Miranda wrote:
Can this just die like this?
Jul 27, 2019 at 03:48 AM
p.20 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Thread bump! Any info?
I guess at this point it’s not coming out or it will be significantly altered from what has been shown.
I guess at this point it’s not coming out or it will be significantly altered from what has been shown.
Aug 22, 2019 at 06:11 PM
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p.20 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I'm just not interested in spending a lot of money to be stuck 35mm fl. Great FL, but I could probably get uwa to tele, in some MILC or DSLR system for the price of this.
Aug 22, 2019 at 06:26 PM
p.20 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I think the Konost will be released before this Zeiss camera.
Aug 23, 2019 at 01:04 PM