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p.16 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
Feb 15, 2019 at 10:50 AM
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p.16 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
It’s a generational thing. I’m very comfortable editing on iDevices for quick high quality shares from the road. Now that Lightroom Mobile has a healing brush I want for almost no desktop functionality.
stevesanacore wrote:
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
stevesanacore wrote:
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
Feb 15, 2019 at 06:45 PM
p.16 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
stevesanacore wrote:
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
I just got back from 3 weeks in India where I sent images home to family and friends almost daily. Sometimes its nice to send images as it happens where there could be a relevant dialog about the images as they are fresh.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
I just got back from 3 weeks in India where I sent images home to family and friends almost daily. Sometimes its nice to send images as it happens where there could be a relevant dialog about the images as they are fresh.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.
Feb 15, 2019 at 06:48 PM
p.16 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
chez wrote:
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.I just got back from 3 weeks in India where I sent images home to family and friends almost daily. Sometimes its nice to send images as it happens where there could be a relevant dialog about the images as they are fresh.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.
You just defined a phone camera
stevesanacore wrote
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.
You just defined a phone camera
Feb 15, 2019 at 07:00 PM
p.16 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
mogul wrote:
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.I just got back from 3 weeks in India where I sent images home to family and friends almost daily. Sometimes its nice to send images as it happens where there could be a relevant dialog about the images as they are fresh.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.You just defined a phone camera
Yep...but with the flexibility and quality of today's mirrorless cameras. Why do we need to limit editing and sending images to phones...why not have this available directly on the camera?
chez wrote
stevesanacore wrote
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.
Yep...but with the flexibility and quality of today's mirrorless cameras. Why do we need to limit editing and sending images to phones...why not have this available directly on the camera?
Feb 15, 2019 at 07:17 PM
p.16 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
mogul wrote:
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.I just got back from 3 weeks in India where I sent images home to family and friends almost daily. Sometimes its nice to send images as it happens where there could be a relevant dialog about the images as they are fresh.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.You just defined a phone camera
I was just thinking the same thing!
chez wrote
stevesanacore wrote
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.
I was just thinking the same thing!Feb 16, 2019 at 07:24 AM
p.16 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
chez wrote:
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.I just got back from 3 weeks in India where I sent images home to family and friends almost daily. Sometimes its nice to send images as it happens where there could be a relevant dialog about the images as they are fresh.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.You just defined a phone cameraYep...but with the flexibility and quality of today's mirrorless cameras. Why do we need to limit editing and sending images to phones...why not have this available directly on the camera?
I understand and my thoughts are purely speculative. When I'm on the road and want to share shots to keep my family or social connections updated at the moment, I use my iPhone which isn't dependent on wifi. For more serious shots that will reflect my skills, I'll use a camera and wait until later in the day when I can sit with my laptop and process them more extensively. I'm trying to get comfortable doing that on an iPad but it stills feels too limiting.
Hey to each his own, If it's a hobby then anything that people enjoy, they should pursue. In my case it's my profession so I keep thinking in the box that I live in.
mogul wrote
chez wrote
stevesanacore wrote
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.
I understand and my thoughts are purely speculative. When I'm on the road and want to share shots to keep my family or social connections updated at the moment, I use my iPhone which isn't dependent on wifi. For more serious shots that will reflect my skills, I'll use a camera and wait until later in the day when I can sit with my laptop and process them more extensively. I'm trying to get comfortable doing that on an iPad but it stills feels too limiting.
Hey to each his own, If it's a hobby then anything that people enjoy, they should pursue. In my case it's my profession so I keep thinking in the box that I live in.
Feb 16, 2019 at 07:34 AM
p.16 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
chez wrote:
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.I just got back from 3 weeks in India where I sent images home to family and friends almost daily. Sometimes its nice to send images as it happens where there could be a relevant dialog about the images as they are fresh.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.
Oh great, another device Verizon can charge me a monthly fee.
No thanks.
stevesanacore wrote
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.
Oh great, another device Verizon can charge me a monthly fee.
No thanks.
Feb 16, 2019 at 01:31 PM
p.16 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Just googled, still see no updates. Anyone else know of/find anything?
Feb 24, 2019 at 01:51 PM
p.16 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I'm not so concerned with the ability to edit and send images directly from the camera.
If it produces images as good or better than the RX1RI/II and has better focusing in low light ability I will grab one.
If it produces images as good or better than the RX1RI/II and has better focusing in low light ability I will grab one.
Feb 25, 2019 at 07:07 AM
p.16 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Except he got to use a full sized sensor?
I agree with Chez, it’s useful to edit and share quickly in some situations. A phone camera is in fact easier but we still want good IQ. If they find a way to bend light better and give me APS-C in a cell phone it’ll replace cameras I use for casual stuff. But that’s got a ways to go.
Edit: I realize I have to add to this since this is a ZX1 conversation... The ZX1 in particular is problematic, I'm also not interested in carrying a larger camera in these situations (hence the comment about a high IQ cell phone being attractive). From what I've seen the camera is too big/bulky given that large screen for editing etc. Its potentially a neat feature but not one I'm willing to pay a size premium for. I'd rather see a slick interface to quickly chose and transfer RAWs to a RAW capable smart phone... cause unless it can take calls and check emails it's not going to replace carrying the smart phone...
mogul wrote:
Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.I just got back from 3 weeks in India where I sent images home to family and friends almost daily. Sometimes its nice to send images as it happens where there could be a relevant dialog about the images as they are fresh.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.You just defined a phone camera
I agree with Chez, it’s useful to edit and share quickly in some situations. A phone camera is in fact easier but we still want good IQ. If they find a way to bend light better and give me APS-C in a cell phone it’ll replace cameras I use for casual stuff. But that’s got a ways to go.
Edit: I realize I have to add to this since this is a ZX1 conversation... The ZX1 in particular is problematic, I'm also not interested in carrying a larger camera in these situations (hence the comment about a high IQ cell phone being attractive). From what I've seen the camera is too big/bulky given that large screen for editing etc. Its potentially a neat feature but not one I'm willing to pay a size premium for. I'd rather see a slick interface to quickly chose and transfer RAWs to a RAW capable smart phone... cause unless it can take calls and check emails it's not going to replace carrying the smart phone...
mogul wrote:
chez wrote
stevesanacore wrote
How about editing when you get home instead? What's the mad rush to upload photos? Who's waiting for them unless you work for a news service?Just don't understand why anyone would care to edit on their camera. At least our phones have larger screens and more options for software if you really have to get it done immediately. I'm just puzzled by the whole concept.
I had to download the images to my phone, edit them and then send them off. Would love to be able to skip the phone part and just edit and send from a camera.
Feb 25, 2019 at 08:39 AM
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p.16 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Guess what was spotted at CP+?! Still no new info, but DPR did get a hands on with it: https://www.dpreview.com/articles/1799282416/zeiss-zx1-hands-on-with-the-full-frame-android-camera
Mar 05, 2019 at 03:01 PM
p.16 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Such a big battery and only 250 shots/charge?
Mar 05, 2019 at 03:12 PM
p.16 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
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I haven't voted yet. I need more info, more evidence and a price. I however very much like the concept of what Ziess is doing here. To me the ZX1 is the most exciting of all the newest mirrorless announcements to date. I would have been very dissappointed if the ZX1 turned out to be a Zeiss version of the Sony RX 1 model.
We've all enjoyed the latest greatest in sensor tech, next step IMO is to modernize the UI workflow with instant and ubiquitous distribution process enjoyed for some years now by millions of mobile phone camera users...Show more →
I owned a Sony NEX 5N that I bought right when it came out. I wasn't good enough to justify spending much on photography back then, but I was dedicated to getting better. I eventually took the plunge and bought the Sony Zeiss 24/1.8. That thing lived on my camera constantly. I never felt the need to use another lens. I continued to shoot daily and work on improving for years. When the RX1 came out, I was an early adopter . . . except that my copy came with a broken leaf shutter or whatever that is at the end of the lens. I took advantage of the lengthy return time around X-Mas and finally returned it. I've missed a fixed lens camera ever since. I did rent an RX1RII for a trip to China about 18 months ago or so. I loved it. I've nearly pulled the trigger again and again. I am sure I could make do with a single focal length and I enjoy 35 for this purpose (though, I could make 135 work or even 12 for that matter). I don't shoot for anyone other than myself, so I don't feel any limitation by a single focal length. That all being said, I would much rather have seen an RX1RIII simply because I suspect it would have been cheaper and still awesome. I'll wait to see how the Ziess ZX1 is priced, but if it's too high then I'll stick the A7R series of cameras for the foreseeable future. I doubt there will be an RX1RIII.
I haven't voted yet. I need more info, more evidence and a price. I however very much like the concept of what Ziess is doing here. To me the ZX1 is the most exciting of all the newest mirrorless announcements to date. I would have been very dissappointed if the ZX1 turned out to be a Zeiss version of the Sony RX 1 model.
We've all enjoyed the latest greatest in sensor tech, next step IMO is to modernize the UI workflow with instant and ubiquitous distribution process enjoyed for some years now by millions of mobile phone camera users...Show more →
I owned a Sony NEX 5N that I bought right when it came out. I wasn't good enough to justify spending much on photography back then, but I was dedicated to getting better. I eventually took the plunge and bought the Sony Zeiss 24/1.8. That thing lived on my camera constantly. I never felt the need to use another lens. I continued to shoot daily and work on improving for years. When the RX1 came out, I was an early adopter . . . except that my copy came with a broken leaf shutter or whatever that is at the end of the lens. I took advantage of the lengthy return time around X-Mas and finally returned it. I've missed a fixed lens camera ever since. I did rent an RX1RII for a trip to China about 18 months ago or so. I loved it. I've nearly pulled the trigger again and again. I am sure I could make do with a single focal length and I enjoy 35 for this purpose (though, I could make 135 work or even 12 for that matter). I don't shoot for anyone other than myself, so I don't feel any limitation by a single focal length. That all being said, I would much rather have seen an RX1RIII simply because I suspect it would have been cheaper and still awesome. I'll wait to see how the Ziess ZX1 is priced, but if it's too high then I'll stick the A7R series of cameras for the foreseeable future. I doubt there will be an RX1RIII.
Mar 05, 2019 at 03:27 PM
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p.16 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
realVivek wrote:
Such a big battery and only 250 shots/charge?
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Such a big battery and only 250 shots/charge?
Welcome to android/LTE devices
Mar 05, 2019 at 03:40 PM
p.16 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
seanj wrote:
I doubt there will be an RX1RIII.
I hope you're wrong.
I doubt there will be an RX1RIII.
I hope you're wrong.
Mar 05, 2019 at 03:52 PM
p.16 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Sadly, we don't seem to know much more about the ZX1 today then we did when it was first announced. I am still very intrigued by the entire ZX1 concept and if it does make it to market would like to at least try the ZX1. The ZX1 concept certainly makes a lot of sense to me as I use camera with mobile or tablet app and device regularly anyway.
In the meantime, I am also watching the 47MP Leica Q2 rumors grow ( most believe it will come with the Panasonic SL 47MP sensor) and thinking this might be a fixed lens option for me too. 47MP opens up some viable crop possibilities outside of being stuck with 28mm or 35mm FL only. Q2 is of course a traditional approach, but for the first time the ZX1 and Q2 have me thinking about the possibilities of a fixed lens cam as my second camera instead of my normal approach of carrying around two ILCEs.
I wouldn't be surprised if ZX1 and Q2 are right around the same price range.
In the meantime, I am also watching the 47MP Leica Q2 rumors grow ( most believe it will come with the Panasonic SL 47MP sensor) and thinking this might be a fixed lens option for me too. 47MP opens up some viable crop possibilities outside of being stuck with 28mm or 35mm FL only. Q2 is of course a traditional approach, but for the first time the ZX1 and Q2 have me thinking about the possibilities of a fixed lens cam as my second camera instead of my normal approach of carrying around two ILCEs.
I wouldn't be surprised if ZX1 and Q2 are right around the same price range.
Mar 05, 2019 at 03:57 PM
p.16 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
After the ZX1 sales flatten out after a dozen or so units, there will be a RX1R III. 
Jeff Kott wrote:
I hope you're wrong.
Jeff Kott wrote:
seanj wrote
I doubt there will be an RX1RIII.Mar 05, 2019 at 04:05 PM
p.16 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
realVivek wrote:
Such a big battery and only 250 shots/charge?
Hopefully 250 is like the typical CIPA standards we've all come to expect, much lower than reality in these new mirrorless cameras. There will however, be a lot of processing going on inside the ZX1. Maybe 250 is being generous? Wonder how they will deal with heat...maybe another reason for the size of the camera body.
Such a big battery and only 250 shots/charge?
Hopefully 250 is like the typical CIPA standards we've all come to expect, much lower than reality in these new mirrorless cameras. There will however, be a lot of processing going on inside the ZX1. Maybe 250 is being generous? Wonder how they will deal with heat...maybe another reason for the size of the camera body.
Mar 05, 2019 at 04:05 PM
p.16 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
realVivek wrote:
After the ZX1 sales flatten out after a dozen or so units, there will be a RX1R III.
I hope you're wrong.
And it will come with an optional tablet that allows you to do all those tricks on a larger screen.
After the ZX1 sales flatten out after a dozen or so units, there will be a RX1R III.
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seanj wrote
I doubt there will be an RX1RIII.And it will come with an optional tablet that allows you to do all those tricks on a larger screen.
Mar 05, 2019 at 06:45 PM