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p.17 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The more I see, the less I like. I can't wait for more information. This is like watching a bad movie until the end. You just know it's got to get better.
Mar 05, 2019 at 11:24 PM
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p.17 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
After 160 days from the release detailed at page 1, the camera in the CP glass booth looks very lonely as it watches the world pass it by. Just look at what has happened in the last six months, new cameras and lenses aplenty. Zeiss may have done better for their brand by quietly excising the ZX1 from the scene.

There's no shame in failing when you try to achieve something very different .. that didn't work out like the design staff thought it would. The lens - what we all associate with Zeiss - could be repurposed into an RX1 style camera, maybe?
Mar 05, 2019 at 11:47 PM
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p.17 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
If the ZX1 isn't the future of photography...then this will be... just imagine those little lenses covering the entire back of this phone






Mar 06, 2019 at 01:53 AM
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p.17 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The problem is to combine the output of all these slenses into something that actually has high quality. Which is something I dont see happening so far.
Mar 06, 2019 at 04:08 AM
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p.17 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Not with that shutter with a max (mech) speed of only 1/1000s!

Besides that, we have no idea about the gremlins the AF may have.

philip_pj wrote:
The lens - what we all associate with Zeiss - could be repurposed into an RX1 style camera, maybe?


Mar 06, 2019 at 05:19 AM
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p.17 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Is that true, Vivek? Maybe the early PR was wrong, but a quick look at a 'review' turned up this:

'Regarding shooting features, the ZX1 has a shutter speed range of 30 seconds to 1/8,000s using a leaf shutter, and the camera can shoot at up to 3 frames per second.'

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/zeiss-zx1/zeiss-zx1A.HTM

I recall my Hexar AF was pretty limited at 1/250s.

Mar 06, 2019 at 02:51 PM
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p.17 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I say they make the lens interchangeable with adapters for all legacy Zeiss glass and I'm in lock stock and barrel.
Mar 06, 2019 at 03:03 PM
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p.17 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Dpreview’s latest “hands on” (https://www.dpreview.com/articles/1799282416/zeiss-zx1-hands-on-with-the-full-frame-android-camera?slide=2) state that it has a mechanical shutter with a top shutter speed of 1/1000s. Anything above is electronic via the touch screen. That has limitations.

The shutter dial in ZX1 also tops out at 1/1000s.

philip_pj wrote:
Is that true, Vivek? Maybe the early PR was wrong, but a quick look at a 'review' turned up this:

'Regarding shooting features, the ZX1 has a shutter speed range of 30 seconds to 1/8,000s using a leaf shutter, and the camera can shoot at up to 3 frames per second.'

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/zeiss-zx1/zeiss-zx1A.HTM

I recall my Hexar AF was pretty limited at 1/250s.


Mar 06, 2019 at 03:13 PM
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p.17 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
realVivek wrote:
[...] it has a mechanical shutter with a top shutter speed of 1/1000s.

Can you get higher shutter speeds if you stop the lens down ?

Like the Fujifilm X100 line of camera allows it ?
Mar 06, 2019 at 04:33 PM
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p.17 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
The lack of functional dials! What an oversight.
Mar 06, 2019 at 05:26 PM
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p.17 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
so anyone who worked on the ikon have long retired by now - shame.
Mar 06, 2019 at 11:40 PM
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p.17 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?

I suppose so. FWIW, that is the way the shutter (speeds) work in RX1/RX1 II.
Sauseschritt wrote:
realVivek wrote[...] it has a mechanical shutter with a top shutter speed of 1/1000s.
Can you get higher shutter speeds if you stop the lens down ?

Like the Fujifilm X100 line of camera allows it ?


Mar 07, 2019 at 04:47 AM
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p.17 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Isn't this dead before even being introduced? I mean really introduced,
not some behind the glass cr@p? Crazy how Zeiss screwed up this one.
If you have nothing to show don't show it...
Mar 07, 2019 at 04:58 AM
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p.17 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
"Zeiss is preparing to launch its first camera for more than a decade, in the form of the ZX1 "

"We started about four years ago, but we have always been interested in thinking about where and when to return to the camera market, because the last time Zeiss made a camera was the Ikon film rangefinder, in around 2004. Ever since then we’ve been thinking about how and when is the tight time to return to the camera market." Also a lot has happened in the industry - as background we’re seeing higher penetration of smartphones with more capable cameras, and people are adapting to use the cameras in their phones. On the other hand we saw there is a demand among photographers for more serious photography tools."

"If we’re going to make a new kind of camera, it doesn’t make sense to copy something that’s already on the market"

https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/3766851163/cp-2019-zeiss-interview-lets-do-something-new
Mar 31, 2019 at 04:54 PM
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p.17 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
LBJ2 wrote:
"Zeiss is preparing to launch its first camera for more than a decade, in the form of the ZX1 "

"We started about four years ago, but we have always been interested in thinking about where and when to return to the camera market, because the last time Zeiss made a camera was the Ikon film rangefinder, in around 2004. Ever since then we’ve been thinking about how and when is the tight time to return to the camera market." Also a lot has happened in the industry - as background we’re seeing higher penetration of smartphones with more capable cameras,
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I don’t think Zeiss can outperform the Rx1 or Q lines, so makes sense.

More marketing, no images though. Tired of all the talk. Yawn.
Mar 31, 2019 at 07:50 PM
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p.17 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
It should be as popular as the latest Ikon without a viewfinder. I have to admit that I own two rangefinder Ikons. Maybe by the time this comes to market, it will be totally different than the trial balloon of six months ago.
Mar 31, 2019 at 08:41 PM
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p.17 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I suspect that they will shut down the project. There is no profit to be had with this camera.

It is odd that they named it ZX1 -very optimistic- as if there will be ZX2, etc.
Apr 01, 2019 at 10:08 AM
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p.17 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Just got a Contax T2. Thank you Zeiss for making the decision easy.
Apr 01, 2019 at 10:18 AM
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p.17 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
My 35mm end game would definitely be a fixed compact camera and I love Zeiss optics , but wow this ZX1 is so sad. It looks as big as a Fujifilm medium format camera...
Apr 01, 2019 at 10:35 AM
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p.17 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
realVivek wrote:
I suspect that they will shut down the project. There is no profit to be had with this camera.

It is odd that they named it ZX1 -very optimistic- as if there will be ZX2, etc.


I wonder if Zeiss hasn't already made all the profit they expected to earn from this project ... not in terms of money, of course, but in terms of exposure (which, as well all know, is fast becoming the international currency of photography these days and is even better than money!) <rolls eyes>
Apr 01, 2019 at 11:51 AM
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