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Archive 2018Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
p.14 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
LBJ2 wrote:
After seeing this camera in action and in this lady's hand, it just doesn't look as large to me as some are complaining.
Stop the video at 0:12. That camera is HUGE for a fixed lens camera.
After seeing this camera in action and in this lady's hand, it just doesn't look as large to me as some are complaining.
Stop the video at 0:12. That camera is HUGE for a fixed lens camera.
Dec 21, 2018 at 12:23 PM
p.14 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
Any change of getting Eye AF with the ZX1?
Also, does it have EFCS or fully electronic shutter modes?
If not, what if there is shutter shock?
Any change of getting Eye AF with the ZX1?
Also, does it have EFCS or fully electronic shutter modes?
If not, what if there is shutter shock?
Dec 21, 2018 at 12:42 PM
p.14 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
rattymouse wrote:
Stop the video at 0:12. That camera is HUGE for a fixed lens camera.
If it were just a fixed lens camera, then I might agree that it's large.
LBJ2 wrote
After seeing this camera in action and in this lady's hand, it just doesn't look as large to me as some are complaining.If it were just a fixed lens camera, then I might agree that it's large.
Dec 21, 2018 at 12:56 PM
p.14 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I like it for its innovation. It has the potential to be really popular with this generation of people who live on their phones, staring at screens. It’s a very “hipster” looking camera IMO.
It had to be big enough to provide enough screen real estate for editing and make it comfortable in hand. I’d bet if they had made it really small, then we would be talking about poor ergonomics.
I agree that the lens has a lot to live up to!!
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It had to be big enough to provide enough screen real estate for editing and make it comfortable in hand. I’d bet if they had made it really small, then we would be talking about poor ergonomics.
I agree that the lens has a lot to live up to!!
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Dec 21, 2018 at 01:05 PM
p.14 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
If this is a solution for shooting and editing on the go, I think there are better solutions. I would rather have a smaller fixed lens camera or larger ILC and an 11 inch iPad Pro, which is trivial to carry,
Dec 21, 2018 at 01:06 PM
p.14 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Jeff Kott wrote:
If this is a solution for shooting and editing on the go, I think there are better solutions. I would rather have a smaller fixed lens camera or larger ILC and an 11 inch iPad Pro, which is trivial to carry,
Not a chance taking an iPad with me. Right now I use my phone, transfer the files to the phone, edit them on the phone then upload to the net. It's actually a pain to have the intermediate steps of transfer to the phone and then to the net.
If practical, I'd much rather edit right on the camera and send off to the net without needing yet another device to carry around with me.
If this is a solution for shooting and editing on the go, I think there are better solutions. I would rather have a smaller fixed lens camera or larger ILC and an 11 inch iPad Pro, which is trivial to carry,
Not a chance taking an iPad with me. Right now I use my phone, transfer the files to the phone, edit them on the phone then upload to the net. It's actually a pain to have the intermediate steps of transfer to the phone and then to the net.
If practical, I'd much rather edit right on the camera and send off to the net without needing yet another device to carry around with me.
Dec 21, 2018 at 01:11 PM
p.14 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Let's hope this is just the beginning of what's to come. Today I juggle camera, lenses, iPhone or iPad because some of my clients want/expect instant share capability and this includes some from the not so young generation.
Dec 21, 2018 at 01:13 PM
p.14 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Is this camera more of a marketing survey, or have they announced a release date?
Dec 21, 2018 at 01:18 PM
p.14 #9Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
chez wrote:
Not a chance taking an iPad with me. Right now I use my phone, transfer the files to the phone, edit them on the phone then upload to the net. It's actually a pain to have the intermediate steps of transfer to the phone and then to the net.
If practical, I'd much rather edit right on the camera and send off to the net without needing yet another device to carry around with me.
Not to count, you would be editing RAW files and not jpegs...
So, with the ZX1, Zeiss is going for ultimate IQ with a fixed lens. The goal is to maintain IQ during the editing process while offering easier ways to share the content. All this while still remaining as compact as possible. I do think the larger screen is a main contributor to its bigger size...and if one is really editing in camera, it's probably a good choice.. Not sure if it's going to work but that's where they are.
IMO, price will make it or break it and I don't see how this thing won't be expensive...
Jeff Kott wrote
If this is a solution for shooting and editing on the go, I think there are better solutions. I would rather have a smaller fixed lens camera or larger ILC and an 11 inch iPad Pro, which is trivial to carry,If practical, I'd much rather edit right on the camera and send off to the net without needing yet another device to carry around with me.
Not to count, you would be editing RAW files and not jpegs...
So, with the ZX1, Zeiss is going for ultimate IQ with a fixed lens. The goal is to maintain IQ during the editing process while offering easier ways to share the content. All this while still remaining as compact as possible. I do think the larger screen is a main contributor to its bigger size...and if one is really editing in camera, it's probably a good choice.. Not sure if it's going to work but that's where they are.
IMO, price will make it or break it and I don't see how this thing won't be expensive...
Dec 21, 2018 at 01:25 PM
p.14 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
Not a chance taking an iPad with me. Right now I use my phone, transfer the files to the phone, edit them on the phone then upload to the net. It's actually a pain to have the intermediate steps of transfer to the phone and then to the net.
If practical, I'd much rather edit right on the camera and send off to the net without needing yet another device to carry around with me.Not to count, you would be editing RAW files and not jpegs...
So, with the ZX1, Zeiss is going for ultimate IQ with a fixed lens. The goal is to maintain IQ during the editing process while offering easier ways to share the content. All this while still remaining as compact as possible. I do think the larger screen is a main contributor to its bigger size...and if one is really editing in camera, it's probably a good choice.. Not sure if it's going to work but that's where they are.
IMO, price will make it or break it and I...Show more →
$3k minimum, easy....probably a lot higher.
chez wrote
Jeff Kott wrote
If this is a solution for shooting and editing on the go, I think there are better solutions. I would rather have a smaller fixed lens camera or larger ILC and an 11 inch iPad Pro, which is trivial to carry,If practical, I'd much rather edit right on the camera and send off to the net without needing yet another device to carry around with me.
So, with the ZX1, Zeiss is going for ultimate IQ with a fixed lens. The goal is to maintain IQ during the editing process while offering easier ways to share the content. All this while still remaining as compact as possible. I do think the larger screen is a main contributor to its bigger size...and if one is really editing in camera, it's probably a good choice.. Not sure if it's going to work but that's where they are.
IMO, price will make it or break it and I...Show more →
$3k minimum, easy....probably a lot higher.
Dec 21, 2018 at 01:47 PM
p.14 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
rattymouse wrote:
Not a chance taking an iPad with me. Right now I use my phone, transfer the files to the phone, edit them on the phone then upload to the net. It's actually a pain to have the intermediate steps of transfer to the phone and then to the net.
If practical, I'd much rather edit right on the camera and send off to the net without needing yet another device to carry around with me.Not to count, you would be editing RAW files and not jpegs...
So, with the ZX1, Zeiss is going for ultimate IQ with a fixed lens. The goal is to maintain IQ during the editing process while offering easier ways to share the content. All this while still remaining as compact as possible. I do think the larger screen is a main contributor to its bigger size...and if one is really editing in camera, it's probably a good choice.. Not sure if it's going to work but that's where they are.
IMO, price will make it or break it and I don't see how this thing won't be expensive...$3k minimum, easy....probably a lot higher.
Considering the price of a new RX1rii is $3200 and a Leica Q is around $4500, I'd say that would be a good bet. I'd guess that with the fancy screen, etc., it will be closer to the Q.
Fred Miranda wrote
chez wrote
Jeff Kott wrote
If this is a solution for shooting and editing on the go, I think there are better solutions. I would rather have a smaller fixed lens camera or larger ILC and an 11 inch iPad Pro, which is trivial to carry,If practical, I'd much rather edit right on the camera and send off to the net without needing yet another device to carry around with me.
So, with the ZX1, Zeiss is going for ultimate IQ with a fixed lens. The goal is to maintain IQ during the editing process while offering easier ways to share the content. All this while still remaining as compact as possible. I do think the larger screen is a main contributor to its bigger size...and if one is really editing in camera, it's probably a good choice.. Not sure if it's going to work but that's where they are.
IMO, price will make it or break it and I don't see how this thing won't be expensive...
Considering the price of a new RX1rii is $3200 and a Leica Q is around $4500, I'd say that would be a good bet. I'd guess that with the fancy screen, etc., it will be closer to the Q.
Dec 21, 2018 at 01:52 PM
p.14 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Jeff Kott wrote:
Not a chance taking an iPad with me. Right now I use my phone, transfer the files to the phone, edit them on the phone then upload to the net. It's actually a pain to have the intermediate steps of transfer to the phone and then to the net.
If practical, I'd much rather edit right on the camera and send off to the net without needing yet another device to carry around with me.Not to count, you would be editing RAW files and not jpegs...
So, with the ZX1, Zeiss is going for ultimate IQ with a fixed lens. The goal is to maintain IQ during the editing process while offering easier ways to share the content. All this while still remaining as compact as possible. I do think the larger screen is a main contributor to its bigger size...and if one is really editing in camera, it's probably a good choice.. Not sure if it's going to work but that's where they are.
IMO, price will make it or break it and I don't see how this thing won't be expensive...$3k minimum, easy....probably a lot higher.Considering the price of a new RX1rii is $3200 and a Leica Q is around $4500, I'd say that would be a good bet. I'd guess that with the fancy screen, etc., it will be closer to the Q.
Yep and at $4k, that is one tough pill to swallow. The camera is crazy large. I'd much rather carry a regular sized camera and my MacBook for editing. That computer is so light I always forget that I have it with me or even where it is. It slots right into my camera bag and just disappears. It is by far my favorite piece of travel electronics, by far.
rattymouse wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
chez wrote
Jeff Kott wrote
If this is a solution for shooting and editing on the go, I think there are better solutions. I would rather have a smaller fixed lens camera or larger ILC and an 11 inch iPad Pro, which is trivial to carry,If practical, I'd much rather edit right on the camera and send off to the net without needing yet another device to carry around with me.
So, with the ZX1, Zeiss is going for ultimate IQ with a fixed lens. The goal is to maintain IQ during the editing process while offering easier ways to share the content. All this while still remaining as compact as possible. I do think the larger screen is a main contributor to its bigger size...and if one is really editing in camera, it's probably a good choice.. Not sure if it's going to work but that's where they are.
IMO, price will make it or break it and I don't see how this thing won't be expensive...
Yep and at $4k, that is one tough pill to swallow. The camera is crazy large. I'd much rather carry a regular sized camera and my MacBook for editing. That computer is so light I always forget that I have it with me or even where it is. It slots right into my camera bag and just disappears. It is by far my favorite piece of travel electronics, by far.
Dec 21, 2018 at 01:59 PM
p.14 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
What's odd is that today's email, which still has no price info and refers to staying tuned over the coming "weeks and months" implies that the release is still far away.
Dec 21, 2018 at 02:08 PM
p.14 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
brafman wrote:
What's odd is that today's email, which still has no price info and refers to staying tuned over the coming "weeks and months" implies that the release is still far away.
This is interesting. We've heard the camera would be released at the beginning of next year. It's almost here and there is no full specs on it yet. Just lots of questions about it...and very few reviewers.
What's odd is that today's email, which still has no price info and refers to staying tuned over the coming "weeks and months" implies that the release is still far away.
This is interesting. We've heard the camera would be released at the beginning of next year. It's almost here and there is no full specs on it yet. Just lots of questions about it...and very few reviewers.
Dec 21, 2018 at 03:31 PM
p.14 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
This is interesting. We've heard the camera would be released at the beginning of next year. It's almost here and there is no full specs on it yet. Just lots of questions about it...and very few reviewers.
Zeiss has never made a digital camera if I'm not mistaken. They have a huge learning curve and it's not hard to see that their schedule may have slipped.
brafman wrote
What's odd is that today's email, which still has no price info and refers to staying tuned over the coming "weeks and months" implies that the release is still far away.Zeiss has never made a digital camera if I'm not mistaken. They have a huge learning curve and it's not hard to see that their schedule may have slipped.
Dec 21, 2018 at 03:56 PM
p.14 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
rattymouse wrote:
This is interesting. We've heard the camera would be released at the beginning of next year. It's almost here and there is no full specs on it yet. Just lots of questions about it...and very few reviewers.Zeiss has never made a digital camera if I'm not mistaken. They have a huge learning curve and it's not hard to see that their schedule may have slipped.
Personally I think there is some Sonyism in the camera and i’m sure Zeiss can draw on some Sony expertise with digital cameras.
Maybe Zeiss is changing some aspects after feedback from the field. A novel concept with camera manufactures.
Fred Miranda wrote
brafman wrote
What's odd is that today's email, which still has no price info and refers to staying tuned over the coming "weeks and months" implies that the release is still far away.Personally I think there is some Sonyism in the camera and i’m sure Zeiss can draw on some Sony expertise with digital cameras.
Maybe Zeiss is changing some aspects after feedback from the field. A novel concept with camera manufactures.
Dec 21, 2018 at 04:08 PM
p.14 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
chez wrote:
This is interesting. We've heard the camera would be released at the beginning of next year. It's almost here and there is no full specs on it yet. Just lots of questions about it...and very few reviewers.Zeiss has never made a digital camera if I'm not mistaken. They have a huge learning curve and it's not hard to see that their schedule may have slipped.Personally I think there is some Sonyism in the camera and i’m sure Zeiss can draw on some Sony expertise with digital cameras.
Maybe Zeiss is changing some aspects after feedback from the field. A novel concept with camera manufactures.
Perhaps it will be similar to what happened with the Hasselblad X1D. Innovative product (compact MF sensor) but with lots of missing features. After a while the camera was improved through firmware.
I do wish they partnered with Sony for the electronics part of this camera. Perhaps just come up with a super clean Zeiss menu system.
We already know it has a Sony sensor.
rattymouse wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
brafman wrote
What's odd is that today's email, which still has no price info and refers to staying tuned over the coming "weeks and months" implies that the release is still far away.Maybe Zeiss is changing some aspects after feedback from the field. A novel concept with camera manufactures.
Perhaps it will be similar to what happened with the Hasselblad X1D. Innovative product (compact MF sensor) but with lots of missing features. After a while the camera was improved through firmware.
I do wish they partnered with Sony for the electronics part of this camera. Perhaps just come up with a super clean Zeiss menu system.
We already know it has a Sony sensor.
Dec 21, 2018 at 04:34 PM
p.14 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I like it a lot, the UI could be wonderful and wouldn’t mind carrying it at all because I think most cameras are too small. After all if I want something small then I'll just bring my phone, which is superior to any compact in practical use (ie direct to Instagram stuff).
I think it will cost 20% more than a Nikon Z7 with the new 35/1.8S lens simply because it's Zeiss.
Of course I want you guys to beta test all these new gear, I will wait at least six months to hear real world reports. If it has any relationship to Sony's UI forget it.
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I think it will cost 20% more than a Nikon Z7 with the new 35/1.8S lens simply because it's Zeiss.
Of course I want you guys to beta test all these new gear, I will wait at least six months to hear real world reports. If it has any relationship to Sony's UI forget it.
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Dec 22, 2018 at 12:40 AM
p.14 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Here’s a new video.... trying to see the rendering.....
at 2:00 the bokeh looks smooth... could be an f4 shot. If that's f2 I'd rather stay with RX1
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at 2:00 the bokeh looks smooth... could be an f4 shot. If that's f2 I'd rather stay with RX1
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Dec 22, 2018 at 03:41 AM
p.14 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
chez wrote
rattymouse wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
brafman wrote
What's odd is that today's email, which still has no price info and refers to staying tuned over the coming "weeks and months" implies that the release is still far away.Maybe Zeiss is changing some aspects after feedback from the field. A novel concept with camera manufactures.
I do wish they partnered with Sony for the electronics part of this camera. Perhaps just come up with a super clean Zeiss menu system.
We already know it has a Sony sensor.
I was looking on the shots with new the zeiss zx1 first hands on field video... she’s probably shooting f4 and above.... i don’t see An RX1 bokeh at F2.
Dec 22, 2018 at 03:56 AM