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Archive 2018Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
p.13 #1Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
LBJ2 wrote:
P.S. Other than Sony, I wonder who else is behind the ZX1 concept?
My bet's on Adobe... a camera that all but guarantees a buyer will be subscribing to their cloud plan. If Adobe has some imagination, they'd be co-funding the development of this concept.
P.S. Other than Sony, I wonder who else is behind the ZX1 concept?
My bet's on Adobe... a camera that all but guarantees a buyer will be subscribing to their cloud plan. If Adobe has some imagination, they'd be co-funding the development of this concept.
Dec 19, 2018 at 01:33 PM
p.13 #2Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
grahamgibson wrote:
My bet's on Adobe... a camera that all but guarantees a buyer will be subscribing to their cloud plan. If Adobe has some imagination, they'd be co-funding the development of this concept.
Personally I think this camera is going to flop and Adobe probably is regretting having it's name linked to it.
LBJ2 wrote
P.S. Other than Sony, I wonder who else is behind the ZX1 concept?Personally I think this camera is going to flop and Adobe probably is regretting having it's name linked to it.
Dec 19, 2018 at 01:39 PM
p.13 #3Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
grahamgibson wrote:
My bet's on Adobe... a camera that all but guarantees a buyer will be subscribing to their cloud plan. If Adobe has some imagination, they'd be co-funding the development of this concept.
It's just a tweaked version of their Lightroom mobile. The benefit of the ZX1 will be editing RAW files in-camera. When using Lightroom mobile with an images exported from a Sony camera, we only get full size jpegs to work with.
LBJ2 wrote
P.S. Other than Sony, I wonder who else is behind the ZX1 concept?It's just a tweaked version of their Lightroom mobile. The benefit of the ZX1 will be editing RAW files in-camera. When using Lightroom mobile with an images exported from a Sony camera, we only get full size jpegs to work with.
Dec 19, 2018 at 02:36 PM
p.13 #4Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Try shooting Raw + JPG. I believe that will then send RAW over the mobile app.
Dec 19, 2018 at 02:41 PM
p.13 #5Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
It never exports the RAW. At least not using Sony’s play memories.
LBJ2 wrote:
Try shooting Raw + JPG. I believe that will then send RAW over the mobile app.
LBJ2 wrote:
Try shooting Raw + JPG. I believe that will then send RAW over the mobile app.
Dec 19, 2018 at 03:06 PM
p.13 #6Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Maybe something else going on here or I don't understand correctly.
With Copy Image Size = Original in the Sony mobile app when I transfer from camera to iPhone I see images labeled as RAW and what I assume as JPGs are not labeled at all when selecting images for transfer on the iPhone. When selecting the images marked RAW they are save full size on the iPhone 7952 x 5304 as opposed to what I thought was a jpg file which saves as 1616 x 1080.
When I go to LR CC Mobile and import the same image that was labeled as RAW during the Sony Mobile transfer and import that same 7952 x 5304 image it is labeled as jpg in LR CC Mobile at file size 7952 x 5304 ?
With Copy Image Size = Original in the Sony mobile app when I transfer from camera to iPhone I see images labeled as RAW and what I assume as JPGs are not labeled at all when selecting images for transfer on the iPhone. When selecting the images marked RAW they are save full size on the iPhone 7952 x 5304 as opposed to what I thought was a jpg file which saves as 1616 x 1080.
When I go to LR CC Mobile and import the same image that was labeled as RAW during the Sony Mobile transfer and import that same 7952 x 5304 image it is labeled as jpg in LR CC Mobile at file size 7952 x 5304 ?
Dec 19, 2018 at 03:34 PM
p.13 #7Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I like the idea but (and this may be superficial) hate how it looks. The feature set is cool, but I probably wouldn't use 90% of it. I'm sure the optics are amazing, but I'd sooner go for a 28mm or 40mm as a fixed-lens option there.
Still waiting for a fixed-lens MF digital. If someone (ahem Fuji) can pull that off in a rangefinder package, I'm in.
All that aside, I'm glad Zeiss is putting this out and taking a bit of a risk in the process.
Still waiting for a fixed-lens MF digital. If someone (ahem Fuji) can pull that off in a rangefinder package, I'm in.
All that aside, I'm glad Zeiss is putting this out and taking a bit of a risk in the process.
Dec 19, 2018 at 03:47 PM
p.13 #8Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
LBJ2 wrote:
Maybe something else going on here or I don't understand correctly.
With Copy Image Size = Original in the Sony mobile app when I transfer from camera to iPhone I see images labeled as RAW and what I assume as JPGs are not labeled at all when selecting images for transfer on the iPhone. When selecting the images marked RAW they are save full size on the iPhone 7952 x 5304 as opposed to what I thought was a jpg file which saves as 1616 x 1080.
When I go to LR CC Mobile and import the same image that was...Show more →
It just exports the full jpeg if you choose "Original". You must shoot RAW + Jpeg in-camera. Otherwise it will only export the jpeg preview embedded in the RAW file.
Maybe something else going on here or I don't understand correctly.
With Copy Image Size = Original in the Sony mobile app when I transfer from camera to iPhone I see images labeled as RAW and what I assume as JPGs are not labeled at all when selecting images for transfer on the iPhone. When selecting the images marked RAW they are save full size on the iPhone 7952 x 5304 as opposed to what I thought was a jpg file which saves as 1616 x 1080.
When I go to LR CC Mobile and import the same image that was...Show more →
It just exports the full jpeg if you choose "Original". You must shoot RAW + Jpeg in-camera. Otherwise it will only export the jpeg preview embedded in the RAW file.
Dec 19, 2018 at 04:01 PM
p.13 #10Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Love freedom of speech and multiplicity of opinions on what a perfectly imperfect [best case] camera is and should be priced at knowing that it will be eclipsed all to soon by the next perfectly imperfect gestation. Happy holidays.
Dec 19, 2018 at 07:57 PM
p.13 #11Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Zeiss just released a new promotion video:
Dec 21, 2018 at 10:35 AM
p.13 #12Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
After seeing this camera in action and in this lady's hand, it just doesn't look as large to me as some are complaining. Not RX1 small of course, but not so bad really.
I subscribed to Zeiss ZX1 update emails ( https://zx1.zeiss.com ) Along with the video above this is the update:
"Staying in the flow." ( I like this statement and totally get where they are going)
"It’s been just over two months since we announced the ZEISS ZX1, a completely new camera concept, to the photography world. We are excited and thankful for you to join us, as we take the next step to combining the first-class image quality of a ZEISS device with the operational concept and intuitive user experience that makes the photographers job-to-be-done as easy as on a smartphone. This camera concept lets us explore new opportunities for ambitious photographers and their creative flow – from taking the shot to editing the image and sharing it on the web."
"Encouraging Feedback
Since the announcement of the launch during the Photokina in Cologne, we have received a lot of positive and encouraging feedback from you, the media, from photographers and ZEISS fans all over the world. It’s rewarding to see that the hard work and vision that has gone into the development of this new camera concept is recognized and understood for what it is: an exploration of new ways into photography. To hear what professionals have to say about their first hands-on experience with the ZEISS ZX1, take a look at our interview with Düsseldorf-based photographer Sabrina Weniger."
I subscribed to Zeiss ZX1 update emails ( https://zx1.zeiss.com ) Along with the video above this is the update:
"Staying in the flow." ( I like this statement and totally get where they are going)
"It’s been just over two months since we announced the ZEISS ZX1, a completely new camera concept, to the photography world. We are excited and thankful for you to join us, as we take the next step to combining the first-class image quality of a ZEISS device with the operational concept and intuitive user experience that makes the photographers job-to-be-done as easy as on a smartphone. This camera concept lets us explore new opportunities for ambitious photographers and their creative flow – from taking the shot to editing the image and sharing it on the web."
"Encouraging Feedback
Since the announcement of the launch during the Photokina in Cologne, we have received a lot of positive and encouraging feedback from you, the media, from photographers and ZEISS fans all over the world. It’s rewarding to see that the hard work and vision that has gone into the development of this new camera concept is recognized and understood for what it is: an exploration of new ways into photography. To hear what professionals have to say about their first hands-on experience with the ZEISS ZX1, take a look at our interview with Düsseldorf-based photographer Sabrina Weniger."
Dec 21, 2018 at 11:06 AM
p.13 #13Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
LBJ2 wrote:
After seeing this camera in action and in this lady's hand, it just doesn't look as large to me as some are complaining. Not RX1 small of course, but not so bad really.
It's not that the camera is so ridiculously large, just IMHO it is ridiculously large for a fixed lens camera. I don't see why something that big couldn't have been designed with an interchangeable lens mount.
After seeing this camera in action and in this lady's hand, it just doesn't look as large to me as some are complaining. Not RX1 small of course, but not so bad really.
It's not that the camera is so ridiculously large, just IMHO it is ridiculously large for a fixed lens camera. I don't see why something that big couldn't have been designed with an interchangeable lens mount.
Dec 21, 2018 at 11:20 AM
p.13 #14Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Jeff Kott wrote:
It's not that the camera is so ridiculously large, just IMHO it is ridiculously large for a fixed lens camera. I don't see why something that big couldn't have been designed with an interchangeable lens mount.
Perhaps the main goal was editing in-camera and having a huge screen is what made the camera bigger.
LBJ2 wrote
After seeing this camera in action and in this lady's hand, it just doesn't look as large to me as some are complaining. Not RX1 small of course, but not so bad really.Perhaps the main goal was editing in-camera and having a huge screen is what made the camera bigger.
Dec 21, 2018 at 11:40 AM
p.13 #15Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
I get it. My thoughts are the ZX1 was designed to be a camera AND an in-camera editing and image distribution device. Tough to do on something as small as the RX1 camera but if expectations are for an RX1 form factor camera then I absolutely understand. However, the ZX1 is IMO not a replacement for the RX1.
Yes, would love to see the ZX1 concept in a ILC. I think other manufacturers are watching this very closely and might be considering the same in an ILC. Personally, I don't think it would be too crazy for Sony to offer something similar in an ILC model.
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Yes, would love to see the ZX1 concept in a ILC. I think other manufacturers are watching this very closely and might be considering the same in an ILC. Personally, I don't think it would be too crazy for Sony to offer something similar in an ILC model.
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Dec 21, 2018 at 11:41 AM
p.13 #16Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Any change of getting Eye AF with the ZX1?
Dec 21, 2018 at 11:45 AM
p.13 #17Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
It's not that the camera is so ridiculously large, just IMHO it is ridiculously large for a fixed lens camera. I don't see why something that big couldn't have been designed with an interchangeable lens mount.Perhaps the main goal was editing in-camera and having a huge screen is what made the camera bigger.
You could be absolutely right as to why the camera is as large as it is. And, sorry to belabor the point, but if they knew they had design constraints that would require a relatively large camera, why not make the mount for interchangeable lenses.
This is not theoretical complaining for me. Like a lot of people here, I'm a big fan of Zeiss and like to try new things. If the camera was either smaller and fixed lens or the size they decided on with an interchangeable lens mount, I would surely be buying one. But the way it is, it's a no go for me.
Jeff Kott wrote
LBJ2 wrote
After seeing this camera in action and in this lady's hand, it just doesn't look as large to me as some are complaining. Not RX1 small of course, but not so bad really.You could be absolutely right as to why the camera is as large as it is. And, sorry to belabor the point, but if they knew they had design constraints that would require a relatively large camera, why not make the mount for interchangeable lenses.
This is not theoretical complaining for me. Like a lot of people here, I'm a big fan of Zeiss and like to try new things. If the camera was either smaller and fixed lens or the size they decided on with an interchangeable lens mount, I would surely be buying one. But the way it is, it's a no go for me.
Dec 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM
p.13 #18Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Fred Miranda wrote:
Any change of getting Eye AF with the ZX1?
I've not heard anything about Eye AF like capabilities offered in the ZX1. Sadly all I have so far is this one update email since the original announcement. I thought I read some rumor that Sony tech might also be involved in the ZX1 design...but again just a rumor I read somewhere.
Any change of getting Eye AF with the ZX1?
I've not heard anything about Eye AF like capabilities offered in the ZX1. Sadly all I have so far is this one update email since the original announcement. I thought I read some rumor that Sony tech might also be involved in the ZX1 design...but again just a rumor I read somewhere.
Dec 21, 2018 at 11:47 AM
p.13 #19Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Jeff Kott wrote:
It's not that the camera is so ridiculously large, just IMHO it is ridiculously large for a fixed lens camera. I don't see why something that big couldn't have been designed with an interchangeable lens mount.Perhaps the main goal was editing in-camera and having a huge screen is what made the camera bigger.You could be absolutely right as to why the camera is as large as it is. And, sorry to belabor the point, but if they knew they had design constraints that would require a relatively large camera, why not make the mount for interchangeable lenses.
This is not theoretical complaining for me. Like a lot of people here, I'm a big fan of Zeiss and like to try new things. If the camera was either smaller and fixed lens or the size they decided on with an interchangeable lens mount, I would surely be buying one. But the way it...Show more →
I think we first need to see how great this lens is. It has the potential of being even better than the RX1 35/2 Sonnar and that's probably one of the reasons for designing the ZX1 with a fixed lens that almost touches the sensor. This requires super tight tolerance.
Fred Miranda wrote
Jeff Kott wrote
LBJ2 wrote
After seeing this camera in action and in this lady's hand, it just doesn't look as large to me as some are complaining. Not RX1 small of course, but not so bad really.This is not theoretical complaining for me. Like a lot of people here, I'm a big fan of Zeiss and like to try new things. If the camera was either smaller and fixed lens or the size they decided on with an interchangeable lens mount, I would surely be buying one. But the way it...Show more →
I think we first need to see how great this lens is. It has the potential of being even better than the RX1 35/2 Sonnar and that's probably one of the reasons for designing the ZX1 with a fixed lens that almost touches the sensor. This requires super tight tolerance.
Dec 21, 2018 at 11:53 AM
p.13 #20Are you getting the Zeiss ZX1?
Since this is a Zeiss fixed lens camera, it has to be the mother of all 35/2's. No kitchen pass on that one 🤓
Dec 21, 2018 at 12:20 PM