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Archive 2018 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)

  
 
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p.33 #1 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


I received my Batis 40 on Tuesday and have not been able to get out for any serious shooting. However, I have done dozens of quick shots at various distances from infinity to closeups using the close focus setting. I can say with no reservations that this is an excellent optic. It is sharp at all aperatures right into the extreme corners. It balances very well on the A7RIII and the autofocus speed and accuracy is superb. I’m not a big user of eye af so I don’t really care much about that feature. My primary use for the lens will be landscape and travel photography. I’m a very infrequent portrait taker and I will usually be using my Batis 85 or 135 for individual or couple portraits anyway. I’ll do some more testing but I’m already happy enough with the sharpness, colors and general zeiss rendering to say it’s a keeper for sure. I’m planning to take the Batis 40 along with my new Sony 24 GM and Batis 85 to New York City next week for some holiday shooting in the city.


Nov 22, 2018 at 11:07 AM
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p.33 #2 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


So I've had my copy for two days now and I know the following.

a) In both AF-S and AF-C with flexible spot, expanded flexible spot it focuses fast, silently and to me so far very accurately.

b) Face detection with AF-C appears to work very well.

c) Eye-AF right now with AF-C does appear to me hit or miss but I am not 100% sure what is going on. Been comparing to the 50mm f/1.4 ZA it does appear to be better but not getting 100% there either. Need to do some controlled comparisons.

d) All images appear to be very sharp.

e) The noctogonal shapes caused by the lens stopping down from f/2 to f/2.8 to f/4 depending on objects closer than 1 meter do not appear to bother me but I have not done specific test to cause that issue. Most of my shots are a greater than a meter but I do expect to use it for Close Focus so more testing is needed.

More work to do.



Nov 23, 2018 at 09:29 PM
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p.33 #3 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


On a related side note: BH Photo shows The Sigma 40/1.4 E Mount as available early January 2019.


Nov 23, 2018 at 10:52 PM
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p.33 #4 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Batis 40 f/2 361 grams
Sigma 40 f/1.4 1.2 kg
3.3x heavier!



Nov 23, 2018 at 11:33 PM
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p.33 #5 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


For me if I want heavier I would just stick with the Sony Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 Planar ZA. Only about 2x heavier.


Nov 24, 2018 at 08:34 AM
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p.33 #6 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


I did some preliminary coma testing with the B40 on my A7R3. Moonlight, high iso, and no tracking make it difficult to make a good assessment, but I'd say it starts to look usable at f/2.8, and good at f/4.0. No stretch towards the corners.
I will do proper tests with my tracker when the sky is dark and clear - judging by the weather forecast, it might take a while.



Nov 24, 2018 at 01:27 PM
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p.33 #7 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


I guess we are all waiting for Fred Miranda to publish his impressions/results.


Nov 24, 2018 at 03:17 PM
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p.33 #8 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Oh yes it would be great to have feedbacks about the coma, this is what I am looking for before ordering this batis 40mm.


Nov 24, 2018 at 06:02 PM
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p.33 #9 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Sylvain.Fillos wrote:
Oh yes it would be great to have feedbacks about the coma, this is what I am looking for before ordering this batis 40mm.


Here's my test of the coma: https://30daysofbatis.com/blog/2018/11/14/day-16-solaris

Not the most advanced test, but should give you some impression (and lots of other Batis 2/40 stuff too).




Nov 25, 2018 at 04:21 AM
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p.33 #10 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Thank you very much. Not very advanced, yes... But still very interesting after 30 pages of debate about the eye AF...


Nov 25, 2018 at 10:07 AM
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p.33 #11 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


My coma test is now online:
https://rikutalvio.blogspot.com/2018/11/zeiss-batis-240-cf-coma.html



Nov 25, 2018 at 11:06 AM
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p.33 #12 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


RT-- wrote:
My coma test is now online:
https://rikutalvio.blogspot.com/2018/11/zeiss-batis-240-cf-coma.html


Good test! Also gives me ideas how to do come test in future.. :-)




Nov 25, 2018 at 12:08 PM
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p.33 #13 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Kalainen wrote:
Good test! Also gives me ideas how to do come test in future.. :-)

Thanks! It's a quick and easy test that gives good enough results for casual astro.
However, I prefer doing my tests on a tracking mount, so I can have identical framing, lower iso, and round stars.



Nov 25, 2018 at 01:33 PM
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Isn’t the Sigma 40 supposedly going to be the crown jewel of the Art series? I do use eye AF frequently as most of my shots are family candids and environ portraits, so I’m trying to decide to wait on sigma or get the Batis. If the Batis focuses properly in face detect mode, then a subject’s eye should be in focus too in face detect though right? Sorry to bring up eye AF again, but the Batis pics look nice and if face detect is good enough, so be it.


Nov 25, 2018 at 10:55 PM
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p.33 #15 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


I'm sure the Sigma's are as wonderful as the tests show. Just be sure you're ok holding a 2 1/2 pound (1.2 kg) lens for your family candids if you're considering the Sigma 40 f/1.4. YMMV, but I bought and returned a Sigma 50 f/1.4 not because it was optically inferior, actually it was superb, I just could not imagine carrying it around hand held.


Nov 26, 2018 at 12:52 AM
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p.33 #16 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Newtographer504 wrote:
Isn’t the Sigma 40 supposedly going to be the crown jewel of the Art series? I do use eye AF frequently as most of my shots are family candids and environ portraits, so I’m trying to decide to wait on sigma or get the Batis. If the Batis focuses properly in face detect mode, then a subject’s eye should be in focus too in face detect though right? Sorry to bring up eye AF again, but the Batis pics look nice and if face detect is good enough, so be it.


If you want to use Eye AF where there's enough DOF for it to miss it's always going to miss with the Batis so it (currently) isn't even an option if that's what you intend to mainly use it for. I haven't tested face detect but my first assumption would be it'll suffer from the same issue.

What I find appealing in the Batis is how well behaved it is optically, its handling and the close focus; based on that criteria the Sigma isn't really that appealing to me but that's a reflection of my priorities and not how good either lens actually is.



Nov 26, 2018 at 05:58 AM
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p.33 #17 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Newtographer504 wrote:
Isn’t the Sigma 40 supposedly going to be the crown jewel of the Art series? I do use eye AF frequently as most of my shots are family candids and environ portraits, so I’m trying to decide to wait on sigma or get the Batis. If the Batis focuses properly in face detect mode, then a subject’s eye should be in focus too in face detect though right? Sorry to bring up eye AF again, but the Batis pics look nice and if face detect is good enough, so be it.


So I've been looking at my photos taken inside with the 40mm f/2 at 1/60 to say 1/25 and f/2 to f/2.8 since the subject, my grand daughter, challenges the slow shutter speeds. I see some loss of sharpness but I can't tell of its motion blur or lack of focus sharpness or a combination of both. Need to put them on the computer to learn more. Also need to take some more images of controlled subjects to learn more.





Nov 26, 2018 at 09:32 AM
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p.33 #18 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


How about posting some pictures guys!


Nov 26, 2018 at 09:34 AM
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p.33 #19 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


I might just have to buy the damn thing. Any available?


Nov 26, 2018 at 09:43 AM
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p.33 #20 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Newtographer504 wrote:
Isn’t the Sigma 40 supposedly going to be the crown jewel of the Art series? I do use eye AF frequently as most of my shots are family candids and environ portraits, so I’m trying to decide to wait on sigma or get the Batis. If the Batis focuses properly in face detect mode, then a subject’s eye should be in focus too in face detect though right? Sorry to bring up eye AF again, but the Batis pics look nice and if face detect is good enough, so be it.


If you use eye AF extensively, then I would wait until more reports come in if that is a critical feature for you. I don't think the issues with eye AF are clear. I am sure that more people will be chiming in on both face detect and eye AF. Ultimately what is good enough, however, will be a matter that you will need to decide for yourself. I do hope people post some more pictures as Fred suggests, but I also hope Fred gets the lens soon and can share some of his tests



Nov 26, 2018 at 09:50 AM
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