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Archive 2018 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)

  
 
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p.34 #1 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


GMPhotography wrote:
I might just have to buy the damn thing. Any available?


That would be great Guy. I would love for you to get the lens and hear your impressions.



Nov 26, 2018 at 09:51 AM
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p.34 #2 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Gotta find one


Nov 26, 2018 at 10:56 AM
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p.34 #3 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Steve Spencer wrote:
If you use eye AF extensively, then I would wait until more reports come in if that is a critical feature for you. I don't think the issues with eye AF are clear. I am sure that more people will be chiming in on both face detect and eye AF. Ultimately what is good enough, however, will be a matter that you will need to decide for yourself. I do hope people post some more pictures as Fred suggests, but I also hope Fred gets the lens soon and can share some of his tests


If I’m not mistaken you have to have face detect on to use EYe AF. I always had face detect on



Nov 26, 2018 at 10:58 AM
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p.34 #4 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


GMPhotography wrote:
Gotta find one


"New Item - Coming Soon
Expected availability: Nov 28, 2018"

😉




Nov 26, 2018 at 04:48 PM
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p.34 #5 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


It’s funny I only see it listed at Adorama and B&H


Nov 26, 2018 at 04:51 PM
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p.34 #6 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


GMPhotography wrote:
It’s funny I only see it listed at Adorama and B&H


Focus Camera has had it listed as In Stock for a couple of weeks...



Nov 26, 2018 at 05:57 PM
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p.34 #7 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


I wasn't going to post this as I just quickly took these to compare it with another lens when I first got the 40/2 but as there's not many other photos I'll post them. I don't think I did any modification to them besides LR defaults.






Nov 26, 2018 at 05:59 PM
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p.34 #8 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


eyal wrote:
Focus Camera has had it listed as In Stock for a couple of weeks...


Dang I looked too. Nada

I pre ordered one on Amazon. I just use my account instead of a credit card that way I can switch if need be

Fred found a link there

Edited on Nov 26, 2018 at 06:11 PM · View previous versions



Nov 26, 2018 at 06:08 PM
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p.34 #9 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Any official statement from Zeiss about the Eye AF issue?


Nov 26, 2018 at 06:10 PM
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p.34 #10 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


GMPhotography wrote:
Dang I looked too. Nada

I pre ordered one on Amazon. I just use my account instead of a credit card that way I can switch if need be

Fred found a link there


https://www.focuscamera.com/zeiss-batis-40mm-f-2-cf-lens-for-sony-e-mount.html



Nov 26, 2018 at 07:00 PM
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p.34 #11 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Thanks it was hiding somewhere. Can’t believe it’s actually in stock. I have to wait till the weekend though. Need to sell my 55mm 1.8 too. Anyone looking let me know I’ll list it in the next day or two but PM me


Nov 26, 2018 at 08:04 PM
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p.34 #12 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Just got mine...I don't have any human subjects til the kids get home but so far mine is nailing, with no "jitters" or hesitation eyeballs with eyefocus using pics around the house of faces.
Guess we'll see how it goes with real subjects
It's so much lighter than the 35 or 50 1.4's...Wow, I'll check in later with some pics and more thoughts...
So far it's sharp as hell wide open and the AF seems great, like any other Batis (I have em all)...Too bad about the wonky bokeh balls, or whatever you call em...They seem to be fine (soften up) once you're out of close focus range.



Nov 27, 2018 at 04:06 PM
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p.34 #13 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Found a new review of the Batis 40mm online when searching YouTube. Lots of photo examples.

https://sonyalpha.blog/2018/11/27/zeiss-batis-40mm-f2-cf/

Google Translated conclusion:

The Zeiss Batis 40mm F2 is an excellent lens optically, it has an intermediate focal length between a classical 35mm for street photography and a 50mm more targeting portrait

Using the Zeiss Batis is a pleasure and the results obtained in the field of sharpness, color rendition, blurry background

However the autofocus is less efficient than the other Zeiss Batis (which was excellent)

Therefore if your primary use will be for portraits I will be hesitating due to AF Eye issue (on A7Riii, not tested on A7iii)

pros
Excellent sharpness wide open from center to corner
Very good color rendition
Soft and very good blurry background
Excellent contrast
Very good separation sharp area vs blurry background
Very good build quality
Very low distortion
Low Light fall off
Good resistance to flare
Very low chromatic aberrations
Short focusing distance

Cons
Reliability of AF with eye AF
Slow AF in video and sometimes hesitant
Bokeh Balls not perfectly rounded
Price



Nov 27, 2018 at 04:29 PM
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p.34 #14 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Nice review thanks, at least some "official" reviewer has without doubt reported that there is an issue with Eye-AF, so hopefully Zeiss will really make something about it, I cannot even think that such a reputable manufacturer would allow a 1.300 USD prime with the Zeiss badge to remain out in the wild with such a glaring defect (which apparently is not an A7III-only fault, so it looks really a problem with the lens itself).

P.S. Sorry to repeat myself, but those nonagonal bokeh balls on close-up shots remain plain ugly to me, which is really a pity as bokeh looks quite nice in mid-distance shots, even at F2.8, so that decision to close down the blades under 1m remains puzzling at best for me...



Nov 27, 2018 at 05:15 PM
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p.34 #15 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


I really want to buy this lens and these reviews are not helping me buy it! Hopefully Eye AF and nasty wide open bokeh and video AF can be addressed in firmware. Maybe Zeiss can let users select aperture behavior and make their own trade off choice at close distance. Shame as bokeh (and lens in general) looks nice otherwise! Wah wah wah!


Nov 27, 2018 at 05:38 PM
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p.34 #16 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Well, after a short stint with my son the eye focus seems to work about the same as my other lenses. I really only use eye focus when I'm doing portraits, so, i tried it out at about the same distance i'd use for a portrait with a 40mm lens, about 4-5 feet.
I also tried the DMF and didn't experience any front focus...I'm no lens tester so perhaps I'm not as critical as some will be...But, that works in my favor so I'm good with it

Bokeh is nice and smooth, it's also very sharp, I can see myself using it more than my Zony 50/1.4...I like this lens!
Eye Focus, seems to be working.


Eye focus 2 by Matthew Kerby, on Flickr


100% crop


Eye focus 2 cropped 100% by Matthew Kerby, on Flickr


Direct Manual Focus, no front or back focus that I can detect


With DMF by Matthew Kerby, on Flickr


100% crop


cropped 100% with DMF by Matthew Kerby, on Flickr


Shot both these wide open at f2 and I used LR to convert the RAW's to JPEGS, I didn't adjust at all.



Nov 27, 2018 at 07:08 PM
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p.34 #17 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Amazon was ready to ship mine today but I had to cancel. Waiting on cash.


Nov 27, 2018 at 07:52 PM
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p.34 #18 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


Tirpitz666 wrote:
close down the blades under 1m


The aperture is fully open only near infinity.
Since the Batis has an oled display, I tried to find the actual distance by watching the blades while focusing very slowly, but the display is pretty much guessing the numbers. The lowest number I got was 9m, and the highest 88m - 53m was the most common.



Nov 27, 2018 at 11:46 PM
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p.34 #19 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


This might sound like an unfair comparison but can anyone with the Batis 40 share how it compares to either the Sony Zeiss 35mm f2.8 or the Samyang 35mm f2.8 if they have either one of those lenses as well? Is the image quality significantly better?


Nov 28, 2018 at 12:51 AM
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p.34 #20 · Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299)


RT-- wrote:
The aperture is fully open only near infinity.
Since the Batis has an oled display, I tried to find the actual distance by watching the blades while focusing very slowly, but the display is pretty much guessing the numbers. The lowest number I got was 9m, and the highest 88m - 53m was the most common.


Not sure what's happening there but mines wide open at 1m, every time. Focus (half press) on a subject that you know is 1m and release then check lens. It will be (should) wide open repeat for subjects closer and when you check the lens you will see the aperture blades have closed in. Certainly doesn't need to be at infinity to get f2.



Nov 28, 2018 at 01:18 AM
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