I can't really buy something like this new. If reviews indicate that it performs as promised, then it might suit me to get one used or refurbished when the price approaches $1500 or less.
It all comes down to replacing a 7DII for shooting sports. I have had a couple of different bodies with EVFs that IMO could not replace the 7D optical finder. No dual card slot for insurance. I will wait and see.
It all comes down to replacing a 7DII for shooting sports. I have had a couple of different bodies with EVFs that IMO could not replace the 7D optical finder. No dual card slot for insurance. I will wait and see.
I said No in the poll because Canon did away with my favorite button of all time, I really enjoyed the ease of generating photos as I shot. Bring back that Print button Canon!!!
That 10-18 EFS lens for a 4K video lens looks very promising, and I suspect that will end up being in the bag for each EOS-R owner that does vlogging. The video that showed that in action seems very good. The single shot silent shutter seems to be a bit iffy for me, if it is easy to skew the recorded image as shown here?
ggreene wrote:
66% say no. Forum members are a pretty small percentage of the market but that's still some tough results on a Canon forum.
It may be a small percentage of the market but I wonder how much of the market come here to research a purchase? Our reservations may extend beyond the membership and influence other potential buyers.
I checked "Other", because I will never ever buy a camera without optical viewfinder. EVF are a deal breaker for me as they induce eye fatigue within minutes, rendering my enjoyment of them short lived, after that I'm done photographing for the day.
2. Requiring the use of a touchscreen to move the focusing point, is vexing.
2b. I am left-eye-dominant, which means my nose tends to make contact with touchscreens, so, touchscreens are, generally, a no-go for me, period.
3. The AF-assist beam on external Speedlites is, apparently, not supported. One of the wonderful things about Canon is the Speedlite system, which quietly surpassed Nikon’s system, while too few seemed to notice.
I prioritize ergonomics. Having not yet handled an EOS R, this part is “maybe,” for now. A 5D IV is about perfect for my hands, and normally quite small enough, for “travel.”
It is not that I feel a need for a mirror. I liked my M3, with the optional EVF, well enough. An unfortunate submersion ruined it. I may buy a replacement M3, or an M6.
Nikon is my second system. (One reason is because my wife is a Nikon shooter; we can economize by sharing expensive tele lenses, as we both like birds/wildlife.) We handled a Z7 at a Nikon launch event. I am not necessarily wanting a Z camera, either, but the Z7 has a toggle/joystick, and the shorter flange-to-sensor distance might mean better adaptability to some very interesting lenses, such as Leica-M, of which I have two, and, at the moment, no body upon which to use them.
RexGig0 wrote:
...but the Z7 has a toggle/joystick, and the shorter flange-to-sensor distance might mean better adaptability to some very interesting lenses, such as Leica-M,
You will be able to use LM and LTM lenses (Register = 28mm) on any of the new mirrorless bodies from Canon (R=20mm), Nikon (R=16mm), Sony, (R=20mm), and the rest. The key issue for successful use of short-register, wide angle LM/LTM lenses is the thickness of the sensor cover glass. The Sony A7-series cover glass is too thick for legacy LM/LTM lenses, resulting in smearing at the edges and corners. Leica digital bodies (R = 28mm) do not have this problem, as they have thin cover glass (designed for LM), nor do Sony A7-series bodies that have been modified to have thin cover glass (see Kolari), or no cover glass.
Long story short, nobody knows how well or poorly legacy LM/LTM lenses will work on the new Nikon Z6/Z7 and Canon R mirrorless bodies, until somebody reports the results of careful and systematic testing. Won't be long.
charlyw wrote:
I checked "Other", because I will never ever buy a camera without optical viewfinder. EVF are a deal breaker for me as they induce eye fatigue within minutes, rendering my enjoyment of them short lived, after that I'm done photographing for the day.
charlyw wrote:
I checked "Other", because I will never ever buy a camera without optical viewfinder. EVF are a deal breaker for me as they induce eye fatigue within minutes, rendering my enjoyment of them short lived, after that I'm done photographing for the day.
Some day, probably soon, the optical fidelity of EVF will surpass the human perception thresholds for resolution, colour, contrast, and latency (time lags). After that, any arguments about the differences between OVF and EVF will be purely subjective, because your human visual perception won't be able to tell the difference.
Watching that Cameralabs video you can see that the EOS-R has the same issue as the Sony bodies. His fingers are jammed up against that zoom. Way too narrow a space.
Hopefully Canon comes up with better ergonomics than that for the higher end. Sad.
jcolwell wrote:
You will be able to use LM and LTM lenses (Register = 28mm) on any of the new mirrorless bodies from Canon (R=20mm), Nikon (R=16mm), Sony, (R=20mm), and the rest. The key issue for successful use of short-register, wide angle LM/LTM lenses is the thickness of the sensor cover glass. The Sony A7-series cover glass is too thick for legacy LM/LTM lenses, resulting in smearing at the edges and corners. Leica digital bodies (R = 28mm) do not have this problem, as they have thin cover glass (designed for LM), nor do Sony A7-series bodies that have been modified to have thin cover glass (see Kolari), or no cover glass.
Long story short, nobody knows how well or poorly legacy LM/LTM lenses will work on the new Nikon Z6/Z7 and Canon R mirrorless bodies, until somebody reports the results of careful and systematic testing. Won't be long....Show more →
I knew about the general problem with wide-angle Leica-M lenses, on adapted bodies, but thanks for providing the details.
My Leica-M lenses are 35mm and 50mm, and the main one I would want to use with an adapter is my 50mm Summilux ASPH, which should be long enough to avoid the wide-angle issues. I think rangefinder cameras are not the best idea for my aging, bespectacled eyes. An SL Type 601 was the obvious alternative, but I decided to wait and see what Nikon and Canon would do, and now, I am waiting to see what Novoflex will do.
