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 p.33 #5 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread | |
davewolfs wrote:
Really looking forward to the 14-30. The firmware announcement is welcome. Shows Nikon is listening. I think the Z6 is a steal.
Is their 24-70 worth it or would you get a prime instead? We should be getting the 2.8 24-70 this year!
I suppose it’s if you want a super compact kit.
24-70f4 is totally worth the price given its size and performance. I will not get f2.8 version myself. I don't enjoy use Zoom much general speaking, not to mention huge size etc... For shallow DOF stuff, prime is the way to go.
For $600 kit price, I don't mind stock 24-70f4. It is superb for landscape and hiking. However, in my recent trip to China, I found I seldom put it on Z7, for city walk. Most of time I shoot duel body with M. 21mm SEM or 90APO on Z7 and VC35f1.7 or 50lux ASPH on M. 21/35/50 and two body are my prefered setup around city, total weight is less than a D850 and 24-70G
Z6 IS a steal.
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wolfloid wrote:
Now that a few people have had more experience with this camera and M lenses, what is the consensus on focusing?
a) is it possible to manual focus accurately and consistently without magnifyfing the image?
b) If it is neccessary to magnify, can it be done fluently and quickly, without missing the moment? - I'm thinking of moving subjects and blinking eyes as two obvious difficulties.
c) With the A7rIII it is possible to raise the sharpness/IQ setting which then introduces a shimmer for easier focusing (I've only read this about the A7rIII, but have experience of it on the A6000). This makes focusing without magnification fluent and relatively accurate. Is it possible to do this on the Z7? Has anyone had any experience of its accuracy, particularly for wide angles? (Note: this 'shimmer' has nothing to do with focus-peaking).
d) Is focus-peaking on the Z7 accurate and useable? Can anyone compare its accuracy to the A7rIII?...Show more →
a) No, I cant consistently hit focus, especially at 45M Z7. However, it doesn;t prevent me use it all the time and enjoy use it. For many type of images, hit 100% focus is not a priority at all  The accuracy tight with light condition, shooting condition such as do you have time to slowly tune focus or not etc...
b) No, again. However, if I have time and I need the shot in perfect focus, I will use magnify. I never be a fan of use magnify for dynamic situation, no matter what I shoot. I'd just prefer eye ball and shoot as is, just shoot more frame as focus bracket.... For most story telling case, the critical focus is not required. As long as the main subject you try to get in image get more in focus than rest of the frame, you will be fine
c) you can do that.
d) No, I don't see any difference between Z and Sony I used. Focus peaking can get you to the ballpark as a tool but I only found limited case I can rely on it to get correct focus.
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ypamine wrote:
After using the Z6 for a few weeks with a range of M lenses, here are my findings:
a) EVF is a little better than that of Sony A7RIII and looks less digital. I find it easier to focus with it with no magnification.
b) I find the zoom mode of the Z6 has a very serious lag, compared with Sony. There is no way you can make sure not to miss the moment. Taking a picture of yourself in the mirror in zoom mode and blicking a eye, you can then see yourself blinking in the EVF. I recommend using the zoom only for static or very predictably moving subjects.
c) Haven't played that much with these settings, but I confirm you can get the shimmer to help manually focus, but maybe not as obvious as with he Sony.
d) I don't like focus peaking much, so haven't really used it....Show more →
About b) Yes, I do noticed the lag now. I don't know about Z6, Z7 improve this spec (delay) after first firmware update. I can still feel the delay if I am looking for it. However, as mentioned earlier, I use magnified viewing only for static when I have no time pressure. In such case, as long as I purposely adjust my manual focus slower , I don't feel or am not bothered by a few tens of mS delay. If you try to speed up furning too much, you may face back and forth tuning due to minor delay and in the end, you will be slower. My suggestion: Just relax and enjoy the focus process
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mcbroomf wrote:
I noticed that DPR reported that K&F are releasing a swath of adapters for the Z shortly. Interesting that they include one for Canon EF lenses, albeit dumb. I hope this might lead other makers to consider a smart adapter. I'm eyeing the Nikon, but only if I can include using my Canon TSE lenses, and I'll want aperture control (not interested in shutting down on another body)
https://www.dpreview.com/news/3320671376/k-f-concept-nikon-z-lens-adapters-start-shipping-on-january-22nd
I'd like Nikon to offer another adapter with aperture linkage to report aperture info for AIS glass and offer focus confirmation for any adapted lenses, a feature I miss the most for Z7 compare to D8xx.
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