ryuemura wrote:
This thing is going to look like a 200mm f/2 on a Sony body lol The third image has me like..."Whaaaaat theeeeeee f**************?!?!"
That's the Canon version. The E-mount will be an inch longer!
Sigma should have followed Samyang's idea and adapted their Art lens line 3 years ago. At that time, this would have a bigger impact. After all the speculation created by rumors sites, this solution seems a bit late to the game and disappointing to many Sony shooters.
By now, they should have dedicated mirrorless designs! It seems to me, they didn't foresee Sony's full-frame mirrorless success and now found themselves behind the curve in a profitable and exciting market.
Or maybe Sigma is hedging their bets that they can also just adapt their lenses to the up coming Canon and Nikon FF mirrorless offerings. If they can just adapt their lenses, then they would not have to redesign for each new camera mount which I would think could be an expensive proposition.
The Sigma lenses aren’t really that much larger than the equivalent Sony / Zeiss lenses and will come in much cheaper than those two offerings. This has been the formula that made Sigma the no. 2 lens manufacturer last year.
Seeing those pictures actually makes me want it more .....assuming it's sharp.
I'm not all that concerned about size, it won't be traveling very far for my uses with it...and looking through the Nikon version's thread and people's results isn't helping me want it any less.
However....doesn't make sense to have this and a 135 of some sort, which was/is my plan of attack for my next lens. So I'll have to give it some more thought.
gocolts wrote:
Seeing those pictures actually makes me want it more .....assuming it's sharp.
I'm not all that concerned about size, it won't be traveling very far for my uses with it...and looking through the Nikon version's thread and people's results isn't helping me want it any less.
However....doesn't make sense to have this and a 135 of some sort, which was/is my plan of attack for my next lens. So I'll have to give it some more thought.
Normally I'd say it would be a good idea to have a similar focal length lens which is substantially different (for instance, MUCH smaller/lighter) but in this case, at least if it were me, I'd choose the smaller/lighter one practically every time so the monster would just sit and I'd regret purchasing it. So, yeah... don't buy anything else!
Fred Miranda wrote:
That's the Canon version. The E-mount will be an inch longer!
Sigma should have followed Samyang's idea and adapted their Art lens line 3 years ago. At that time, this would have a bigger impact. After all the speculation created by rumors sites, this solutions seems a bit too late and disappointing to many Sony shooters.
By now, they should have dedicated mirrorless designs! It seems to me, they didn't foresee Sony's full-frame mirrorless success and now found themselves behind the curve in a profitable and exciting market.
I am very much into portraits with fast lenses but this is insane considering there are many other options. The problem with the newer and latest iteration of lenses the size and weight has grown immensely to the point they are unusable. They become speciality lenses and the improvement in IQ and rendering is one of diminishing returns.
Sigma Art lenses err on the heavy side and they often do not spec the weight on release. I do wish like Nikon they used composites to keep the weight down. I know many love the metal and solid feel but give me high tech polymers everyday. You may not keep the length or diameter due to optical constraints but the weight is reduced substantially. Case in point is the polymer composite Nikon 105E that weighs 985 gms.
I feel the issue with Sigma Art lenses the size would be tolerated but the weight is the killer
charles.K wrote:
I am very much into portraits with fast lenses but this is insane considering there are many other options. The problem with the newer and latest iteration of lenses the size and weight has grown immensely to the point they are unusable. They become speciality lenses and the improvement in IQ and rendering is one of diminishing returns.
I dont see this less as unusable at all but to each its own.
My only issue is how to manage this between my 85mm 1.4 and 135mm 1.8 but I will have to get it, and see if it blows me away enough to make some changes in my current setup. Cant wait!
GabrielPhoto wrote:
I dont see this less as unusable at all but to each its own.
My only issue is how to manage this between my 85mm 1.4 and 135mm 1.8 but I will have to get it, and see if it blows me away enough to make some changes in my current setup. Cant wait!
Of course Gabriel Each to their own. I still feel this will be a specialty lens. Personally I love the Art series as I have the 24, 35 , 50 , 24-105 Art and 150/f2.8 Macro. These lenses are similar to other FF lenses is weight and size. I did have the 20 Art but quickly sold this as the weight was 950 gms and the size 130mm x 91mm. The 20 Art was a beautiful in IQ and rendering but I lost interest in carrying it around. There are some amazing 20/21 mm lenses around for a fraction of the size/weight and there is no need for f/1.4 in a 20mm.
GabrielPhoto wrote: that would be my dream combo a 105mm 1.4 with a 200mm F2 but for now I think my current setup of 85mm GM and 135mm 1.8 is pretty dreamy on its own
I currently have the GM 85mm, Nikkor 105mm 1.4E, Sigma Art 135mm and Canon 200mm f2L IS. The first one I grab for portraits is the Nikkor 105mm 1.4E. It's that good.
Ken_Cravillion wrote:
I currently have the GM 85mm, Nikkor 105mm 1.4E, Sigma Art 135mm and Canon 200mm f2L IS. The first one I grab for portraits is the Nikkor 105mm 1.4E. It's that good.
Ken_Cravillion wrote:
I'm very good at spending other's money.
Do you have some samples, Ken? I should have specified - the Nikon 105 f1.4. I really think the lenses you've listed here really help set your work apart...but you truly know how to use them.
pasblues wrote:
Do you have some samples, Ken? I should have specified - the Nikon 105 f1.4. I really think the lenses you've listed here really help set your work apart...but you truly know how to use them.
I think what attracts me to that lens is it has the bokeh, sharpness and separation but the working distance isn't as excessive as the 135mm and 200mm.
Ken_Cravillion wrote:
I think what attracts me to that lens is it has the bokeh, sharpness and separation but the working distance isn't as excessive as the 135mm and 200mm.
I can see that. It takes a lot of skill to use this tight of DOF - and it's not just the plane of focus - it's creating something interesting in the rest of the frame.