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chiron wrote:
But suppose you're not working and you just want to take your camera with just a medium lens on it?


No bag. No lens cap. Put the lens hood on and away you go. I've lived that way since the early 60's (high school) and it definitely works. A lot of pictures just happen in life, with no time to dig a camera out of the bag, get it ready, etc. I sometimes have a bag with me, but that's for the other lenses, other cameras; that sort of thing. At least one camera is always out, ready to shoot.

If you worry about the camera getting damaged or stolen (never happended to me in nearly 100 countries) then get a cheaper camera. Get the pictures.



Dec 23, 2017 at 09:36 PM
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No bag. No lens cap. Put the lens hood on and away you go. I've lived that way since the early 60's (high school) and it definitely works. A lot of pictures just happen in life, with no time to dig a camera out of the bag, get it ready, etc. I sometimes have a bag with me, but that's for the other lenses, other cameras; that sort of thing. At least one camera is always out, ready to shoot.

If you worry about the camera getting damaged or stolen (never happended to me in nearly 100 countries) then get a
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I think there is a lot to this--you are right that one's camera should often be out in the air ready to make a picture, not in the dark of the bag. But still--I would want a bag to keep it in between outings, one that is minimal and smooth enough to stay out of the way.



Dec 23, 2017 at 09:47 PM
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p.5 #3 · What is the right small bag to take only your camera EVERYWHERE?


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I think there is a lot to this--you are right that one's camera should often be out in the air ready to make a picture, not in the dark of the bag. But still--I would want a bag to keep it in between outings, one that is minimal and smooth enough to stay out of the way.


I can hardly say that I'm anti-bag. I think I probably have 20+. But I've also worked professionally for about 40 years before giving that up, and I have lots of different systems/needs/wants. Now I mainly use Sony A7..., m43 and Leica M rangefinders. But, as I said, I never go without a camera ready. If I take the little Panasonic GM5 with 12-32 standard zoom I usually also take a tiny belt clip on lens case with the Laowa 7.5mm and 35-100 2-inch long Pany lens. With the Leica M it's the 35/1.4. If I take the A7xx, I usually take the 28/2 or 55/1.8 Sony lenses and the other one in the same little belt clip on lens case if I take an additional lens. In part because of my 'always a camera' philosophy, I usually don't take big lenses as everyday lenses. Single focal lengths are really not all that limiting. There are always more pictures out there that need taking with the single focal length you have with you than you'll ever actually take.

Batteries go in the pocket the keys aren't in.

As soon as I take an over the shoulder or other type of bag, a lot more stuff comes along, but then it gets more serious. Out for a walk, or to a dinner, or to the store it's mostly just the camera and lens. And never a lens cap or 'never-ready case'. I'm sure glad those things died out.

And no, as my wife-to-be asked me 50 years ago, I don't take a camera into the shower or to bed with me. Just everywhere else.

An anecdote about storing and having a camera ready: 50 years ago last summer I was hitchhiking across North Africa during the 6 day war between the Arabs and Israel. Algerians etc. weren't happy with European/N. America looking people, so discretion was important. Also, photography was definitely frowned upon as it's against Islamic tenets. I was using Leica IIg cameras, and to help me take photos I wore my tweed jacket (I'm an old fogey) even though it was June, and kept the camera with 35mm or 50mm over my shoulder under my jacket. I'd just pull it out, focus and shoot and drop it so it hid under my jacket again. Lots of people saw me take pictures, but because it happened quickly and the camera was gone again, nobody gave me any trouble. My second camera and other lenses were in a bag in about the middle of my backpack. My lightmeter with some extra Tri-X were in the inside pocket of the jacket opposite the camera.



Dec 23, 2017 at 10:03 PM
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Henning wrote:
I can hardly say that I'm anti-bag. I think I probably have 20+. But I've also worked professionally for about 40 years before giving that up, and I have lots of different systems/needs/wants. Now I mainly use Sony A7..., m43 and Leica M rangefinders. But, as I said, I never go without a camera ready. If I take the little Panasonic GM5 with 12-32 standard zoom I usually also take a tiny belt clip on lens case with the Laowa 7.5mm and 35-100 2-inch long Pany lens. With the Leica M it's the 35/1.4. If I take the A7xx, I
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That is really a wonderful story, and I marvel at your bravery. I worry about taking a picture on a NYC street in broad daylight!

Your techniques and advice remind me of both Garry Winogrand and Cartier-Bresson. You probably know both of these stories about htem

There is a great video of Winogrand shooting in New York and just strolling along, quickly popping a photo of someone right next to him, nodding, smiling, and moving on, quickly taking another photo of someone else. The quickness of his taking the picture and the camera dropping away was everything to what he was able to photograph, and mostly his subjects just smiled back or looked away. Like you 50 years ago with the camera under your jacket.

About Cartier-Bresson, there is a story told, in the terrific book by Clement Cheroux, about Cartier-Bresson taking his camera everywhere: He and Phillipe Halsman were talking late one night at home and at about midnight decided to go out for a last drink. Cartier-Bresson reached for his camera. Halsman asked, "Do you expect to take pictures?". Cartier-Bresson answered, "No, but I am never without my Leica."

So both fit exactly what you advise and did.

But I would note that Cartier-Bresson, in the pictures I have seen of him working, almost always has a little leather case on a strap on his shoulder. There is often a strap on the camera also, which may be around his neck. But he still had a small take-it-everywhere case that would have just fit the camera with a lens on it!

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Dec 24, 2017 at 12:11 AM
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p.5 #5 · What is the right small bag to take only your camera EVERYWHERE?


Everyone has their fully valid preferences; all I can contribute are mine.

When photographing or being ready to photograph, which is most times, I don't want a case in the way, or a lens cap. That's about it. A small, one camera/one lens case makes no more sense to me than those old 'ever ready' cases. Very occasionally, in maybe a museum or airport I'm told to pack my camera away, as if it's a loaded gun and then I carry it under my jacket if I have one or find a plastic bag to carry it in. Otherwise it's out. And I still miss opportunities all the time!

Lots of suggestions for bags have been made. Get one that seems reasonable, use it for a couple of weeks as often as possible and see if it works. If not (usually), throw it into the closet with the others or try to sell it. There's really no other way to go about this. Other's advice only works to a point, and just fitting things into it for a day or two before returning it isn't a real test either. For the larger cases I do use I usually find out I like it about 3 months in. BTW, my overall general favourite is the Dome 803, not that that one would be solution you're looking for. Too big. But it is flat against the body, which is what I demand if at all possible.



Dec 24, 2017 at 12:30 AM
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I also use the Ona Bowery when I am traveling light--hand held Sony A7rii or iii and two lenses (one on the body, one in the bag. If any more gear, I use the Ona Brixton. I have both of these bags in Leather and the Brixton can hold a lot of gear if needed. I like the size of these bags and that they don't really scream camera bags (looking like a man purse is not all bad to me). If I am hiking or if I want to take a lot of gear, then I go the backpack route.

Edit: I dislike camera straps. I remove the little connectors from my cameras. This makes bags mandatory for me. I usually am working on tripods anyway so the straps just get in the way. When I do walk around, I just shoot in or out of the bag or hold the camera in my hands.

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Dec 24, 2017 at 12:52 AM
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I use the Filson small field bag...fits a Sony A7R III with lens, usb battery pack, and a spare lens if needed. Also additional small exterior pockets for other EDC items (pens, flashlight, etc) and it doesn't look like a camera bag. Filson has an amazing warranty on their items.


Dec 24, 2017 at 09:23 AM
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p.5 #8 · What is the right small bag to take only your camera EVERYWHERE?


chiron wrote:
Yeah, I know you Chicago guys worry about stuff like that. We New York guys are tougher than that.


That's so true - i didn't realize you were from NYC - but i nearly said in my post: "if you live on the coasts, you could probably pull off that look, but around here, it won't work."

frankly, i wish i could pull it off, b/c it's a nice bag - i also tried the Tenba (i think it was their '8') when i had the Tenba Cooper 13 slim (which is a fantastic bag, similar in size to the Ona i have now)

unfortunately, in the midwest, a fanny pack is acceptable, along with manboobs, but not man-purses :-)



Dec 24, 2017 at 10:52 AM
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That's so true - i didn't realize you were from NYC - but i nearly said in my post: "if you live on the coasts, you could probably pull off that look, but around here, it won't work."

frankly, i wish i could pull it off, b/c it's a nice bag - i also tried the Tenba (i think it was their '8') when i had the Tenba Cooper 13 slim (which is a fantastic bag, similar in size to the Ona i have now)

unfortunately, in the midwest, a fanny pack is acceptable, along with manboobs, but not man-purses :-)


That's funny and interesting. I happened to take a look at the "Retail Partners" link on the Ona Bags web site. The stores that carry them are light in the midwest and heavy on the coasts and heavy in Europe--Germany, France, Scandinavia, but heaviest of all in Italy, the design capital of world history.



Dec 24, 2017 at 12:00 PM
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ecarlino wrote:
That's so true - i didn't realize you were from NYC - but i nearly said in my post: "if you live on the coasts, you could probably pull off that look, but around here, it won't work."

frankly, i wish i could pull it off, b/c it's a nice bag - i also tried the Tenba (i think it was their '8') when i had the Tenba Cooper 13 slim (which is a fantastic bag, similar in size to the Ona i have now)

unfortunately, in the midwest, a fanny pack is acceptable, along with manboobs, but not man-purses :-)


Too funny, all this photo fashion. Here in Texas...
...a fanny pack says, "concealed handgun"
...a camera-case says, "photo nerd"
...a small bag says, "I'm 'out' and proud"
...a large bag says, "I gotta carry me some stuff (for work)"



Dec 24, 2017 at 12:32 PM
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The Peak Design 5L is a perfect fit for the A7RIII with my 3 Contax G lenses (28, 45, 90 converted to M mount) with TAP AF adapter.


Dec 24, 2017 at 12:45 PM
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Scho wrote:
The Peak Design 5L is a perfect fit for the A7RIII with my 3 Contax G lenses (28, 45, 90 converted to M mount) with TAP AF adapter.


More importantly, worn on your back it doesn't look like a man purse.

Masculinity saved!!



Dec 24, 2017 at 02:19 PM
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Scho wrote:
The Peak Design 5L is a perfect fit for the A7RIII with my 3 Contax G lenses (28, 45, 90 converted to M mount) with TAP AF adapter.


I actually ordered a Peak Design 5L to take a look at. But it arrived in a completely sealed black paper sack with a tear strip. Opening the sack to view the bag would destroy the elaborate packaging. I assumed this would make the bag non-returnable to Amazon. So I sent it back unopened and unseen.

I think some manufacturers and sellers are looking for a way to make it harder to return goods. But internet selling and purchases really require an expanded role for returns, not a more limited one.



Dec 26, 2017 at 03:42 PM
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There are benefits to being female....I can fit at least a couple lenses in the average handbag (in Domke wraps). But I too keep my camera out and generally in my hand or close to hand.
Working days it's different and the pile is gradually accumulating



Dec 28, 2017 at 08:05 AM
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+1 on the Peak Design 5L sling. I'm 5'6" and after 2 back surgeries, I found the 10L (superb design, btw) too heavy and unstable to carry all day. I use the 5L as a waist bag (uhhh...fanny pack) and it's wonderful. I can put the 55 1.8, the 35 2.8 and CV 15 in the compartments as well as the A7rii with my Batis 25 if necessary. I usually just carry the A7rii on a PD leash.

I have the Tenba 24L for carrying all of my stuff. It's adjustability is perfect for my height and back limitations. Tried lots of other bags before the Tenba that did not work for me.



Dec 28, 2017 at 02:30 PM
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I have the PD 10 sling been temped by the 5 as well but I have like 4 small ones now. Hmmm


Dec 28, 2017 at 02:35 PM
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Crap I just bought the damn thing. I need my head examined


Dec 28, 2017 at 02:41 PM
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16?

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Dec 28, 2017 at 02:43 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Crap I just bought the damn thing. I need my head examined


I have 5L
my review is here
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1524003/0?nc=1#14305457


I sold the 10L last night




Dec 28, 2017 at 03:06 PM
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Yea I want them both for a 3 lens and a 5 lens kit. I’ll dump some others I got a lot of bags


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