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p.20 #1 · FM members A7R III first impressions


GMPhotography wrote:
I really don’t recommend using the camera to download. To me and this me talking not the engineer talk but you run the risk of screwing up the camera port after time and just putting more wear on the camera. If your using the Song G cards and their reader than running as fast as you can anyway. Do what you will but do think about this. I shoot tethered a lot and I don’t want to risk that port


Guy have you found a longer USB C 3.1 capable tether cable yet? I think Tether Tools is working on something for the A7rIII but that will be pricey.



Dec 11, 2017 at 04:23 PM
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p.20 #2 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Gary Clennan wrote:
Can the A7RIII be powered by USB-External Battery Pack for long timelapse shooting? Just wondering if I can just plug in the battery pack instead of messing with this dummy battery.


Yes



Dec 11, 2017 at 04:32 PM
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p.20 #3 · FM members A7R III first impressions


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Yes


Thanks David! I suppose this would mean I plug in the battery pack via USB-mini cable to the A7RIII - correct? Does it even need a battery in the cam to work this way? Thanks.



Dec 11, 2017 at 04:50 PM
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p.20 #4 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Gary Clennan wrote:
Thanks David! I suppose this would mean I plug in the battery pack via USB-mini cable to the A7RIII - correct? Does it even need a battery in the cam to work this way? Thanks.


It’s micro USB, not mini on the A7 series.

I think (but am not sure) that you can use either the micro USB or the USB-C port for charging.

I don’t know if you can leave the battery out of the cam; but in any case I wouldn’t: those damn cables (especially the micro USB) have a bad habit of getting loose, and you don’t want all power gone from your cam if that happens.




Dec 11, 2017 at 04:56 PM
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p.20 #5 · FM members A7R III first impressions


LBJ2 wrote:
Guy have you found a longer USB C 3.1 capable tether cable yet? I think Tether Tools is working on something for the A7rIII but that will be pricey.


Not yet



Dec 11, 2017 at 05:00 PM
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p.20 #6 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Really the best solution is getting a USB repeater extension but I new to look at tethered tools stuff


Dec 11, 2017 at 05:01 PM
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p.20 #7 · FM members A7R III first impressions


GMPhotography wrote:
Really the best solution is getting a USB repeater extension but I new to look at tethered tools stuff


Here's their 3.0 extension cable and could be used with the current Sony USB C cable https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/858939-REG/Tether_Tools_CU3017_16_TetherPro_USB_3_0.html

But I'm going to wait to see what they come up with specifically for the A7rIII's USB C 3.1 standard.



Dec 11, 2017 at 05:08 PM
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p.20 #8 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Thanks LBJ2. Brian Smith wrote in his intro review that he can use the USB C port for offloading the card directly to a Comp but this is limited to USB2 speed.... I followed guys recommendation and got a SanDisk USB C UHS-II reader. Don't have the cam yet but from a few test shots at B&H onto my SanDisk they went like a lightning over to the ONE Plus 5 phone I use. I'll test the Cam USB3.1 once I get back home.

What is the power limit for USB charging? Standard or dash with 5V?



Dec 11, 2017 at 06:08 PM
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p.20 #9 · FM members A7R III first impressions


te4o wrote:
Thanks LBJ2. Brian Smith wrote in his intro review that he can use the USB C port for offloading the card directly to a Comp but this is limited to USB2 speed.... I followed guys recommendation and got a SanDisk USB C UHS-II reader. Don't have the cam yet but from a few test shots at B&H onto my SanDisk they went like a lightning over to the ONE Plus 5 phone I use. I'll test the Cam USB3.1 once I get back home.

What is the power limit for USB charging? Standard or dash with 5V?



"USB 3.0 and 3.1 both support the USB Power Delivery specification, which supports a maximum of 20 volts at 5 amps for a total of 100 watts of power"

A bit more detail on the USB C standard to include 3.1 Gen 1 and 3.1 Gen 2. Edited: " I believe A7rIII is 3.1 Gen 1 (SuperSpeed)"

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/what-is-usb-3-1-when-will-it-be-released-and-what-will-it-do-for-pcs/

Edited on Dec 11, 2017 at 10:11 PM · View previous versions



Dec 11, 2017 at 06:27 PM
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p.20 #10 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Excellent, 5amp I meant. That's really good levels. I was afraid to fry the camera with my dash charger. Thanks for info


Dec 11, 2017 at 06:32 PM
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One more positive finding about A7RIII: flash delay. My Nissin Air radio flashes are super-responsive & 110% reliable whereas with the A7RII I often experienced lag/delay. I can now quite confidently shoot slight movement with TTL.

And since the A7RIII FW separates Wireless Flash toggle from Flash mode (Fill, Rear Sync...) the Nissin Air system can now shoot rear sync etc. too. This was not possible with A7RII.


Gotta take this back a tiny bit. Radio flash is super-responsive and 100% reliable (not a single missfire so far), I can even shoot 10 fps with 1/32 or smaller power with Nissin Air 1 + di60A (or Di700A). But there is only "Fill flash" and "Slow sync" selectable when Nissin Air 1 controller is in the camera, no rear sync. But this is a Nissin limitation, should not be there with other flash systems. Next up, testing the Elinchrom Skyport Plus HS & Hi-Sync. There was always some shutter lag with this on A7RII and I actually shot some motion stop stuff with older dump Elinchrom triggers since it was easier to time motion with them.



Dec 11, 2017 at 06:39 PM
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p.20 #12 · FM members A7R III first impressions


So can we use the USB c port to tether


Dec 11, 2017 at 07:31 PM
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p.20 #13 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Pretty sure A7RIii is USB 3.0/3.1Gen1, not 3.1Gen 2...

And, yes USB 3/C to tether; or 2.0 Micro, if you wanted images to transfer more slowly!



Dec 11, 2017 at 08:57 PM
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p.20 #14 · FM members A7R III first impressions


I've had mine for 24 hours now. Maybe it's been mentioned already, but it does not appear that the pixel shift files are labelled in any way? I see in the Sony software they have their pixel shift icon, but there does not seem to be a way to know otherwise? Or am I missing something?
The My Menu is excellent, it should be a standard on all cameras today, the menus are so full of options it takes forever to find stuff otherwise.
Eye AF is amazing.
The firmware update is a PITA. I like the Canikon method of downloading to a card much better.



Dec 11, 2017 at 09:55 PM
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p.20 #15 · FM members A7R III first impressions


jacquesvroom wrote:
Pretty sure A7RIii is USB 3.0/3.1Gen1, not 3.1Gen 2...

And, yes USB 3/C to tether; or 2.0 Micro, if you wanted images to transfer more slowly!


Oppps maybe I misread SuperSpeed or perhaps wishful thinking took over: "USB TYPE-C™ TERMINAL
Yes (SuperSpeed USB (USB 3.1 Gen 1) compatible)"
https://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7rm3/specifications


After further research: https://www.msi.com/blog/usb-3-1-gen1-gen2-explained

"When USB 3.0 became USB 3.1 Gen 1

Recently however, the USB-IF organisation published an article where they announced that USB 3.0 connectors capable of 5Gbps (SuperSpeed) would now be classified as USB 3.1 Gen 1. While the new USB 3.1 connectors, capable of 10Gbps (SuperSpeed+) would now be classified as USB 3.1 Gen 2."

USB 3.0 is now called USB 3.1 Gen 1 (Speed up to 5Gbps)
USB 3.1 is now called USB 3.1 Gen 2 (Speed up to 10Gbps)



Dec 11, 2017 at 10:06 PM
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p.20 #16 · FM members A7R III first impressions


This whole USB thing is confusing as hell. I just bought a G tech Raid array and none of it makes sense. It’s working fine but still confusing


Dec 11, 2017 at 10:21 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
This whole USB thing is confusing as hell. I just bought a G tech Raid array and none of it makes sense. It’s working fine but still confusing


Just make sure it's set as Raid 1!



Dec 11, 2017 at 10:37 PM
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p.20 #18 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Can you shoot in cropped mode and if you can, what is the file size? Thank you.


Dec 11, 2017 at 10:52 PM
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p.20 #19 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Yes you can and it’s 18mpx


Dec 11, 2017 at 10:53 PM
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p.20 #20 · FM members A7R III first impressions


Thanks GMP!


Dec 11, 2017 at 10:54 PM
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