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umsl12 wrote:
How many of you will trade your 24-70/2.8GM for 24-105/4?
I have 24-70/2.8 and don't use it much as I should.


Im really considering it... The extra 35mm might be more helpful then 2.8 aperture.



Dec 03, 2017 at 04:50 PM
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p.7 #2 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


Had mine for a week but had limited chances to shoot, although when I have it seems to be a cracking lens, sharpness isn't an issue and its a nice size/weight on the A7riii body - I am contempating swapping it for the 24-70 GM though if for no other reason than I'm missing the f2.8


Dec 03, 2017 at 05:32 PM
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p.7 #3 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


Mine had to go back. A dud, vicnetting at all apertures at 24mm.

Thanks Sony.



Dec 03, 2017 at 06:10 PM
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p.7 #4 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


Andrew Gough wrote:
Mine had to go back. A dud, vicnetting at all apertures at 24mm.

Thanks Sony.


Haha! You made me laugh. I remember when I bought the Canon 24 1.4 II and when the files opened in LR, I was like, whoa!, what is this really cool effect? Worst vignetting I’ve ever seen. $1649



Dec 03, 2017 at 07:03 PM
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p.7 #5 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


I am serious, it was mechanical vignetting, the lens was defective. LR had nothing to do with it.


Dec 03, 2017 at 07:37 PM
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p.7 #6 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


Andrew Gough wrote:
I am serious, it was mechanical vignetting, the lens was defective. LR had nothing to do with it.


I've seen images from this lens at 24mm showing mechanical vignetting at 24mm wide-open. Was it showing it at f/8 as well?



Dec 03, 2017 at 07:38 PM
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p.7 #7 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


It's a lens/software con, folks. They are cheating us. Soon enough, almost all new lenses will be this way - Zonys, Zamrons, even Z-Zeiss perhaps. How crook are these abominations? An example:

Nikon's 24-70/2.8 VR is a $2400, 1070 gram, plastic everything (incl filter threads!), software-dependent pro lens. Let that sink in for a moment. It starts out at 3% barrel and soon heads off to 1.6% pincushion. 'At 24mm and 35mm there is more vignetting wide open than fits our scale - something we haven't seen in this lens class before.' 'chromatic aberrations (color shadows at harsh contrast transitions) are surprisingly high, reaching peak values of above 3 pixels at the image borders at 35mm...CAs this high will have an influence on the perceived sharpness nonetheless.' (PZ)

It's hard to criticize a pretty good Sony consumer zoom when this is what $2400 buys you. Welcome to the future.



Dec 03, 2017 at 08:22 PM
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p.7 #8 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


It's by design. After correction of the barrel distortion the dark corners would be outside of the picture.
Andrew Gough wrote:
I am serious, it was mechanical vignetting, the lens was defective. LR had nothing to do with it.




Dec 03, 2017 at 08:25 PM
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p.7 #9 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


I had the vignetting even with the built in profile enabled. Shot on my A7R3, latest firmware.

It was evident at all apertures, all the way to F16.



Dec 03, 2017 at 09:55 PM
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p.7 #10 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


Andrew Gough wrote:
I had the vignetting even with the built in profile enabled. Shot on my A7R3, latest firmware.

It was evident at all apertures, all the way to F16.


Probably an element spacing issue.



Dec 03, 2017 at 10:02 PM
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p.7 #11 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


The built in profile is only for CA, just discovered that. So Philip maybe right, as there is no current profile in lightroom available. I'll have another copy to test this week, so I'll let everyone know. But if its true...


Dec 03, 2017 at 10:38 PM
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p.7 #12 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


http://photo.yodobashi.com/sony/lens/sel24105g/


Dec 04, 2017 at 03:58 PM
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p.7 #13 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


metaldood wrote:
http://photo.yodobashi.com/sony/lens/sel24105g/


I can't understand a word, I can only look at the pictures



Dec 04, 2017 at 05:21 PM
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p.7 #14 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


Maximilian wrote:
I can't understand a word, I can only look at the pictures


Google translate. It's not perfect but close enough.



Dec 04, 2017 at 05:34 PM
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p.7 #15 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


metaldood wrote:
Google translate. It's not perfect but close enough.


I tried Google.translate, what I get is kind of: "The depiction with a stable chisel in any zoom range is painful. Moreover, the depiction power of throttle opening to fully open accelerator. "

Not a great help in my view...



Dec 04, 2017 at 05:53 PM
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p.7 #16 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60438151

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60464059

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60460580




Dec 04, 2017 at 05:55 PM
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p.7 #17 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


Andrew Gough wrote:
The built in profile is only for CA, just discovered that. So Philip maybe right, as there is no current profile in lightroom available. I'll have another copy to test this week, so I'll let everyone know. But if its true...


As Nanh points out, after correcting for barrel distortion the corners clean up quite a bit. I didn't have a brick wall handy to test this, but here is a shot of my office carpet with a7rii and new 24-105. The first is from lightroom, the second is the camera produced jpg.













Dec 04, 2017 at 06:05 PM
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p.7 #18 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


Quick grab shots with FE 24-105 / A7RII. To my eyes, center sharpness does not improve stopping down, corners do clean up as you stop down.

Distortion seems to be high. No lens correction applied except the built-in CA.

All at 105 MM, F4/5.6/8 respectvely.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dC8obJHuFKaefA8ujDWc_18P5m3l1Res


https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ab7SGYE4n8SP0YapMMl0k5MuM2agxgj8


https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yKTK8xP53uz4wYFJpNoP-bcN7zBJcypD



Dec 05, 2017 at 07:59 PM
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p.7 #19 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


Mine is going back to Sony. I get dark corners even in jpeg mode - Lens corrections are turned on. I am also getting Cyan vignetting...


Dec 06, 2017 at 06:14 PM
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p.7 #20 · New FE 24-105 f/4. How good?


I rented it for the month, if it doesn't work out, not much lost. I'll go for the 24-70GM if I have to.


Dec 06, 2017 at 06:39 PM
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