p.54 #1 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
I’m going to start looking. I’m on a time crunch. I leave for LA on 12/1
I pre-ordered at Amazon which I have 1 day. The real question I have is release is 11/30 is that the day we receive or they ship. I could have them hold at UPS and pick up at 8 am on the first than drive over to LA which would work or ship to hotel. I’m betting Canada gets them before the US. It’s just cutting it close. I have a A7rII a member rented to me to cover things but like to get the new one to shoot and also test in LA.
p.54 #2 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
It’s going to be fun see us all hopefully getting them in the first wave. I’m concerned we all get them right away though. Ton of pre - orders, why I did not pre-order at B&H
p.54 #3 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Fred Miranda wrote:
It looks like the A7RIII will be available on November 30th (Thursday) and perhaps ship the same day or next day (Friday). Has anyone paid for next day shipping or the free expedited shipping is good enough? For me here in California, it would mean getting the camera 5 days later.
What do you think about a local photo store - I am first on the list. Do you think they will receive the same time as B&H?
p.54 #4 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
virtualrain wrote:
I wonder if anyone has tested the best performing card storage scheme on the a9... for those that don’t need backups is it faster to just use the UHS-II card to write both a RAW and JPEG or is it faster to write the JPEG to the slow card. I guess it depends if the camera can write to both cards simultaneously or not.
Relevant paragraph from that test:
"Recording RAW and JPEG separately can provide a slight increase in speed over writing both RAW and JPEG to Slot 1 when using fast cards. Using a somewhat slower card in Slot 2 reduced the speed but even cards that averaged 45-50 MB/s write speed provided performance that was about equal to recording both image types to the fast card. Since JPEG and Slot 2 performance are much slower than the UHS-II speed and faster RAW processing speed, there is little penalty in using a UHS-I card that is slightly slower in Slot 2. As long as the card in Slot 2 can maintain about 50MB/s write speed the penalty is minimal when shooting RAW and JPEG separately.
The default when setting the A9 to "Sort JPEG/RAW" mode is to save the RAW to Slot 2 and JPEG to Slot 1. This is not a favorable configuration when using UHS-II cards because the larger RAW file is written to the slower UHS-I card slot. The solution is to set the default card to Slot 2 by changing "Select Rec. Media" to Slot 2, then RAW images are recorded to Slot 1 and JPEG are saved to Slot 2. The difference between these settings can be seen by comparing the first two rows in the table above."
p.54 #5 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
That’s correct I switched that to Raw to Slot 1 I have the fast Sony card in there and for Slot 2 a Lexar 1000 card which is UHS-1 card so you need to change the default. I have yet to hit the buffer on the A9.
Not sure why they had there default like that but you need to change it. Especially with the 42mpx monster coming.
p.54 #6 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Okay on my podium. Folks this is not the place to try and save money. Als not the time to buy off eBay either. There are a ton of knock offs out there . Buy retail packaging from like B&H or Adorama. Watch Amazon as sometimes the knock offs float there but if you get retail packaging than it should be the real deal. I also would stay with a Sony, Lexar and SanDisk as I had many years of success with them.
This is not the place to be cheap. Sure find them on sale but this is a deadly moment when cards fail. Don’t risk it
p.54 #7 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
When Guy and Arbitrage talk I listen.
I'd say even with the 'good' cards and both slots full have another card in the pocket or pack.
6 weeks ago in Yellowstone I had this card Lexar 128GB Professional 2000x UHS-II U3 SDXC
fail, bought at Adorama. Didn't miss anything though.
The card would not write/read/nor allow formatting in camera or in two separate laptops taken on the trip.
Lexar replaced promptly.
p.54 #8 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Working in professional camera retail I have sold literally thousands of cards over the years. I have sold all the major brands and had very few customers back with failing cards and lost jobs. But when I have, it has been disproportionately high against Lexar cards.
The reverse has been true of Sandisk. Not starting a brand war but just sharing my experience.....
Relevant paragraph from that test:
"Recording RAW and JPEG separately can provide a slight increase in speed over writing both RAW and JPEG to Slot 1 when using fast cards. Using a somewhat slower card in Slot 2 reduced the speed but even cards that averaged 45-50 MB/s write speed provided performance that was about equal to recording both image types to the fast card. Since JPEG and Slot 2 performance are much slower than the UHS-II speed and faster RAW processing speed, there is little penalty in using a UHS-I card that is slightly slower in Slot 2. As long as the card in Slot 2 can maintain about 50MB/s write speed the penalty is minimal when shooting RAW and JPEG separately.
The default when setting the A9 to "Sort JPEG/RAW" mode is to save the RAW to Slot 2 and JPEG to Slot 1. This is not a favorable configuration when using UHS-II cards because the larger RAW file is written to the slower UHS-I card slot. The solution is to set the default card to Slot 2 by changing "Select Rec. Media" to Slot 2, then RAW images are recorded to Slot 1 and JPEG are saved to Slot 2. The difference between these settings can be seen by comparing the first two rows in the table above."...Show more →
Thanks for this. It seems for guys like me who are not too concerned about redundancy, that the way to go is RAW to slot 1 on a fast UHS-II card and JPEG to slot 2 on a fast UHS-I (or II) card.
Personally, I’m getting one of the new Sony SF-G series for slot 1 and will use my existing M series card in slot 2.
It’s interesting that with this camera the Lexar cards outperform the Sony by a small margin while the Sony S1 card reader sees the opposite.
One thing I noticed is that the write performance increases with uncompressed RAW compared to compressed RAW which implies to me that the compression process is limiting the output to the card. In other words, compressed RAW output is throttled by the processing speed and not the card or transfer process. Unless I’m missing something. However, this small difference is inconsequential as you get a lot more compressed shots in the buffer than uncompressed shots so you’re far less likely to fill the buffer in the first place.
Cool stuff. Flash sync is 1/13 since the shutter is locked to silent mode so sensor readout is same as A7R II as expected, but at least one can use strobes with the Pixel Shift.
p.54 #17 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Since we are only 3 week away, it would be nice to have access to a series of 4-shot RAWs and use them with the Sony conversion software. It would answer all remaining questions we have.
p.54 #18 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
That is great. Thanks for the manuals. It looks like the camera is highly customizable, and that one can register shooting settings to custom keys, something pretty useful in bird photography.
