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Archive 2017 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!

  
 
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p.5 #1 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Fred Miranda wrote:
Get 1.5mm felt tape and cut it 1/4" width and ~10 inches long. Should work well with any filter even polarizers.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1503152/2#14144452


1/4" is about 6mm. I bought a roll of 1,5mm thick felt tape with 8mm instead of 6mm width now because i thought this is necessary because of my thicker ND Filter.

But i'm afraid that i can't get a good result from 14-24 with this. Maybe more like 17-24 because the filter has 2mm more space to the lens than with your solution!?

Here is my current filter:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B004HSLFWS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1



May 10, 2018 at 01:29 PM
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p.5 #2 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Dacoco wrote:
1/4" is about 6mm. I bought a roll of 1,5mm thick felt tape with 8mm instead of 6mm width now because i thought this is necessary because of my thicker ND Filter.

But i'm afraid that i can't get a good result from 14-24 with this. Maybe more like 17-24 because the filter has 2mm more space to the lens than with your solution!?

Here is my current filter:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B004HSLFWS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


just trim it down. I use gaffers tape and I simply stacked more and more until it was snug, and it works fine. it's not an exact science, you just wing it a little and adjust.



May 10, 2018 at 01:31 PM
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p.5 #3 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Hi, I found this wonderful topic, I'm trying with my Hoya 77mm nd1000 and I can't reach 14mm like all of you guys, only 16mm. Do you know maybe why? Is it not so large like yours? Is there something I could do to modify the filter? It's really hard to get a BREAKTHROUGH in Europe.

Thanks in advance



May 15, 2018 at 02:49 AM
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p.5 #4 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


I experienced exactly the same. 16 or 17mm without vignetting. 14 has big black parts in the corner of the image.
How wide is your filter?



May 15, 2018 at 03:47 AM
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p.5 #5 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!




Filter is 7.65cm
Glass is 7.2cm



May 16, 2018 at 11:35 AM
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p.5 #6 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


No I meant the other axis. The breakthrough seems to be 2mm thick and mine is 4mm. Because of the 2 more mm i think 14mm isn't possible


May 17, 2018 at 01:40 AM
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p.5 #7 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


4mm since the 2 edges, maybe 2.7mm since the highest edge to the glass.


May 17, 2018 at 04:35 AM
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p.5 #8 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Same here, I think this may be the problem.


May 18, 2018 at 01:10 AM
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p.5 #9 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


with 2mm less I'm pretty sure the lens will touch the glass, I'll send mine back to Amazon and I'll buy the breakthrough, I'll let you know


May 18, 2018 at 02:39 PM
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p.5 #10 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Anyone still using this set-up? I sold my 12-24/4 last year but remember this was a great way to use this lens with regular 77mm filters.


Oct 10, 2018 at 08:31 PM
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p.5 #11 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Fred Miranda wrote:
Anyone still using this set-up? I sold my 12-24/4 last year but remember this was a great way to use this lens with regular 77mm filters.


Hi Fred, I still use this method. I did buy an additional, thin and cheap 77mm filter. I broke this lens to use the 77mm ring. It gave me 2 things;

1. More surface area to apply the flocking tape on the outer edge.
2. Placed the actual glass of the ND/CPL a little bit farther away from the lens’ glass, allowing for me to get to around 13mm without any contact between lens and filter.

Edited on Oct 11, 2018 at 07:47 AM · View previous versions



Oct 10, 2018 at 08:56 PM
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p.5 #12 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


dshao1 wrote:
Hi Fred, I still use this method. I did buy an additional, thin and cheap 77mm filter. I broke this lens to use the 77mm ring. It gave me 2 things;

1. More surface area to apply the flocking tape on the outer edge.
2. Placed the actual glass of the ND/CPL a little bit farther away from the lens’ glass, allowing for me to get to around 13mm with any contact between lens and filter.


Sounds great. Can you show some pictures of your mod?



Oct 10, 2018 at 09:00 PM
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p.5 #13 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Sounds like a nice trick

dshao1 wrote:
Hi Fred, I still use this method. I did buy an additional, thin and cheap 77mm filter. I broke this lens to use the 77mm ring. It gave me 2 things;

1. More surface area to apply the flocking tape on the outer edge.
2. Placed the actual glass of the ND/CPL a little bit farther away from the lens’ glass, allowing for me to get to around 13mm with any contact between lens and filter.




Oct 10, 2018 at 09:26 PM
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p.5 #14 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


I wouldn’t call it much of a mod (I’m not that mechanically inclined ), but here you go. The extra ring really helps with the thin CPL because it makes it more accessible and easier to rotate.





























Oct 10, 2018 at 09:32 PM
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p.5 #15 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


This upcoming filter holder from Breakthrough is supposed to work with the 12-24:

https://breakthrough.photography/products/x100-holder?variant=13005112836138



Oct 18, 2018 at 05:03 PM
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p.5 #16 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Parariss wrote:
This upcoming filter holder from Breakthrough is supposed to work with the 12-24:

https://breakthrough.photography/products/x100-holder?variant=13005112836138


unless you chop the hood, I'm certain it wont work with 100mm filters, at least not with the full focal range. 100mm filters wont cover enough from what I recall.



Oct 18, 2018 at 05:17 PM
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p.5 #17 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Just put this together and it worked great. Bought the cheapest 77mm filter I could find, knocked out the glass, and put a 3/8" x 1.5mm felt wrap around it. Lined up the felt just about with the outer edge of the filter and folded the excess inward. Attached a Breakthrough X4 ND to it and pushed into the 12-14mm as far as it would go. Starting to get vignetting on one corner at 16mm, with some tweaking may be able to improve that. Lens can zoom the full range without hitting the filter.


Oct 28, 2018 at 02:36 PM
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p.5 #18 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


egaertner wrote:
Just put this together and it worked great. Bought the cheapest 77mm filter I could find, knocked out the glass, and put a 3/8" x 1.5mm felt wrap around it. Lined up the felt just about with the outer edge of the filter and folded the excess inward. Attached a Breakthrough X4 ND to it and pushed into the 12-14mm as far as it would go. Starting to get vignetting on one corner at 16mm, with some tweaking may be able to improve that. Lens can zoom the full range without hitting the filter.


Why not wrap the felt on the filter itself and push it down? It's likely more vignetting will be seen with 2 filters (the way you described)



Oct 28, 2018 at 02:58 PM
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p.5 #19 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


I wanted to prioritize the lens never hitting the filter over minimizing vignetting. Seemed too easy to forget and damage something when zooming wide.

It also made it easy to swap the ND onto other lenses, which wasn't possible with the felt on there. If I made the felt only as wide as the ND filter it probably would have worked, but with the wider felt hanging off the back it wasn't going.



Oct 28, 2018 at 07:18 PM
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p.5 #20 · Sony FE 12-24mm f/4 G with 77mm regular filters!


Has anyone used this system and cut off the 1cm on the two long pedals and experienced no vignette at 12mm ?https://bombofoto.com/products/100mm-filter-holder-for-sony-12-24mm-f-4-g?view=en


Nov 23, 2018 at 03:30 PM
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