MJKoski wrote:
Badum tishh! Shame that Fuji has not delivered what is expected of this kind of system. Then people glue all kinds of moldy things on their cameras.
If/when Fuji do, it will most likely be too wide, too large, too heavy and too expensive for me anyway. The Nikkor will be used mainly when biking, which requires small and lightweight lenses. I use the GF 50 for almost everything but sometimes I want something a bit wider. Not super mega stupid wide. The GF 30 is slightly too long to fit my bag, just like the Schneider 28 PC that I already got (and it's too wide).
Edit: By the way, I greased the shift mechanism and now the play is gone. Don't know if one is supposed to do that, and I won't keep the lens mounted on the camera when not in use, because I don't trust that grease. Some of it might evaporate and end up condensing on my sensor.
Makten wrote:
Just bought a Nikkor 35/2.8 PC (black knob = latest version) and realized that you can use the full 11 mm of shift on the GFX. At least if there's nothing in the corners, because they have zero sharpness. The lens seems pretty sharp over most of the frame, unshifted, but you have to stop down quite a bit. Mine also has a terrible play in the shift mechanism, so until I've fixed that, I must press the lens firmly against the camera to get it perpendicular to the sensor.
This is 11 mm rise @ f/11, no vignetting correction (actually straight out of camera, but with XRAW studio). As you might be able to see, there's a lot of LaCA even if the camera handles it pretty well. Not much color cast, which made me very happy.
I had the 28mm cousin of that PC-Nikkor. At first it made me happy. But then it made me sad. I'd really like something excellent at 28mm that shifts well, but it's not that one. Glad to hear that your PC-Nikkor 35 has some promise.
Makten wrote:
If/when Fuji do, it will most likely be too wide, too large, too heavy and too expensive for me anyway. The Nikkor will be used mainly when biking, which requires small and lightweight lenses. I use the GF 50 for almost everything but sometimes I want something a bit wider. Not super mega stupid wide. The GF 30 is slightly too long to fit my bag, just like the Schneider 28 PC that I already got (and it's too wide).
Exactly right. Plus nothing Fuji will make in a tilt-shift lens can replace the movements I have now, let alone cover all the focal lengths I like to use.
I just bought the Laowa 14mm rl ff from a member and am going to get the petals removed when I get it and test it on the GFX100. I wanted the 9mm, but am gonna wait for a used one, cause it's gonna need surgery too for the hood to be out of the frame.
I just bought the Laowa 14mm rl ff from a member and am going to get the petals removed when I get it and test it on the GFX100. I wanted the 9mm, but am gonna wait for a used one, cause it's gonna need surgery too for the hood to be out of the frame.
That's pretty neat 👆🏻
Here's a pic from my brief time adapting lenses to the 50R. Here we have the Voigtlander 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar
Makten wrote:
If/when Fuji do, it will most likely be too wide, too large, too heavy and too expensive for me anyway. The Nikkor will be used mainly when biking, which requires small and lightweight lenses. I use the GF 50 for almost everything but sometimes I want something a bit wider. Not super mega stupid wide. The GF 30 is slightly too long to fit my bag, just like the Schneider 28 PC that I already got (and it's too wide).
Edit: By the way, I greased the shift mechanism and now the play is gone. Don't know if one is supposed to do that, and I won't keep the lens mounted on the camera when not in use, because I don't trust that grease. Some of it might evaporate and end up condensing on my sensor. ...Show more →
GF30 is very much like GF45. At least it is smaller than the huge(ish) GF23. But yes, attaching GF30 to 50R creates a combination which is about the size of a DSLR with 24-70 zoom.
MJKoski wrote:
GF30 is very much like GF45. At least it is smaller than the huge(ish) GF23. But yes, attaching GF30 to 50R creates a combination which is about the size of a DSLR with 24-70 zoom.
Yeah, it's not too large for what it is; it's just that my bag that I use when mountainbiking is too small. The GF 45 just barely fits and the 30 is a tad longer, unfortunately.
The Nikkor PC is about the size of an old 50/1.8 lens, but maybe ~1 cm longer. And I'll probably don't need more than ~5 mm of shift for that particular application, so hopefully it will do about as good as a decent 28 mm lens on 24x36. Especially without using shift.
Some more testing with the Nikkor 35/2.8 PC today. It seems pretty good, but behaves very inconsistently. I think it might be because of the helicoid being dry, so that the optical assembly can get a tiny bit tilted when focusing sometimes. I've got images at f/2.8 that are surprisingly sharp, while other images are just a mess at f/11. Makes no sense. The image circle is way larger than I thought though! You can easily use the full 11 mm of shift, if you accept smeary corners. There is a tiny darkening of the far corners, that's all. Very easy to correct if needed.
I tried to disassemble the lens yesterday to regrease the helicoid, but got stuck without special tools. It's also a bit scary to take something apart without having any idea of in what order it's supposed to be done.
This was at f/5.6 and DOF wasn't enough to cover the left wheel of the bike. I think I used ~5 mm of fall, and I've added heavy vignetting to get a nicer mood. As you can see, the stopped down bokeh is great and the field is pretty flat.
The far corners look very dark when the files load in post, but they are easily corrected. These are 100 on the correction slider in C1 for falloff just to show what can be done. They actually look a little better when some vignetting is left in there.
How noisy are those corners though? Have you tried at a normal shooting distance? I tried with my 75/1.5 and it's not acceptable/usable without cropping.
highdesertmesa wrote:
Voigtlander 75mm f/1.5 adapted to the GFX.
The far corners look very dark when the files load in post, but they are easily corrected. These are 100 on the correction slider in C1 for falloff just to show what can be done. They actually look a little better when some vignetting is left in there.
thrice wrote:
How noisy are those corners though? Have you tried at a normal shooting distance? I tried with my 75/1.5 and it's not acceptable/usable without cropping.
This has been my experience too. I use the 4 X 5 in camera crop and then frame a little loosely to crop just a bit more. I like the lens on Medium format, but for me it is a lens where I plan to crop and not use the full image circle.
thrice wrote:
How noisy are those corners though? Have you tried at a normal shooting distance? I tried with my 75/1.5 and it's not acceptable/usable without cropping.
GFX seems to be penalty-free when recovering heavy, dark corners at low ISO, which is where I usually am shooting wide open. This shot was at MFD – didn't have time to try further back – it might need cropping for that. But I also stupidly had the hood and filter on for this shot, so I need to try it again
But my Minolta 85 2.8 Varisoft works so well on the GFX, I can't see using the CV 75 in its place. The CV will probably be used exclusively on the M10-R.
I got the Laowa 14mm rl ff thing here is shot to test vignette f22 infinity contrast cranked up.
Already scheduled to get the petals chopped off locally.
No the resolution isn't great, but I think it'll work just fine for my needs. I was going to get the 9mm rl ff then chop off the petals, but this one is smaller and can use 52mm filters without vignette post surgery
EDIT: actually it's pretty good! I think once the petals are removed I'm set for my UWA. I think this was f/5.6 but it was pretty good WO at f4 too DSCF1206 by Visual Novel, on Flickr
I got the petals removed today and there is some vignette/smearing in the extreme corners but nothing crazy. overall pretty happy and I can use 52mm filter. I also have a 52 to 82mm filter thing as well.
The original friction hood works perfect so overall I'm pretty happy with the size to iq ratio.
Here is a shot outside the shop that did the surgery (you can see the smear/vignette):
Yeah, I like it a lot. Laowa and 7artisans have been very good on the gfx. I'm gonna order the 7A wen pancake thing again since they released a full black version.
Some more samples of the Laowa 14 rl ff petals cut:
First is unedited with zero sharpening, second is processed, I prefer the unedited photos, but just to show correction and what you can extract out of the files.
The GF 30 is slightly too long to fit my bag, just like the Schneider 28 PC that I already got (and it's too wide). 
I'd really like something excellent at 28mm that shifts well, but it's not that one. Glad to hear that your PC-Nikkor 35 has some promise. 
