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 p.29 #11 · Adapting Lenses to the Fuji GFX | |
engardeknave wrote:
Yes, and basketball players are not tall because you saw a child shooting hoops at a park. Let's break out those Canon 85/1.4 sales figures and compare to the Petval monolith that is taking photography by storm.
I don't even know why I'm still taking to you people. As if 90% of every lens review isn't about sharpness. Total insanity.
That can cut both ways.
Yes, sharpness is included in reviews ... as it should be. But, there are are plenty of other things to review on a lens as well. I'm not sure if you've ever checked out LensTip reviews, but their format punches down the line on different aspects, sequentially.
But, here's the thing ... its kinda like talking about sports cars. Sure, they all talk about speed, and how fast they can go. Rookie's think top end is what makes for a great sports car. Those who know sports cars know that there is a lot more than top end that makes a great sports car. If all you want to do is talk about speed of car A vs. car B ... well, for those who know that it is more than that, you wind up showing just how little you know by about sports cars by always talking about speed. Silly little things like handling, responsiveness, stability, braking, shifting, etc. might be something worthy too. Keep talking about speed, while dismissing the other things ... yeah, you probably should stop talking to other people, if that's the only one trick pony you want to pound on. Maybe there comes a time to start listening to other people, and stop talking about such a narrow focus ... SPEED, SPEED. SPEED I SAY !!! Dadgummit, you aren't listening to me. It's SPEED, I tell ya, SPEED, SPEED, SPEED. You guys don't know what you're talking about. You should be talking about SPEED. I don't know why I'm still talking to you ... (about SPEED).  
If all you know about lenses is sharpness ... well, then you're kinda showing everyone just how little you know about lenses. Granted, most all of us probably STARTED learning about lenses by being focused on sharpness (I'm guilty as charged  ). But, many progress beyond the sharpness thing, to realize that there are other attributes that can make (or break) a lens in different ways than sharpness can compensate for.
Nothing wrong with sharpness ... thinking that it is the holy grail of a lens may not be sage. Case in point ... my Nikon 28/2.8 AIS is sharper in the center than my Oly 28/3.5. However, my Oly is sharper in the corners than the Nikon. So, because the Oly has more even resolution across the frame, I prefer it to the Nikon for landscape type images. Whereas for central subjects (say floral), I may opt for the Nikon. Then, there's my C/Y 28/2.8 which kinda combines or splits the difference a bit, but is a bit better corrected, so the microcontrast is a bit more. Central sharpness on the Nikon still shreds, but it isn't as well corrected in all areas.
So, if you want to talk about sharpness, at least give credence to the fact that lens designs have to make decisions that influence favor different areas of the projected image ... oh, and at what distances. Not all lenses are optimized the same way for distances either.
It's not that seasoned veterans (particularly in the Alt Forum) aren't fully aware of sharpness. It's just that so many of them have progressed beyond that hyper-uber-pixel peeping sharpness discussion that it isn't a hyper focused discussion point. I mean ... ummm, this IS the Alt Forum. Sharpness is SOOOO mainstream thinking. No problem with such thinking ... but, ummm why would you be so put off by people in the Alt Forum, discussing things that are an ... oh, gee IDK ... an alternate to such mainstream hyper-focus on SPEED, SPEED, SPEED ... errr, I mean sharpness.
BTW, if you want to talk about Canon sales figures ... go to the Canon Forum (I shoot Canon, too). This is the Alt Forum ... get it, ALTERNATE, different from Canon (by Fred's definition for the Forum).
I don't mean to sound like a total jerk about this ... but, this is the Alt Forum. And, it is THE PLACE where I learned a whole lot about lenses a long time ago, from a whole lot of really knowledgeable and helpful people (some have since gone, some have stayed). If your mission is to TALK seasoned Alt Forum members into placing a hyper-focus discussion on sharpness ... well, pack a lunch, it'll be a long day.
I hope that makes a lick of sense ... SPEED, Man, SPEED. Don't you know it's all about SPEED. 
Your call if you want to continue talking to these people. Also, your call if you want to start asking good questions and listening to these people. That doesn't mean you have to agree with everyone or everything. It doesn't mean you have to use or follow everything ... but, you just might learn a thing or two (which can also help you with better understanding your Canon glass, too) along the way. 
So, if you want to take your basketball and go home (i.e. stop talking with these good folks), you can do that too. Keep pounding sharpness in the Alt Forum to seasoned, veteran Alt Forum members ... now that's real insanity, imo. 
Either way ... your call.
HTH
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