Dmitri, I am new to the Fuji and am finding that it reacts to a higher ss very well. I also have tremors in my hands. And when they start, it can get terrible! The IBIS takes care of it as does a higher ss.
Thanks!
Dan
Danpbphoto wrote:
Dmitri, I am new to the Fuji and am finding that it reacts to a higher ss very well. I also have tremors in my hands. And when they start, it can get terrible! The IBIS takes care of it as does a higher ss.
Thanks!
Dan
Dan, thank you for responding - I understand your choice of fast SS. I am thinking about adding a GFX100S II with the 20-35mm F4 zoom this September, when I return home from Japan. For this reason, I have been following the related threads on the Fuji forum, and watching and reading many reviews to get a better understanding of the medium format systems. My main interest is in utilizing the outstanding dynamic range at ISO 80-100; thus, I am interested in keeping the SS as low as necessary to achieve this goal. As I prefer shooting hand-held, the IBIS is very important to me. My other two kits are built around Sony A1 and OM-1 II cameras. Both are excellent in their dissimilar ways. The IBIS of OM-1 II is phenomenal - shooting with SS as long as 2-3s in the normal to wide FLs is routine. If your hands should give you more trouble in the future (hopefully not!), shooting OM-1 II might be a consideration.
ruthenium wrote:
Dan, thank you for responding - I understand your choice of fast SS. I am thinking about adding a GFX100S II with the 20-35mm F4 zoom this September, when I return home from Japan. For this reason, I have been following the related threads on the Fuji forum, and watching and reading many reviews to get a better understanding of the medium format systems. My main interest is in utilizing the outstanding dynamic range at ISO 80-100; thus, I am interested in keeping the SS as low as necessary to achieve this goal. As I prefer shooting hand-held, the IBIS is very important to me. My other two kits are built around Sony A1 and OM-1 II cameras. Both are excellent in their dissimilar ways. The IBIS of OM-1 II is phenomenal - shooting with SS as long as 2-3s in the normal to wide FLs is routine. If your hands should give you more trouble in the future (hopefully not!), shooting OM-1 II might be a consideration. ...Show more →
I am a still very early into my learning curve Dmitri.
I am overwhelmed by all the "bells and whistles" that can be optioned.
The detail in the MF is mind boggling! I also like the lower ISO's..not above 400 if I can.
For now I am ONLY shooting hand held.
I have a mass of Canon dslr gear and do not plan on getting rid of it.
I too am looking for a UWA GF lens. I have the Fringer EF-GF adapter but have encountered some issues with different Canon lenses and the Fuji.
I am sure it is my "ignorance" of how or what the Fuji menus relate to camera operation with an adapter and Canon lenses.
My issues with hand tremors can get very wobbley, hence higher settings.
The Canon FD 20mm looks surprisingly good. If you cropped to a 3x2 aspect ratio it looks like it would be fine. Have you tried that and what is the edge performance like?
I ask because I have this lens and am acquiring a GFX. I wonder if I should invest in an adapter?
Geoff D F wrote:
The Canon FD 20mm looks surprisingly good. If you cropped to a 3x2 aspect ratio it looks like it would be fine. Have you tried that and what is the edge performance like?
I ask because I have this lens and am acquiring a GFX. I wonder if I should invest in an adapter?
According to the spreadsheet on Adapted lenses for the GFX it shows it was supposed to be fine for all modes(3x4,2x3,etc). One of the reasons I took the lens on my 2nd outing with the GFX. Wasn't shooting for controlling or checking edge performance. My focus point was on the left side of the frame. Don't recall what f-stop I used. Once I saw the hard vignetting I put the lens away. Not really a shot for testing edge performance. When I zoom in the top right had really bad edge performance but that could be for many reasons.
Geoff D F wrote:
The Canon FD 20mm looks surprisingly good. If you cropped to a 3x2 aspect ratio it looks like it would be fine. Have you tried that and what is the edge performance like?
I ask because I have this lens and am acquiring a GFX. I wonder if I should invest in an adapter?
Gday cobber!
The investment into an adapter may be best "tested" if you can rent one mate.
I jumped right in on the Fringer EF-GFX. They are NOT cheap in price or build.
Most, if not all the images, posted here by members using that adapter are excellent. I have had issues with some Canon lenses but am not ready to "blame" the adapter or EF lenses.
This is all new for me so I blame myself for crappy images.
The extremely hot weather here this summer has kept me indoors but for some local dedicated shots not using an adapter.
The Fotodix adapter is very reasonable but have NOT seen images with EF lenses on GFX body.
Good luck cobber!
Digger
Has anyone used a GFX camera with the Kipon adapter for Leica S lenses and any of the Leica S lenses? I have always thought that the Leica S lenses have some interesting options (particularly the 120 f/2.5 APO macro, the 70 f/2.5, the 180 f/3.5, and the 35 f/2.5). Prices have plummeted on these lenses (but are still high) since Leica announced they are not developing the S system anymore. Any reports of experiences with these lenses on a Fuji GFX camera would be much appreciated.
Steve Spencer wrote:
Has anyone used a GFX camera with the Kipon adapter for Leica S lenses and any of the Leica S lenses? I have always thought that the Leica S lenses have some interesting options (particularly the 120 f/2.5 APO macro, the 70 f/2.5, the 180 f/3.5, and the 35 f/2.5). Prices have plummeted on these lenses (but are still high) since Leica announced they are not developing the S system anymore. Any reports of experiences with these lenses on a Fuji GFX camera would be much appreciated.
Steve I have been following a thread on the Leica Forum(not FM) which I am a member of- there has been some successes and some setbacks for early adopters of Kipon adapter.
Fuji GFX 100S II + Viltrox Canon EF to GFX adapter + Canon 40/2.8
The Viltrox adapter works really well with this combo. The Canon 40/2.8 is the only Canon EF lens I own so I wasn't going to spend the big bucks on the other AF adapters.
burningheart wrote:
Steve I have been following a thread on the Leica Forum(not FM) which I am a member of- there has been some successes and some setbacks for early adopters of Kipon adapter.
The meaningful comments start on page 9. Note you won't be able to see images unless you are a signed on member.
Thank you for the link. It does clarify things substantially. It sounds like if you are willing to use manual focus, that the adapter mostly works, but there are still some issues getting the focal length and f/number reported properly if you switch between lenses which can affect the IBIS. Hopefully they will work that out soon. Using the adapter with AF and with the leaf shutter versions is even more a work in progress.
For my primary purpose which would be to adapt the Leica S 125 f/2.5 APO Macro, it should work well. I am not sure I would get any other lenses, so no issues with not recognizing the new lens when I switch lenses and for that lens I don't really care about AF at all.
Steve Spencer wrote:
Thank you for the link. It does clarify things substantially. It sounds like if you are willing to use manual focus, that the adapter mostly works, but there are still some issues getting the focal length and f/number reported properly if you switch between lenses which can affect the IBIS. Hopefully they will work that out soon. Using the adapter with AF and with the leaf shutter versions is even more a work in progress.
For my primary purpose which would be to adapt the Leica S 125 f/2.5 APO Macro, it should work well. I am not sure I would get any other lenses, so no issues with not recognizing the new lens when I switch lenses and for that lens I don't really care about AF at all. ...Show more →
You are welcome Steve. Looks like it will work out for you. I still follow as I have interest in the S system, though with it being end of life camera wise I opted for a GFX which has a future. There are some S lenses I would potentially want to use on the GFX. For now I just follow as I fill in the must have for my photographic endeavours GF lenses.
You're thought of just using MF on S lenses never dawned on me.
Steve Spencer wrote:
Thank you for the link. It does clarify things substantially. It sounds like if you are willing to use manual focus, that the adapter mostly works, but there are still some issues getting the focal length and f/number reported properly if you switch between lenses which can affect the IBIS. Hopefully they will work that out soon. Using the adapter with AF and with the leaf shutter versions is even more a work in progress.
For my primary purpose which would be to adapt the Leica S 125 f/2.5 APO Macro, it should work well. I am not sure I would get any other lenses, so no issues with not recognizing the new lens when I switch lenses and for that lens I don't really care about AF at all. ...Show more →
Hi Steve, Just saw your question. Yes, I have the adapter and have been using it with my S glasses. There are a few quirks here and there still especially the adapter can't support 180/120mm and 100mm at the same time. Depend on which one is first attached to the adapter after firmware update.
At early stage, my 120 works but not 180 and 100mm. Then along with multiple firmware updates, now either 120/180mm (120 will always be treated as 180mm now) or 100mm will be supported. I don't think this is the case for all user reports. (at least some claim 120mm is supported) It seems lens (firmware) dependent and also Fuji body dependent. There is Facebook group for Kipon S lens adapter. Kipon has done a fairly decent job keep improving the firmware since introduction.
I dont use AF function, it is usable but slow. slower than S native body which is already quite slow by itself. However, it fully meet my requirements and give a new life for these wonderful S glasses. Shooting experience is great that you can shooting any aperture and focus wide open in Aperture priority mode with real focus ring. 35/70/120/180 set will be as good as you can get from any manufacturer I would say in term of performance and rendering at cost of relative big size and heavy weight.
For my case, 24/35/70 never have any issues, 100/120/180 have different issues with different firmwares. I am confident the adapter will work for all of them given Kipon enough time.
zhangyue wrote:
Hi Steve, Just saw your question. Yes, I have the adapter and have been using it with my S glasses. There are a few quirks here and there still especially the adapter can't support 180/120mm and 100mm at the same time. Depend on which one is first attached to the adapter after firmware update.
At early stage, my 120 works but not 180 and 100mm. Then along with multiple firmware updates, now either 120/180mm (120 will always be treated as 180mm now) or 100mm will be supported. I don't think this is the case for all user reports. (at least some claim 120mm is supported) It seems lens (firmware) dependent and also Fuji body dependent. There is Facebook group for Kipon S lens adapter. Kipon has done a fairly decent job keep improving the firmware since introduction.
I dont use AF function, it is usable but slow. slower than S native body which is already quite slow by itself. However, it fully meet my requirements and give a new life for these wonderful S glasses. Shooting experience is great that you can shooting any aperture and focus wide open in Aperture priority mode with real focus ring. 35/70/120/180 set will be as good as you can get from any manufacturer I would say in term of performance and rendering at cost of relative big size and heavy weight.
For my case, 24/35/70 never have any issues, 100/120/180 have different issues with different firmwares. I am confident the adapter will work for all of them given Kipon enough time. ...Show more →
Thanks Michael. I appreciate your reporting your experience with the adapter. I think, if I remember correctly, you have the Zeiss 120 f/4 APO macro Contax 645, which is a lens I have and love. How does the Leica 120 f/2.5 APO macro compare to that lens for macro work? Obviously the Zeiss lens focusses to 1:1 magnification, whereas the Leica lens only focusses to 1:2 magnification and the Leica lens is a stop and a third faster, but other than those obvious differences how do you feel the lenses compare?
Hi Steve, I have both and both are awesome. Contax can be adapted by fringer adapter but not with Contax to Leica and Leica to Fuji GFX.
If I have to pick one, it will be Leica as it offers higher contrast, faster speed sharper and almost as good bokeh. Contax offer better mechanical quality for manual focus and 1:1 and slightly softer bokeh. It is also lighter. The one drawback for c120 is back light performance is very poor, Leica is not the best here but it is better than C120.
Steve Spencer wrote:
Thanks Michael. I appreciate your reporting your experience with the adapter. I think, if I remember correctly, you have the Zeiss 120 f/4 APO macro Contax 645, which is a lens I have and love. How does the Leica 120 f/2.5 APO macro compare to that lens for macro work? Obviously the Zeiss lens focusses to 1:1 magnification, whereas the Leica lens only focusses to 1:2 magnification and the Leica lens is a stop and a third faster, but other than those obvious differences how do you feel the lenses compare?
Thought I'd mention some results from trying out some, mostly cheap, EF glass on the GFX as it may be useful to others. I'm using the Fringer EF to GFX adapter, and the GFX 50s ii, which has contrast detect only.
AF performance is quite usable with this combo, but forget it if you need to track moving subjects. Focus tends to overshoot and then draw back to lock focus, but it does so quick enough.
EF 40mm f2.8 can be happily recommended, as is widely known. It is a bit smeary in the corners in 4x3 mode, and just in the extreme corners in 3x2 mode. It works great in 65x24 crop.
EF 28mm f2.8 USM IS hard vignettes but just in the extreme corners for 4x3 and ever so slightly for 3x2. For the panorama shooters it works very well in 16x9 and 65x24 with just a tiny bit of smearing in the extreme corners which for many subjects is not noticeable. It's is a viable option for X-pan fans as 28mm on GFX is close to the field of view of the standard 40mm X- pan lens
EF 100mm f2.8 USM macro (non L) can also be recommended. There is no vignetting at all in 4x3 mode even at f2.8. This lens is sharp.
EF 85mm f1.8 USM is somewhat recommended. It vignettes in 4x3 mode but is useable in 3x2 mode and could work as a cheap and pretty sharp portrait lens.
The 24-70mm f4 L USM, the 24-105mm f3.5-5.6 STM and ancient 70-210mm f3.5-4.5 USM are all not recommended. They hard vignette in 4x3 through most of the zoom range and are less than ideal even in 3x2 crop, though obviously can be used in 35mm mode.
