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Archive 2017 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G

  
 
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p.21 #1 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


I canceled my order as my 12-24 looks to be really good but I need to run a Big Bronco test on it when I get home to be sure


Jul 17, 2017 at 04:00 PM
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p.21 #2 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


After getting to know this lens for 10 days, I found a couple interesting things about the 12-24G:

1) There is some edge stretching, especially at the wider range (12-18mm). A distortion correction profile could make this even more apparent.

2) Although field curvature is well-controlled, I detected a "wave-type" shape curvature, especially at the wider range. When focusing at mid-field (infinity), the edges and center are not perfectly focused and need focusing "away" from infinity. When focusing at center, the edges look great but mid-field degrades and needs focusing "towards" infinity. That could be one of the reasons some members are reporting softer corners.



Jul 18, 2017 at 11:14 AM
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p.21 #3 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


I am interested in the 16-35 2.8 only if it is very good at astro... which includes no crazy vignetting like the new Canon. Otherwise you can almost add the Batis 18mm which is a great astro lens with the 16-35 f4 for not that much extra weight/cost. Plus, you can leave the Batis at home during the day and the 16-35 at home during the night.


Jul 18, 2017 at 11:37 AM
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p.21 #4 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


Schlotkins wrote:
I am interested in the 16-35 2.8 only if it is very good at astro... which includes no crazy vignetting like the new Canon. Otherwise you can almost add the Batis 18mm which is a great astro lens with the 16-35 f4 for not that much extra weight/cost. Plus, you can leave the Batis at home during the day and the 16-35 at home during the night.


For astro, I would wait for my Laowa 15/2 test. I can't say much yet though.



Jul 18, 2017 at 12:03 PM
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p.21 #5 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


Shoot, I was all set to go 16-35 GM, now the 12-24 and possibility of the Laowa 15/2 have me second guessing.


Jul 18, 2017 at 07:41 PM
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p.21 #6 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


Lightroom 2015.12 and Camera RAW 9.12 now include profiles for both this lenses: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/whats-new-in-lightroom-cc-2015-12-6-12/




Jul 19, 2017 at 05:59 AM
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p.21 #7 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


I ordered the Nisi 150mm filter holder but it may not get here till August. I'll have to debate which polarizer. I like Haida and Breakthrough as they are very neutral. Have to see if they make a 150mm.

I'm driving home from NY so I'll get on it late in the week and order one



Jul 19, 2017 at 07:53 AM
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p.21 #8 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


dgpfotografia wrote:
Lightroom 2015.12 and Camera RAW 9.12 now include profiles for both this lenses: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/whats-new-in-lightroom-cc-2015-12-6-12/



Awesome!, I was just coming to this thread to ask when we would usually expect profiles for these new lenses in LR



Jul 19, 2017 at 10:42 AM
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p.21 #9 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


Some more field testing https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/hands-review/berry-fields-sony-fe-16-35mm-f28-gm-lens


Jul 19, 2017 at 05:07 PM
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p.21 #10 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


photomadnz wrote:
Some more field testing https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/hands-review/berry-fields-sony-fe-16-35mm-f28-gm-lens


I'm really interested to see the comparisons between this lens, the 12-24 and the 16-35 f4. I'm pretty sure how they will end up from best to worst but I'm mostly curious to see how much difference there is between the 12-24/16-35 f2.8 and the 16-35 f4.



Jul 19, 2017 at 06:26 PM
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p.21 #11 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


dgpfotografia wrote:
Lightroom 2015.12 and Camera RAW 9.12 now include profiles for both this lenses: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/whats-new-in-lightroom-cc-2015-12-6-12/



I'm not sure, but I think Adobe screwed up on this profile.

I think they may have had the RAW profile turned off when they did the LR profile, because I think they have double-adjusted for falloff.

If not, they may have done it with too heavy of a hand, because it appears the new profile is overcompensating for falloff.



Jul 19, 2017 at 07:23 PM
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p.21 #12 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


I have the 12-24 and am tempted by the GM16-35 as my 16-35Z died at the hands of high wind.


Jul 19, 2017 at 07:25 PM
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p.21 #13 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


mjm6 wrote:
I'm not sure, but I think Adobe screwed up on this profile.

I think they may have had the RAW profile turned off when they did the LR profile, because I think they have double-adjusted for falloff.

If not, they may have done it with too heavy of a hand, because it appears the new profile is overcompensating for falloff.


I agree with that. The vignetting correction for the new 12-24/4G profile looks overdone by a large margin.



Jul 19, 2017 at 11:51 PM
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p.21 #14 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


I'm just about done dealing with this 12-24 testing and musical lens chairs. I have a decently good one, and am pleased I think.

One thing I wanted to say is that my 24-70 GM beats the 12-24 at 24mm pretty easily. I think that's to be expected, so there is room for improvement (in a 16-35 GM possibly?). The 12-24 beats my 16-35 f4 I believe so this is a step up, and I gain the coverage at the wide end, so I think it is a good trade off.

I don't think I'll be getting the 16-35 GM, but will be watching with interest as reports of that lens start to come out. It sounds like we can look forward to that showing up early in August...

Plus the 100-400 will drop in a few days too.

Lots to be excited about with Sony FE cameras at the moment.



Jul 20, 2017 at 12:18 AM
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p.21 #15 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


For those of you in the UK, I just got an email from Wex stating that they have received their stock of 16-35 GM lenses and will be shipping today. So hopefully will get my copy tomorrow.

They also mentioned to me on the phone that they have received enough stock to satisfy all pre-orders they currently have.



Jul 20, 2017 at 08:48 AM
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p.21 #16 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


Awesome!


Jul 20, 2017 at 09:15 AM
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p.21 #17 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


I'm wondering if anyone has any observations from experience of the new Sony 12-24 as compared to the Zeiss 18? I think that's the choice that I'm currently looking at. I very much like my Batis 25, and the size in the bag of the new zoom or the Batis 18 are reasonably similar.

I do understand the zoom versatiility of course, but I also appreciate the primes that are sharper out to the edges at lower apertures compared to typical zooms. (My 16-35/f4 needs around f8 to have frame edges that come anywhere close to the Batis 25 at, say, f5.6 or so. DOF discussions aside.)

I may or may not sell my the 16-35.

Thanks
Brian



Jul 20, 2017 at 10:23 AM
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p.21 #18 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


Blueshound wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone has any observations from experience of the new Sony 12-24 as compared to the Zeiss 18? I think that's the choice that I'm currently looking at. I very much like my Batis 25, and the size in the bag of the new zoom or the Batis 18 are reasonably similar.

I do understand the zoom versatiility of course, but I also appreciate the primes that are sharper out to the edges at lower apertures compared to typical zooms. (My 16-35/f4 needs around f8 to have frame edges that come anywhere close to the Batis 25 at, say,
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Hi Brian,
Chuck posted a comparison against he Batis18 here:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1498485/8#14102011



Jul 20, 2017 at 10:34 AM
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p.21 #19 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


Thanks Fred. I had been travelling and missed Chuck's posts. I think his results pretty much seal the deal for me as re: ordering the 12-24. And I probably won't keep my 16-35/4.

Big thanks to Chuck for his efforts with those comparisons!

Brian



Jul 20, 2017 at 11:09 AM
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p.21 #20 · Pre-order Now! Sony FE 16-35/2.8 GM and FE 12-24/4 G


I ordered the Nisi 150mm holder on Amazon it was going to come next month. Well it's coming tomorrow via UPS. Wow need to order a CPL now


Jul 20, 2017 at 11:15 AM
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