C-sonnar!
p.6 #1C-sonnar!
GMPhotography wrote:
From my casual reading of the Jupiter i picked up on the bokeh , flare are not as good as the Zeiss which he seems to love more. Not sure about it myself as even at 650 its not that far away from a used Zeiss which i like the output better.
That was my issue with the Jupiter 3+.. Why would I pay $650 for anything made by lomography.com, and especially when the actual Zeiss lens can be had for $150-$200 more?
Maybe if it was $200-$250 I could see it..
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From my casual reading of the Jupiter i picked up on the bokeh , flare are not as good as the Zeiss which he seems to love more. Not sure about it myself as even at 650 its not that far away from a used Zeiss which i like the output better.
That was my issue with the Jupiter 3+.. Why would I pay $650 for anything made by lomography.com, and especially when the actual Zeiss lens can be had for $150-$200 more?
Maybe if it was $200-$250 I could see it..
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Sep 08, 2016 at 10:56 AM
p.6 #2C-sonnar!
Well I've succumbed. As per usual, after a busy FM thread, all used copies are gone, so I just ordered new from Leica Shop in anticipation of a trip in a couple weeks. Ends up being less than a US version even after the rebate credit card hassle. Fred and Guy (you too David), I'm going to ask you to stop picking up so many lenses I don't yet own and showing what can be done with them. I survived the ZM 35/1.4 barrage just barely, but this one was too much to resist! By the way Fred, beautiful family, and I'm glad you explained why you were stopping down a bit. f/1.5 for funk, and f/1.7 to smooth it out a bit.
This lens checks my boxes as a smaller albeit longer substitute for my ZF 35/1.4. I've always loved the SA and field curvature of that lens for environmental portraits, but it's truly cumbersome to carry around, especially adapted to a Sony. If I gel with the C-Sonnar, I can probably sell the ZF35/1.4, CV35/1.2, and get the ZM35/1.4.
I also decided to try out the Kolari mod on my old A7. I have my ZM25/2.8 and ZM35/2.8 on the B&S, but I'm going to take them down to play with on the new camera. If they look good, particularly the C-Biogon as I'm hoping, I'm starting my own thread showing it's awesomeness as friendly revenge
This lens checks my boxes as a smaller albeit longer substitute for my ZF 35/1.4. I've always loved the SA and field curvature of that lens for environmental portraits, but it's truly cumbersome to carry around, especially adapted to a Sony. If I gel with the C-Sonnar, I can probably sell the ZF35/1.4, CV35/1.2, and get the ZM35/1.4.
I also decided to try out the Kolari mod on my old A7. I have my ZM25/2.8 and ZM35/2.8 on the B&S, but I'm going to take them down to play with on the new camera. If they look good, particularly the C-Biogon as I'm hoping, I'm starting my own thread showing it's awesomeness as friendly revenge
Sep 08, 2016 at 10:57 AM
p.6 #3C-sonnar!
uscmatt99 wrote:
If they look good, particularly the C-Biogon as I'm hoping, I'm starting my own thread showing it's awesomeness as friendly revenge
Don't you dare.. I was looking at that lens earlier, I can't afford to pick that one up after the TAP and C-Sonnar threads.. :P
If they look good, particularly the C-Biogon as I'm hoping, I'm starting my own thread showing it's awesomeness as friendly revenge
Don't you dare.. I was looking at that lens earlier, I can't afford to pick that one up after the TAP and C-Sonnar threads.. :P
Sep 08, 2016 at 11:04 AM
p.6 #4C-sonnar!
You know this about the worst time to not have any gear money. Photokinia is hitting in a few days announcements from Sony tomorrow. Im thinking a ticket to dessert island so i can't read any of this. 
Sep 08, 2016 at 11:16 AM
p.6 #5C-sonnar!
Guy - will there be announcements by Sony tomorrow? That would be great.
Sep 08, 2016 at 11:25 AM
p.6 #6C-sonnar!
GMPhotography wrote:
You know this about the worst time to not have any gear money. Photokinia is hitting in a few days announcements from Sony tomorrow. Im thinking a ticket to dessert island so i can't read any of this.
that's why i sold my a7r2, FE 35/1.4 and Batis 25 over the past 2 wks.....it could be an interesting Fall !!
one question i have for you guys and this TAP and the formerly MF lenses - just how good is the AF?
i don't need it to track someone running around, but is it 'great' from the perspective of an MF lens? or is it 'great' relative to something we consider 'slow' like the 85GM (which i don't think is that bad, but just to use an example that some complained they thought was slow) ?
You know this about the worst time to not have any gear money. Photokinia is hitting in a few days announcements from Sony tomorrow. Im thinking a ticket to dessert island so i can't read any of this.
that's why i sold my a7r2, FE 35/1.4 and Batis 25 over the past 2 wks.....it could be an interesting Fall !!
one question i have for you guys and this TAP and the formerly MF lenses - just how good is the AF?
i don't need it to track someone running around, but is it 'great' from the perspective of an MF lens? or is it 'great' relative to something we consider 'slow' like the 85GM (which i don't think is that bad, but just to use an example that some complained they thought was slow) ?
Sep 08, 2016 at 11:28 AM
p.6 #7C-sonnar!
Sony has a press conference on the 9th. I got a feeling watching them raise the price of the RXr1 II they way they did it was to halt sales for a new body and the 42mpx sensor given the earthquake was replaced with a new sensor for a new camera. Thats my thinking and i could be completely dead wrong. But i think a new body is being announced soon here
Sep 08, 2016 at 11:29 AM
p.6 #8C-sonnar!
ecarlino wrote:
that's why i sold my a7r2, FE 35/1.4 and Batis 25 over the past 2 wks.....it could be an interesting Fall !!
one question i have for you guys and this TAP and the formerly MF lenses - just how good is the AF?
i don't need it to track someone running around, but is it 'great' from the perspective of an MF lens? or is it 'great' relative to something we consider 'slow' like the 85GM (which i don't think is that bad, but just to use an example that some complained they thought was slow) ?
Actually i think its about the same speed now as the 85GM with the new version 4 firmware. It just got really fast
GMPhotography wrote
You know this about the worst time to not have any gear money. Photokinia is hitting in a few days announcements from Sony tomorrow. Im thinking a ticket to dessert island so i can't read any of this.one question i have for you guys and this TAP and the formerly MF lenses - just how good is the AF?
i don't need it to track someone running around, but is it 'great' from the perspective of an MF lens? or is it 'great' relative to something we consider 'slow' like the 85GM (which i don't think is that bad, but just to use an example that some complained they thought was slow) ?
Actually i think its about the same speed now as the 85GM with the new version 4 firmware. It just got really fast
Sep 08, 2016 at 11:30 AM
p.6 #9C-sonnar!
GMPhotography wrote:
Sony has a press conference on the 9th. I got a feeling watching them raise the price of the RXr1 II they way they did it was to halt sales for a new body and the 42mpx sensor given the earthquake was replaced with a new sensor for a new camera. Thats my thinking and i could be completely dead wrong. But i think a new body is being announced soon here
Sony presser:
9/9 @ 9AM (Berlin) = A9 !!
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Sony has a press conference on the 9th. I got a feeling watching them raise the price of the RXr1 II they way they did it was to halt sales for a new body and the 42mpx sensor given the earthquake was replaced with a new sensor for a new camera. Thats my thinking and i could be completely dead wrong. But i think a new body is being announced soon here
Sony presser:
9/9 @ 9AM (Berlin) = A9 !!
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Sep 08, 2016 at 11:30 AM
p.6 #10C-sonnar!
ecarlino wrote:
9/9 @ 9AM = A9 !!
Just as long as its not a 9/11 @9 am
GMPhotography wrote
Sony has a press conference on the 9th. I got a feeling watching them raise the price of the RXr1 II they way they did it was to halt sales for a new body and the 42mpx sensor given the earthquake was replaced with a new sensor for a new camera. Thats my thinking and i could be completely dead wrong. But i think a new body is being announced soon hereJust as long as its not a 9/11 @9 am
Sep 08, 2016 at 11:31 AM
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p.6 #11C-sonnar!
GMPhotography wrote:
that's why i sold my a7r2, FE 35/1.4 and Batis 25 over the past 2 wks.....it could be an interesting Fall !!
one question i have for you guys and this TAP and the formerly MF lenses - just how good is the AF?
i don't need it to track someone running around, but is it 'great' from the perspective of an MF lens? or is it 'great' relative to something we consider 'slow' like the 85GM (which i don't think is that bad, but just to use an example that some complained they thought was slow) ?Actually i think its about the same speed now as the 85GM with the new version 4 firmware. It just got really fast
i was really hoping you were going to say "slow like molasses" !!
ecarlino wrote
GMPhotography wrote
You know this about the worst time to not have any gear money. Photokinia is hitting in a few days announcements from Sony tomorrow. Im thinking a ticket to dessert island so i can't read any of this.one question i have for you guys and this TAP and the formerly MF lenses - just how good is the AF?
i don't need it to track someone running around, but is it 'great' from the perspective of an MF lens? or is it 'great' relative to something we consider 'slow' like the 85GM (which i don't think is that bad, but just to use an example that some complained they thought was slow) ?
i was really hoping you were going to say "slow like molasses" !!
Sep 08, 2016 at 11:32 AM
p.6 #12C-sonnar!
ecarlino wrote:
9/9 @ 9AM = A9 !!
You may actually be right?
The only thing I am hoping for is the 16-35/2.8 GM lens announcement.
GMPhotography wrote
Sony has a press conference on the 9th. I got a feeling watching them raise the price of the RXr1 II they way they did it was to halt sales for a new body and the 42mpx sensor given the earthquake was replaced with a new sensor for a new camera. Thats my thinking and i could be completely dead wrong. But i think a new body is being announced soon hereYou may actually be right?
The only thing I am hoping for is the 16-35/2.8 GM lens announcement.Sep 08, 2016 at 11:33 AM
p.6 #13C-sonnar!
Gary Clennan wrote:
9/9 @ 9AM = A9 !!You may actually be right? The only thing I am hoping for is the 16-35/2.8 GM lens announcement.
that's one of the lenses i'm waiting to see the specs on - although it seems like it will be hard for a zoom to outperform both the Batis 18 and Batis 25 - but if it comes close, that may be my first zoom in 4 years.
dreaming (because i doubt there's any chance in the next few years) of a 28GM that would fit my kit like a glove - but maybe the 28mm is my "TAP / ZM" trial lens....
ecarlino wrote
GMPhotography wrote
Sony has a press conference on the 9th. I got a feeling watching them raise the price of the RXr1 II they way they did it was to halt sales for a new body and the 42mpx sensor given the earthquake was replaced with a new sensor for a new camera. Thats my thinking and i could be completely dead wrong. But i think a new body is being announced soon here The only thing I am hoping for is the 16-35/2.8 GM lens announcement.that's one of the lenses i'm waiting to see the specs on - although it seems like it will be hard for a zoom to outperform both the Batis 18 and Batis 25 - but if it comes close, that may be my first zoom in 4 years.
dreaming (because i doubt there's any chance in the next few years) of a 28GM that would fit my kit like a glove - but maybe the 28mm is my "TAP / ZM" trial lens....
Sep 08, 2016 at 11:36 AM
p.6 #14C-sonnar!
Actually I just went out back . Grabbed the 50 1.4 the 85GM. I'm shocked it beats the GM 85 and damn it maybe as fast as the 50 1.4. I'm impressed
ecarlino wrote:
that's why i sold my a7r2, FE 35/1.4 and Batis 25 over the past 2 wks.....it could be an interesting Fall !!
one question i have for you guys and this TAP and the formerly MF lenses - just how good is the AF?
i don't need it to track someone running around, but is it 'great' from the perspective of an MF lens? or is it 'great' relative to something we consider 'slow' like the 85GM (which i don't think is that bad, but just to use an example that some complained they thought was slow) ?Actually i think its about the same speed now as the 85GM with the new version 4 firmware. It just got really fasti was really hoping you were going to say "slow like molasses" !!
ecarlino wrote:
GMPhotography wrote
ecarlino wrote
GMPhotography wrote
You know this about the worst time to not have any gear money. Photokinia is hitting in a few days announcements from Sony tomorrow. Im thinking a ticket to dessert island so i can't read any of this.one question i have for you guys and this TAP and the formerly MF lenses - just how good is the AF?
i don't need it to track someone running around, but is it 'great' from the perspective of an MF lens? or is it 'great' relative to something we consider 'slow' like the 85GM (which i don't think is that bad, but just to use an example that some complained they thought was slow) ?
Sep 08, 2016 at 11:41 AM
p.6 #15C-sonnar!
BTW how is this lens stopped down. Do the corners ever get good
Sep 08, 2016 at 12:52 PM
p.6 #16C-sonnar!
BrandonSi wrote:
That was my issue with the Jupiter 3+.. Why would I pay $650 for anything made by lomography.com, and especially when the actual Zeiss lens can be had for $150-$200 more?
Maybe if it was $200-$250 I could see it..
yeah, the original j-3 is worth it's price ($150), but this new version seems way over priced – the coatings still aren't great and it doesn't have the improved performance that the zm does due to zeiss's design tweaks.
GMPhotography wrote
From my casual reading of the Jupiter i picked up on the bokeh , flare are not as good as the Zeiss which he seems to love more. Not sure about it myself as even at 650 its not that far away from a used Zeiss which i like the output better.Maybe if it was $200-$250 I could see it..
yeah, the original j-3 is worth it's price ($150), but this new version seems way over priced – the coatings still aren't great and it doesn't have the improved performance that the zm does due to zeiss's design tweaks.
Sep 08, 2016 at 01:47 PM
p.6 #17C-sonnar!
Joining this thread to keep tabs on the TAP, owning quite a few Leica-M mount lenses...
Sep 08, 2016 at 03:34 PM
p.6 #18C-sonnar!
Any Loxia owners here? If so is the draw of the Sonnar that different? I have streamlined over the years. From a bag of zooms and heavy 1.4s to a 50 and 21.
Sep 08, 2016 at 03:49 PM
p.6 #19C-sonnar!
GMPhotography wrote:
Sony has a press conference on the 9th. I got a feeling watching them raise the price of the RXr1 II they way they did it was to halt sales for a new body and the 42mpx sensor given the earthquake was replaced with a new sensor for a new camera. Thats my thinking and i could be completely dead wrong. But i think a new body is being announced soon here
I was wondering if any of you chaps were saving your pennies for the sure to come Sony announcements. Not sure if camera goodies will be announced during tomorrow's press conference or in a month or so. Either way, I expect a few camera announcements from Sony and probably new lenses from Zeiss both Batis and Loxia. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a GM 16-35 F2.8 in there too. Stay tuned
Sony has a press conference on the 9th. I got a feeling watching them raise the price of the RXr1 II they way they did it was to halt sales for a new body and the 42mpx sensor given the earthquake was replaced with a new sensor for a new camera. Thats my thinking and i could be completely dead wrong. But i think a new body is being announced soon here
I was wondering if any of you chaps were saving your pennies for the sure to come Sony announcements. Not sure if camera goodies will be announced during tomorrow's press conference or in a month or so. Either way, I expect a few camera announcements from Sony and probably new lenses from Zeiss both Batis and Loxia. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a GM 16-35 F2.8 in there too. Stay tuned
Sep 08, 2016 at 04:20 PM
p.6 #20C-sonnar!
LBJ2 wrote:
I was wondering if any of you chaps were saving your pennies for the sure to come Sony announcements. Not sure if camera goodies will be announced during tomorrow's press conference or in a month or so. Either way, I expect a few camera announcements from Sony and probably new lenses from Zeiss both Batis and Loxia. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a GM 16-35 F2.8 in there too. Stay tuned
My bet is in a 16-35GM and Loxia 85.
GMPhotography wrote
Sony has a press conference on the 9th. I got a feeling watching them raise the price of the RXr1 II they way they did it was to halt sales for a new body and the 42mpx sensor given the earthquake was replaced with a new sensor for a new camera. Thats my thinking and i could be completely dead wrong. But i think a new body is being announced soon hereMy bet is in a 16-35GM and Loxia 85.
Sep 08, 2016 at 04:24 PM