Not bad (IMHO) and in line with what I thought it would be.
Although we don't know the price of the camera yet, and this number is not necessarily indicative of the actual price in North America and Europe. I don't think it will be too far off. Fuji will want to be at least fairly competitive with Pentax. The Pentax 645Z is $7,000 for the body, and I expect the Fuji won't be too far off from that. The Pentax 55 f/2.8 is about $1,000 and I doubt the Fuji 63 f/2.8 will be that cheap, but it is seems that about $1,500 might be a good guess for the price. So, $8,500 probably won't be too far off. I would put the kit at not less than $8,000 and not more than $9,500, but we'll see.
p.48 #2 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Lee Saxon wrote:
I mean, every previous medium format digital camera, absolutely. But one smaller than the D810 and probably about the price of a D5 or less? What's the criteria for exclusion there?
I don't generally need the resolution since I don't currently print and don't anticipate printing larger than the 20-30 to 30-40 range that people are printing current APS-C files at. I typically take six lenses with me and that covers all the very different needs I can encounter. I can't get the lenses I use for medium format and if I got all six then I imagine the cost to be over $20k which I'm not spending on another camera system next year. I can fit my whole into a messenger bag with and take it onto the plane with me, I can't do it with FF and I definately won't be able to do it with the GFX. The GFX will be slower and have poorer AF which would not be an asset for general photography. I would be hesitant to bring a bag with $20k of gear in it into many of the situations I go into and on and on and on... I don't think I should be forced to defend my decision to use a Fuji X system camera over a larger sensor one however. I think it will be a great studio camera and great for on location work for people doing work requiring them to print really large photos and I'm not doing that. FF lenses are much larger than Fuji APS-C lenses and even if the GFX lenses were around FF they would still be too large for many of my purposes. In my past and current experience smaller camera systems just get used more. And that includes people I know who would claim they use their medium format system as much as others used their 35mm system when they really didn't.
I really like the GFX system and would love to have it I just don't think it makes sense for me at this point in time. If I were doing studio work like my father was doing in his studio it would be a no brainer but I'm not.
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Lee Saxon wrote:
You're not, it was just a question. Your answer makes complete sense to me.
Thanks, some of us Fuji X shooters have been beaten up for shooting APS-C mirrorless over the years I do plan on renting a GFX and doing a photography centered trip at some point to check it out though. Shoot it and my X system side by side and get a feel for what it gives in terms of additional performance. As much as I love it I just can't justify the additional cost of owning one at this point, given my current uses/needs.
p.48 #5 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
rbf_ wrote:
Thanks, some of us Fuji X shooters have been beaten up for shooting APS-C mirrorless over the years I do plan on renting a GFX and doing a photography centered trip at some point to check it out though. Shoot it and my X system side by side and get a feel for what it gives in terms of additional performance. As much as I love it I just can't justify the additional cost of owning one at this point, given my current uses/needs.
Honestly, who cares what people say. I hear people say Fuji isn't for pros, and never will be. But, I make my living off photography, it's the only job I have. I shoot Fuji, Sony and Pentax....(APS-C, Full frame and Medium Format). The fuji X-T2, outside of resolution, keep up nicely with all the others. I have a pentax 645Z and I love that thing, but I definitely want to see how the fuji handles and shoots because it's smaller and...well......fuji colors
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Mark Rigsby wrote:
Honestly, who cares what people say. I hear people say Fuji isn't for pros, and never will be. But, I make my living off photography, it's the only job I have. I shoot Fuji, Sony and Pentax....(APS-C, Full frame and Medium Format). The fuji X-T2, outside of resolution, keep up nicely with all the others. I have a pentax 645Z and I love that thing, but I definitely want to see how the fuji handles and shoots because it's smaller and...well......fuji colors
Thanks, I agree! The Fuji colors are incredible aren't they I would definately get the GFX if it was my current profession and I was going to be using it for work. What a pair the Fuji X and GFX systems would be I still might get one down the road a bit but I'm just not doing much of the type of photography I would want a system like that for and I have other priorities as well. I want the 100-400 + 2xTC, XT2, some lights and a good filter kit. I also need to beef up my computer systems; more storage, new monitor (5k Apple maybe?), repurpose a couple of my older Mac Pro's (networked compute + storage) and I'll likely upgrade to the newer macbook pro when it finally comes out. So I think doing all that gives me more benefit than a second camera system at this point in time. As it is my drives are overflowing right now and I'm moving to all/mostly flash storage (SSD) so I've got my hands full. I'm really happy my Fuji X series too, the XP2 has surpassed all my expectations what a great camera I'll still be kicking the tires on the GFX though, maybe 2018/19 though... We'll see..
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gdanmitchell wrote:
Before I got a 51MP full frame DSLR the 50MP capability of some of the MF cameras (notably the Pentax 645z) interested me. While understanding objectively that MF can produce higher system resolution than the smaller FF systems with the same MP, given the quality of the FF systems I'm less enthusiastic than I might otherwise be.
Intrigued? Yes. Willing to buy into a whole new system? Not so sure.
Dan
I would think that it would need to provide a massive improvement over competing Hi-Res FF offerings to offset the advantages of the array of superb optics available for DSLRs
p.48 #8 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
D.Hussey wrote:
I would think that it would need to provide a massive improvement over competing Hi-Res FF offerings to offset the advantages of the array of superb optics available for DSLRs
It will probably be:
1 - the sheer file quality of the large sensor
2 - together with the Fuji colors that the majority seems to love (myself including)
3 - the probably stellar lenses
4- the nice handling
With the d810 or the Canon 50MP or the a7rII you get close enough in 1 - , not that close in 2 - no 3 is difficult to achieve with a smalller sensor and no 4 is probably the most subjective.
But 1-4 together will probably be a very nice packet. Too expensive for me and yet....
p.48 #9 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
alba63 wrote:
It will probably be:
1 - the sheer file quality of the large sensor
2 - together with the Fuji colors that the majority seems to love (myself including)
3 - the probably stellar lenses
4- the nice handling
With the d810 or the Canon 50MP or the a7rII you get close enough in 1 - , not that close in 2 - no 3 is difficult to achieve with a smalller sensor and no 4 is probably the most subjective.
But 1-4 together will probably be a very nice packet. Too expensive for me and yet....
Cost and size would be the biggest hurdle for me. I just could not see myself hauling around a 3/4 lens kit for a couple month trip to some hot humid foreign country. Let alone pay for that 3/4 lens outfit which in my opinion will be heading north of $15,000.
p.48 #10 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
I tend to agree. I'm quite intrigued by this camera... but then I see the quality that I can get from my 51MP full frame system with its excellent native lenses, and I wonder what I would gain versus what I would lose.
Dan
D.Hussey wrote:
I would think that it would need to provide a massive improvement over competing Hi-Res FF offerings to offset the advantages of the array of superb optics available for DSLRs
p.48 #11 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
THis camera will be only for working professionals who know that they will make more money with that kit than they pay for it. Or for amateurs who are able or at least willing to spend that much money for a camera system.
On the other hand, looking at what people spend for cars - several times in a lifetime - that is generally more than for an MF system. And cars is typically about comfort, status symbols and conventions. Zero creativity in it. I'd take the MF system any day over a shiny car.
So any excuse should be fine to justify such an expense.
However should I realy seriously consider buying one of those, I'd have a good look also at the Hasselblad mirrorless that was released recently. It is slightly smaller, I saw excellent work done with it... It is a bit more expensive even
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fishjump wrote:
Also, the camera is turned off.
Leaving the top LCD on when the power switch is off, is actually a feature. Passive LCD displays draw next to zero power and can always be left on. The on/off switch on modern cameras only disables the buttons and puts the system in sleep mode in most cases.
I do plan on renting a GFX and doing a photography centered trip at some point to check it out though. Shoot it and my X system side by side and get a feel for what it gives in terms of additional performance. As much as I love it I just can't justify the additional cost of owning one at this point, given my current uses/needs. 
I still might get one down the road a bit but I'm just not doing much of the type of photography I would want a system like that for and I have other priorities as well. I want the 100-400 + 2xTC, XT2, some lights and a good filter kit. I also need to beef up my computer systems; more storage, new monitor (5k Apple maybe?), repurpose a couple of my older Mac Pro's (networked compute + storage) and I'll likely upgrade to the newer macbook pro when it finally comes out. So I think doing all that gives me more benefit than a second camera system at this point in time. As it is my drives are overflowing right now and I'm moving to all/mostly flash storage (SSD) so I've got my hands full. I'm really happy my Fuji X series too, the XP2 has surpassed all my expectations what a great camera 
