p.49 #1 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
You could well be right. But the screen is also "on". Also, the X-T2 alongside is also powered off, and yet the back screen also is displaying "Hello" (BTW I can't find that feature on my Xt-2)?
p.49 #4 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Interesting indeed. I'm now considering saving pennies. I'd have to see how well it does with adapted lenses, but I could see this joining the Pentax after that size comparison.
charles.K wrote:
Here is a photo comparison of the Fuji XT2 and GFX!
p.49 #5 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
alba63 wrote:
THis camera will be only for working professionals who know that they will make more money with that kit than they pay for it. Or for amateurs who are able or at least willing to spend that much money for a camera system. (
I am quite sure Fuji is confident that the majority of the buyers will be well heeled amateurs. They (and others) are acutely aware of the volumes of top end pro DSLRs sold to enthusiasts and that is what makes the entire business model work.
Pentax has enjoyed some real success with the 645Z and its relative affordability that has given Fuji and Hasselblad the courage to launch their own volume-hungry products.
While I love Fuji and, specifically, their plans for a 23mm lens, I have to acknowledge that in the end the IQ (while stellar) will not make a meaningful enough difference in my business for the investment.
I say this wistfully as my wife (CFO) gave her blessing to buy a kit with the 23 and the zoom which would cover approximately 80% of my commercial photography business.
p.49 #6 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
alba63 wrote:
THis camera will be only for working professionals who know that they will make more money with that kit than they pay for it. Or for amateurs who are able or at least willing to spend that much money for a camera system. (
I am quite sure Fuji is confident that the majority of the buyers will be well heeled amateurs. They (and others) are acutely aware of the volumes of top end pro DSLRs sold to enthusiasts and that is what makes the entire business model work.
Pentax has enjoyed some real success with the 645Z and its relative affordability that has given Fuji and Hasselblad the courage to launch their own volume-hungry products.
While I love Fuji and, specifically, their plans for a 23mm lens, I have to acknowledge that in the end the IQ (while stellar) will not make a meaningful enough difference in my business for the investment.
I say this wistfully as my wife (CFO) gave her blessing to buy a kit with the 23 and the zoom which would cover approximately 80% of my commercial photography business.
p.49 #7 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Spyro P. wrote:
Well that top LCD seems kinda pointless, considering on any fuji camera you can see most of that info from the top anyway.
Working in low light, it can be challenging to read your dials. Given the extra real estate of the sensor lends itself to better noise for low light shooting, it seems kinda natural to have your basics readily readable in either ambient condition ... i.e. dials for strong ambient, LCD for low ambient.
One person's "pointless" could readily be another's "well thought". Just depends on how your shoot.
p.49 #9 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Lee Saxon wrote:
I mean, every previous medium format digital camera, absolutely. But one smaller than the D810 and probably about the price of a D5 or less? What's the criteria for exclusion there?
+1 @ ^
Given that the camera is really NOT a traditionally sized medium format camera, but rather a Grande FX (GFX) sensor in a Fuji body (read compact), there is a significant difference between an MF and the GFX. I think the whole point of the GFX is to do the same thing to (digital) MF that Sony's FF mirrorless offers FF. The rhetoric that MF is too big to travel with ... ummm, I think that is really a significant part of Fuji's philosophy here in that it WON'T be "too big" to keep at your side, no matter where you go.
Sure, there will always be the "smaller is better for me" crowd, but until we actually get our hands around that grip with glass on it ... well, that'll be the determinant if it is "too big" or not for some. Meanwhile, others will still want to play in the "smaller is better" realm. If the "smaller is better" truly trips your trigger ... I kinda don't even know why folks would spend anytime considering this ... other than to debate their agenda @ "smaller is better".
That's kinda like folks discussing if a new Corvette comes out with a Hybrid Engine, and the Prius folks saying that it still won't get as good of gas mileage for their usage.
p.49 #10 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Spyro P. wrote:
there is also an LCD in the back, and a viewfinder, and probably some sort of app that connects to your phone.
but hey, if people want it, they want it, its their money
I'm guessing the battery consumption of the top is far less than using the LCD on the back when working over the top. I know I prefer to see my info from the top, rather than having to "flip" the camera over to read the back, or to "squat down" behind the tripod, or to "flip" the LCD up just to get basic info when making adjustments.
That said, there will be those who find the loss of the EC dial a poor trade-off for the change in real estate usage.
p.49 #11 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Like other people mentioned though the dimension that really makes all the difference in the world in everyday life is the size of the lenses. The entire range of lenses though, not making them all big and then throwing in a 40/2.8 equivalent pancake so we can take some photos of the camera looking small.
p.49 #12 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
RustyBug wrote:
I'm guessing the battery consumption of the top is far less than using the LCD on the back when working over the top. I know I prefer to see my info from the top, rather than having to "flip" the camera over to read the back, or to "squat down" behind the tripod, or to "flip" the LCD up just to get basic info when making adjustments.
thats why I said kinda pointless as opposed to entirely pointless.
There's no such thing as an entirely pointless feature, even if they attach an espresso maker to the camera there will always be people who will call it an indispensable feature and claim they owe their whole success in photography to being able to make coffee while taking photos
p.49 #13 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
+1 @ glass rules.
But, I think that the format change from 3:2 to 4:3 (coupled with mirror box reduction) means that your glass doesn't have to be significantly larger (read vs. traditional MF sized glass) to accommodate the larger sensor @ more efficient usage of the image circle to realize the available gains afforded by the GFX sized sensor.
p.49 #14 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Spyro P. wrote:
even if they attach an espresso maker to the camera there will always be people who will call it an indispensable feature and claim they owe their whole success in photography to being able to make coffee while taking photos
p.49 #15 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
Spyro P. wrote:
... if they attach an espresso maker to the camera there will always be people who will call it an indispensable feature and claim they owe their whole success in photography to being able to make coffee while taking photos
Wait! That's an option?! I want it, and make mine a double.... ;-)
p.49 #16 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
So, I'm standing in a camera store in Sydney today and in walks the Fujifilm rep with a couple of Japanese gents in tow. Next thing you know I'm holding one of the GFX prototypes. They had the three lenses as well.
They stressed it was a very early prototype with beta software at best. The EVF was there but didn't work. No shots to keep or examine. I only had a few minutes with the camera. The Fujifilm crew were interested in out opinions and what we though about pricing etc. No AUD final price has been set but they do want to be competitive. Very competitive.
It still looks like a brick in real life but it's very comfortable to hold. And very light. So were the lenses. They look like XF lenses on steroids but they are feather weights. No problems at all carrying all three lenses all day. Camera booted in a second orr so. Focus in the back of a dim camera store was like an XPro1 maybe an XT1. Not like the new bodies but really good compared to the Pentax 645Z. Buttons were responsive. Battery is at least twice as big as the XP/XT cameras.
Gotta say I wasn't super interested before but I was really impressed.
p.49 #17 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
flash wrote:
So, I'm standing in a camera store in Sydney today and in walks the Fujifilm rep with a couple of Japanese gents in tow. Next thing you know I'm holding one of the GFX prototypes. They had the three lenses as well.
They stressed it was a very early prototype with beta software at best. The EVF was there but didn't work. No shots to keep or examine. I only had a few minutes with the camera. The Fujifilm crew were interested in out opinions and what we though about pricing etc. No AUD final price has been set but they do want to be competitive. Very competitive.
It still looks like a brick in real life but it's very comfortable to hold. And very light. So were the lenses. They look like XF lenses on steroids but they are feather weights. No problems at all carrying all three lenses all day. Camera booted in a second orr so. Focus in the back of a dim camera store was like an XPro1 maybe an XT1. Not like the new bodies but really good compared to the Pentax 645Z. Buttons were responsive. Battery is at least twice as big as the XP/XT cameras.
Gotta say I wasn't super interested before but I was really impressed.
p.49 #18 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
I ran the first tests on my Leica R 180mm f3.4 Apo Telyt and my Sony A7r camera mounted on my Cambo Actus Camera. This will prove of interest to those considering the new Fujifilm camera. Tests indicate that the lens will cover the new format.
You can read my results in the following for the new Hasselblad camera using the same sensor size:
p.49 #19 · Pre-order: Fujifilm GFX 50S Medium Format body ($6,499)
flash wrote:
The EVF was there but didn't work.
I'm assuming the LCD did? Could you tell whether it was a higher resolution panel? I'm nervous about that because Fuji went to a higher resolution panel in the X-Pro2 but not in the X-T2 for some reason. And the X1D main competitor uses the old low resolution panel as well.
After owning or renting several generations now worth of cameras using the long-overdue-for-retirement 720x480 panel, I've set a personal rule for myself not to buy another camera with one no matter what. I hope Fuji doesn't make me wait for the GFX II over this. Although by then I bet Sony will have a 33x44 sensor with PDAF given the unexpected volume demand for that size, so maybe waiting wouldn't be such a bad thing...
They had the three lenses as well.