p.11 #1 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
I've done it but never posted it against a Nikon d800e it was so close even on my big monitor it would be hard to show on web and I decided not to even bother. The one take away and I believe this holds true bigger is better here as it was with film. Another 30 day conversation, debate. Lol
p.11 #2 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
What would be interesting is the leaf Credo 50 against Sony 42 but than its a system change so really hard to compare that. This 50 back is really nice no question but is it better than our 42. I would not put money on that bet. Times have really changed those arguments as I believe the field had leveled quite a lot.
I like the style of this cam and knowing that 50 mpx sensor is as good or better than the 42. That's my interest. But I still need my Sony so I'm not even going to do the math . I'm happy today with what I have. This is just exciting for those MF folks stuck with backs and such that want something simple
p.11 #4 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
One interesting thing is that you don't build an entirely new lens mount around a semi-special sensor format (44 x 33 mm) unless you're sure that someone is going to keep making sensors in that format. So I think that it is safe to assume that the Crop Medium Format 44 x 33 mm is here to stay.
p.11 #5 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
GMPhotography wrote:
What would be interesting is the leaf Credo 50 against Sony 42 but than its a system change so really hard to compare that. This 50 back is really nice no question but is it better than our 42. I would not put money on that bet. Times have really changed those arguments as I believe the field had leveled quite a lot.
I like the style of this cam and knowing that 50 mpx sensor is as good or better than the 42. That's my interest. But I still need my Sony so I'm not even going to do the math . I'm happy today with what I have. This is just exciting for those MF folks stuck with backs and such that want something simple...Show more →
Hi Guy,
I am sure that is and will be a nice camera. But, the fact that it lacks a Focal Plane Shutter, and the lenses lack Aperture Rings, distance markings, DOF markings, are probably focus by wire for MF...
These features do not endear the system to me. On the other hand if somehow my Mamiya 7 lenses could be adapted which is highly unlikey due to the contact...
p.11 #6 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Agree it has some limitations. This comes down to a use/ prefernce kind of cam. This certainly won't fill everyones needs. We also need to see the intangibles that we just don't know yet. AF speed and its abilities. Hard to beat a 399 focus point Sony today so we have to see where this all falls out. Like I said it opens a can of beans that needed to be opened so now others can expand on it.
p.11 #7 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Stoffer wrote:
One interesting thing is that you don't build an entirely new lens mount around a semi-special sensor format (44 x 33 mm) unless you're sure that someone is going to keep making sensors in that format. So I think that it is safe to assume that the Crop Medium Format 44 x 33 mm is here to stay.
That was my first thought, too. The mount is clearly too small for a 645 sensor.
Also Sony are unlikely to be interested in being small volume MF sensor supplier. Their goal will be to get to the critical mass where the unit price is low enough to sell in reasonable volumes (which in turn enables them to reduce the unit price etc.) Sticking to the smaller 44x33 format is the only realistic way they will be able to pull this off.
p.11 #8 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Lets talk about some advantages here though as i think relating to different types of photography its very important.
First lets talk leaf shutter and outdoor flash guys love this and for good reason . You can use ANY high powered strobe system at full power as long as the flash output is faster than 1/2000of a second.
Now even though we can do this today with a sony we can only do HSS at a reduced power. It automatically kills power to adjust for the duration time. For the wedding shooter he can use his nice big Profotos outside with very little limitations in regards to power. This has been a Hassy advantage for a long time
Sony folks do have to get closer with there units.
Landscape folks well this is huge you can do 2 minutes with this 50mpx sensor and it does work very well. Today we can barely get past 30 second on our Sony without running into issues. So this is a big.
This camera will have full access to all Hasyy H lenses with leaf shutter. Thats a big range of current lenses without waiting for native lenses aka Sony A7r we had two out of the gate but we did have some A mount options as well out of the gate.
So there are some advantages here. There are more but I need to get working.
They look really great, especially the 45mm. However, for the moderate max aperture that is to be expected. Anyhow both lenses can be shot wide open without reservation.
p.11 #10 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
GMPhotography wrote:
Lets talk about some advantages here though as i think relating to different types of photography its very important.
First lets talk leaf shutter and outdoor flash guys love this and for good reason . You can use ANY high powered strobe system at full power as long as the flash output is faster than 1/2000of a second.
Now even though we can do this today with a sony we can only do HSS at a reduced power. It automatically kills power to adjust for the duration time. For the wedding shooter he can use his nice big Profotos outside with very little limitations in regards to power. This has been a Hassy advantage for a long time
Sony folks do have to get closer with there units.
Landscape folks well this is huge you can do 2 minutes with this 50mpx sensor and it does work very well. Today we can barely get past 30 second on our Sony without running into issues. So this is a big.
This camera will have full access to all Hasyy H lenses with leaf shutter. Thats a big range of current lenses without waiting for native lenses aka Sony A7r we had two out of the gate but we did have some A mount options as well out of the gate.
So there are some advantages here. There are more but I need to get working. ...Show more →
This is true but keep in mind the RX1R II has a leaf shutter as well and can be had for near the price of just one of these lenses Limited to 35mm of course though.
p.11 #12 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
It's now available for pre-order at B&H Photo and Adorama.
The new Hasselblad X1D-50c was officially announced today. It's the first mirrorless medium format camera ever produced and boosts Sony's 50MP sensor. The X1D only weights 725g and it's smaller than most 35mm SLR bodies. The high res touch screen controls most camera functions, and the electronic viewfinder (EVF) boosts a 2.4MP resolution.
Images will benefit from 14 stops of dynamic range and full 16-bit color depth. Thanks to the use of Leaf Shutter lenses, flash synchronization works with the its full shutter speed range up to 1/2000s. The camera comes equipped with Dual SD Card Slots; XPan & Square Modes, WI-FI, GPS modules and it's compatible with Hassy HC and HCD lenses through an adapter. Pre-order:B&H Photo | Adorama
p.11 #13 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
snapsy wrote:
This is true but keep in mind the RX1R II has a leaf shutter as well and can be had for near the price of just one of these lenses Limited to 35mm of course though.
p.11 #14 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Welp, I called it on about page 3...same mistake Sony made with the E mount. The sensor *barely* fits in there. Wide angle lenses are gonna be *real* interesting. Just look at the vignetting on the ones we already have, crazy for such moderate apertures!
Raw 1080p24 is a very interesting surprise, though.
p.11 #15 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
Does anyone have suspicion that Hasselblad didn't design this whole camera? The electronics seems too advanced for them. Touchscreen, wifi, usb type-C, etc. Anyway, to me, it looks like a fantastic camera. I really like the industrial design. Looks way better than the SL. Looking forward to sample images. This is the kind of medium format system I've been waiting for. This and maybe an RX1all enclosed type camera. Price is high, but for anyone who have thought about the Pentax and was concerned about the weight or any Leica, this price of this camera puts it in the running. I also think of it this way, if Sony updates their cameras every 1.5 years and you upgrade every cycle, and Hasselblad updates every 3 years, then you're not paying that much more . A good way to justify it.
p.11 #16 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
I have to say it looks better than what I thought.
It is almost like a small MF RX1 in spec, a camera I enjoy using for long time.
No focal plane shutter is a real issue for me to consider it, otherwise I can adapt R and S(even just shoot WO all time) or OTUS lens on it.
I know 35cron R, 50lux E55 won't cover this sensor.(given how vignette looks) but 80lux will as it cover S 45X30 without problem. OTUS 55 might have problem but 135 will most likely do.
Again, we can't buy camera out of spec sheet without real world using it, I look forward to reading realworld review. Nowdays, the IQ difference is only one of the factorS to consider when buying camera, there should not be significant difference.
p.11 #17 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
sflxn wrote:
Does anyone have suspicion that Hasselblad didn't design this whole camera? The electronics seems too advanced for them. Touchscreen, wifi, usb type-C, etc.
They're all off-the-shelf components which are widely available for integration into electronic products.
p.11 #20 · Official: Hasselblad X1D-50c Medium Format Mirrorless
flash wrote:
So.... without a shutter we have two lenses. Or I can get an adaptor and use H lenses. I assume the adaptor makes it about the same size as the Pentax. And the H lenses aren't tiny or light weight.
So it looks like I'm better off where I am until the lens range flashes out. Phew! I was wondering how I was going to justify 14K. Might be able to hold off a bit.
Gordon
Great point Gordon.
We only have 2 compact lenses right now (45 and 90mm). The adapter will be very big for H lenses and as you wrote, H lenses are not compact themselves. There are rumors of a 30mm lens by September (24mm full frame equiv.), which would be great news for landscape photographers. We'll see.
Perhaps an electronic shutter could be implemented in firmware ala A7RII's 'silent shutter' but I'm not holding my breath.
The Hasselblad XCD 45mm and 90mm lenses MTF graphs look great!
Limited to 35mm of course though. 
. A good way to justify it.
