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p.29 #1 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


So I noticed a Fuji thread where the OP was asking for feedback on the xt2/100-400 for BIF. Basically it isn't good at all according to actual users. So much for the great tracking capabilities of the XT2. For all I know the em1 II maybe a dud as well, but if you want to talk about hype and fanboyishness Fuji is where it's at.


Nov 22, 2016 at 02:55 AM
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savingspaces wrote:
So I noticed a Fuji thread where the OP was asking for feedback on the xt2/100-400 for BIF. Basically it isn't good at all according to actual users. So much for the great tracking capabilities of the XT2. For all I know the em1 II maybe a dud as well, but if you want to talk about hype and fanboyishness Fuji is where it's at.


Grain of salt please. I've shot BIF with Lumix GH4, a camera known for its absence of any true 'tracking'. I know Mat at MirrorLessons has done BIF with the XPro-2 (even using the OVF and a red-dot site) and the XT-2 is more advanced.
Please cite a source for these 'actual' users.

I don't own Fuji but if your going to trounce that system some proof positives please, someday I might be interested



Nov 22, 2016 at 07:07 AM
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p.29 #3 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Go to the Fuji forum and it should be right on top. Xt2 2 with 100-400


Nov 22, 2016 at 08:08 AM
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p.29 #4 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


OK, I read the thread---50/50 but not 100% consensus against BIF with the XT-2. I think I wait and hear/read many more reviews other than the 4-5 people reporting in that thread before casting the XT-2 into BIF hell.
Like I wrote above no current Fuji dog in the fight so moot for me now regardless.
Now lets sit back and wait on the M1iis BIF outcome....won't be CaniKon standard either but I curious to see how serious Olympus is for moving objects whether it's bird, planes, sports players etc.
Now for me if I know I'm going for BIF I take a 7Dii or 1DXii...when I'm going to be parked close that is If I have to walk a bit I'm hoping on the a99ii. Hey, if it is a long walk I'm hiring a porter or carrying mFT and shooting limb birds



Nov 22, 2016 at 08:43 AM
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p.29 #5 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


According to http://www.43rumors.com shipments are delayed until December 12 now. No explanation given.


Nov 22, 2016 at 09:21 AM
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p.29 #6 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Its interesting that this is the date I originally saw given for release in the UK


Nov 22, 2016 at 09:51 AM
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p.29 #7 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


As long as it ends up in my hands prior to Christmas I will be happy.


Nov 22, 2016 at 11:27 AM
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p.29 #8 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Here's an interesting footnote from the new manual:

"Choosing ProCapH when [C-AF] or [C-AF+TR] is selected changes the autofocus mode (P. 43, 51)
to [S-AF]."

Would you take that to mean it cannot track in ProCapH mode? And if using Pro Capture, you'd want to be in ProCapL for pre-release tracking? I'm only up to Page 48, so hopefully this will get clarified in the Custom Menu section. Anyone read that far yet?



Nov 22, 2016 at 02:31 PM
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p.29 #9 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Olympus has updated the firmware for the 300mm f4 and 40-150 f2.8 which also includes some specific improvements for the E-M1ii.

http://cs.olympus-imaging.jp/en/support/imsg/digicamera/download/software/firm/e1/#fmzdl

The Olympus 40-150mm PRO lens gets the following new features and fixes:

Stability of lens aperture when shooting videos has been improved.
- MF shooting operations have been improved.
- Enhanced stability of AF operation when shooting video
- Improved AF operation when using the M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 1.4x Teleconverter MC-14.
- Enhanced stability of sequential shooting when using the E-M1 Mark II.


The Olympus 300mm PRO lens gets the following new features and fixes:

- Improved AF operation.
- MF shooting operations have been improved.
- Enhanced stability of operation when shooting video.
- Enhanced stability of sequential shooting when using the E-M1 Mark II.
- Improved image stabilization accuracy when using the E-M1 Mark II.



Nov 22, 2016 at 02:50 PM
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MedicineMan404 wrote:
OK, I read the thread---50/50 but not 100% consensus against BIF with the XT-2. I think I wait and hear/read many more reviews other than the 4-5 people reporting in that thread before casting the XT-2 into BIF hell.
Like I wrote above no current Fuji dog in the fight so moot for me now regardless.
Now lets sit back and wait on the M1iis BIF outcome....won't be CaniKon standard either but I curious to see how serious Olympus is for moving objects whether it's bird, planes, sports players etc.
Now for me if I know I'm going for BIF I take a
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At the time I read the thread, only to me person was claims that the others didn't have the camera's AF set up properly. He claimed a 90% hit rate while the ones who used DSLRs said it is better to go to DSLRs. I asked him to provide some of his BIF examples.



Nov 22, 2016 at 04:27 PM
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savingspaces wrote:
At the time I read the thread, only to me person was claims that the others didn't have the camera's AF set up properly. He claimed a 90% hit rate while the ones who used DSLRs said it is better to go to DSLRs. I asked him to provide some of his BIF examples.


Sounds good. I don't think anyone would argue that good BIF takes a bit of experience and practice. I don't think average Joe will pick up a D5 or a 1DXii and instantly start nailing BIF until time under the belt.
I'm just an amateur hobbyist but here are my BIF credentials (go here only if bored)-
https://www.flickr.com/photos/medicineman4040/albums/72157662637724813



Nov 22, 2016 at 04:53 PM
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Jack Kelley wrote:
Here's an interesting footnote from the new manual:

"Choosing ProCapH when [C-AF] or [C-AF+TR] is selected changes the autofocus mode (P. 43, 51)
to [S-AF]."

Would you take that to mean it cannot track in ProCapH mode? And if using Pro Capture, you'd want to be in ProCapL for pre-release tracking? I'm only up to Page 48, so hopefully this will get clarified in the Custom Menu section. Anyone read that far yet?


Reason being Pro Capture High uses the electronic shutter at 60fps. Pro capture low is still plenty fast at 15 fps.



Nov 22, 2016 at 04:57 PM
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p.29 #13 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


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Reason being Pro Capture High uses the electronic shutter at 60fps. Pro capture low is still plenty fast at 15 fps.


Got it. Thanks GAS-man.




Nov 22, 2016 at 05:04 PM
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p.29 #14 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


Jack Kelley wrote:
Got it. Thanks GAS-man.



Just sad that I'll have to wait 10 more days. I'm starting to think more and more that this will curse my GAS for a while. At least camera body GAS, the lens GAS will start.



Nov 22, 2016 at 06:19 PM
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p.29 #15 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


TMaG82 wrote:
Just sad that I'll have to wait 10 more days. I'm starting to think more and more that this will curse my GAS for a while. At least camera body GAS, the lens GAS will start.


Sorry to deliver bad news for the holidays, but I've consulted several specialists and they all say GAS is incurable. But it's not the worst way to go.




Nov 22, 2016 at 06:26 PM
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p.29 #16 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


savingspaces wrote:
If Olympus was smart, they would hire BobbyTan as a visionary.


I have never heard of any of the Japanese camera manufacturers hiring professional photographers, for anything, Olympus included. Has anyone got proof of the opposite? Just curious.

Why would they when they can get fools to work for gear?

Anyone who is a commercially viable photographer would never be a visionary, imho, because you have to grant Olympus worldwide publishing rights, and, just my 2ç, no photographer worth his weight in salt would do this.




Nov 22, 2016 at 08:55 PM
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taran wrote:
I have never heard of any of the Japanese camera manufacturers hiring professional photographers, for anything, Olympus included. Has anyone got proof of the opposite? Just curious.

Why would they when they can get fools to work for gear?

"""""""Every one of them use pros to promote. Are you really being serious? These companies have billions of dollars, it is nothing to them to hire a pro, not to mention that the return is enormous"""""""

Anyone who is a commercially viable photographer would never be a visionary, imho, because you have to grant Olympus worldwide publishing rights, and, just my 2ç, no photographer
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Could you imagine how a company would look if their "spokespersons" were armchair experts? No pro would ever take the company seriously. Did you get a chance to see any of the medium format Fuji camera's promotional videos on YouTube? Did Fuji use pros or some bloggers to evaluate the camera?

Also, I have to mention that this idea of having the rights to your pictures as the only way to benefit "financially " from your work is no longer the ideal business model. Times are changing, and if you want to be successful, you need to be willing to make changes. I see top pro's interviews admitting that they are giving away a lot of their work. The idea is that the more people see their photos the more chance that they are noticed by a company who loves their work and they get hired. Sorry I'm on my iPhone but you get the idea.

And I still stand by my claim that you quoted - they should try to hire the best of the best (which ever brand) and I consider Bobby one of them. Btw, I do not think Bobby is a pro to begin with.




Nov 22, 2016 at 09:25 PM
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savingspaces wrote:
"""""""Every one of them use pros to promote. Are you really being serious? These companies have billions of dollars, it is nothing to them to hire a pro, not to mention that the return is enormous"""""""


Should be pretty easy to prove me the fool then.



Nov 22, 2016 at 09:45 PM
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Have you never seen the Olympus visionaries on get Olympus dot com? They have a bunch of pros right there. Do you need a link?


Nov 22, 2016 at 10:18 PM
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p.29 #20 · Olympus E-M1 Mk II


savingspaces wrote:
Have you never seen the Olympus visionaries on get Olympus dot com? They have a bunch of pros right there. Do you need a link?


Yes, and to my knowledge, none are paid. Some are on this forum, ask them. I believe that even some of them have mentioned that here, although I cannot find a link to it at the moment.



Nov 23, 2016 at 07:15 AM
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