Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
p.38 #1Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
My third CV15 sample arrived today.
This is the result at f/8 (100% corner crop):
I will return the lens again. My fourth sample will arrive tomorrow.
Boris
This is the result at f/8 (100% corner crop):
I will return the lens again. My fourth sample will arrive tomorrow.
Boris
May 11, 2016 at 11:32 AM
p.38 #2Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
OMG this is getting ridiculous
May 11, 2016 at 11:34 AM
p.38 #3Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
I got my 4th copy today too but haven't had a chance to test it. This is very unfortunate. Maybe we expect too much and the good copies are just exceptions.
May 11, 2016 at 11:35 AM
p.38 #4Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
kdrk888 wrote:
I got my 4th copy today too but haven't had a chance to test it. This is very unfortunate. Maybe we expect too much and the good copies are just exceptions.
Could be, but then I want one of the exceptions
I got my 4th copy today too but haven't had a chance to test it. This is very unfortunate. Maybe we expect too much and the good copies are just exceptions.
Could be, but then I want one of the exceptions
May 11, 2016 at 11:37 AM
p.38 #5Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
I had this lens pre-ordered, but canceled about a week before it came out. I figured I'd wait to see some reviews first. Well, the experience of Boris and others has led me to pass on this lens. I really wanted it to be a great little lens, but I don't want to play order - test - return - order - test - return - order - test - return trying to find the needle in the haystack. Darn.
May 11, 2016 at 11:37 AM
p.38 #6Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
GMPhotography wrote:
OMG this is getting ridiculous
Guy, when you get my lens, hold on for dear life!
OMG this is getting ridiculous
Guy, when you get my lens, hold on for dear life!
May 11, 2016 at 11:41 AM
p.38 #7Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Another One Bites the Dust!
Mine came in today. Smearing in all 4 corners.
Mine came in today. Smearing in all 4 corners.
May 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM
p.38 #8Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Going to the damn grave with me bud. I honestly can't believe what we are seeing. Fred I think we actually have had the bad product as its too perfect .
Fred Miranda wrote:
Guy, when you get my lens, hold on for dear life!
Fred Miranda wrote:
GMPhotography wrote
OMG this is getting ridiculousMay 11, 2016 at 12:09 PM
p.38 #9Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
naturephoto1 wrote:
It is possible that you had a particularly good performing CV15III and a relatively poor performing WATE.
Rich
What's interesting is KH's tests, WATE on M9 vs CV15 on M9, most of the frame is the same, but the extreme corners, the WATE takes it.
On the A7rii, WATE does about the same as the M9, just with more MP, however the CV15 definitely does better than WATE in the extreme corners.
I've only used the CV15 once (M mount), still have the original raw file, sharp to the corner, no smearing.
Viramati wrote
I no longer have my WATE as I sold it when I got my Loxia 21 but I did a lot of test against the CV15mkIII and remember that I got better corners form the CV than the WATE and the 21 just astoundingRich
What's interesting is KH's tests, WATE on M9 vs CV15 on M9, most of the frame is the same, but the extreme corners, the WATE takes it.
On the A7rii, WATE does about the same as the M9, just with more MP, however the CV15 definitely does better than WATE in the extreme corners.
I've only used the CV15 once (M mount), still have the original raw file, sharp to the corner, no smearing.
May 11, 2016 at 12:11 PM
p.38 #10Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
GMPhotography wrote:
Going to the damn grave with me bud. I honestly can't believe what we are seeing. Fred I think we actually have had the bad product as its too perfect .
Guy, when you get my lens, hold on for dear life!
From Fred's tests, I think Choppy was the best of the bunch. In his comparison of the two, CA was intact on the Choppy sample, but was not present (in camera correction I'm guessing) on his e-mount sample. Removing the CA from the Choppy pic, I think, would have made it even better. Easy enough to do with today's editing programs.
Going to the damn grave with me bud. I honestly can't believe what we are seeing. Fred I think we actually have had the bad product as its too perfect .
Fred Miranda wrote
GMPhotography wrote
OMG this is getting ridiculousFrom Fred's tests, I think Choppy was the best of the bunch. In his comparison of the two, CA was intact on the Choppy sample, but was not present (in camera correction I'm guessing) on his e-mount sample. Removing the CA from the Choppy pic, I think, would have made it even better. Easy enough to do with today's editing programs.
May 11, 2016 at 12:22 PM
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p.38 #11Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
pdmphoto wrote:
Guy, when you get my lens, hold on for dear life!From Fred's tests, I think Choppy was the best of the bunch. In his comparison of the two, CA was intact on the Choppy sample, but was not present (in camera correction I'm guessing) on his e-mount sample. Removing the CA from the Choppy pic, I think, would have made it even better. Easy enough to do with today's editing programs.
Here it is again. My E-mount vs choppy at f/8. It's really splitting hairs at infinity distance. (LR Default sharpening for both. No profile in-camera or Lightroom applied)
Remember this is 1:1 extreme edges (42MP). They are virtually identical. My copy of the WATE is slightly better than both at f/8 though.
GMPhotography wrote
Going to the damn grave with me bud. I honestly can't believe what we are seeing. Fred I think we actually have had the bad product as its too perfect .Fred Miranda wrote
GMPhotography wrote
OMG this is getting ridiculousHere it is again. My E-mount vs choppy at f/8. It's really splitting hairs at infinity distance. (LR Default sharpening for both. No profile in-camera or Lightroom applied)
Remember this is 1:1 extreme edges (42MP). They are virtually identical. My copy of the WATE is slightly better than both at f/8 though.
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May 11, 2016 at 12:28 PM
p.38 #12Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Well, the store is being generous and sending another next day. Still on the Hamster Wheel, Roulette table...
I guess I will try a few more unless Fred wants to trade.
I guess I will try a few more unless Fred wants to trade.
May 11, 2016 at 12:48 PM
p.38 #13Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
RFMP wrote:
Well, the store is being generous and sending another next day. Still on the Hamster Wheel, Roulette table...
I guess I will try a few more unless Fred wants to trade.
I think Fred sold his to Guy already. Intercept the big brown truck before it gets to Guy's house.
Well, the store is being generous and sending another next day. Still on the Hamster Wheel, Roulette table...
I guess I will try a few more unless Fred wants to trade.
I think Fred sold his to Guy already. Intercept the big brown truck before it gets to Guy's house.
May 11, 2016 at 01:14 PM
p.38 #14Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
I bought Freds. Its already secure. 
Putting guards at my house.
Putting guards at my house.
May 11, 2016 at 01:28 PM
p.38 #15Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Bobu wrote:
My third CV15 sample arrived today.
I will return the lens again. My fourth sample will arrive tomorrow.
Boris
Absolutely ridiculous.... Is this perhaps something that can be repaired by a good tech? Would cost you a bit of money but would save the hassle of returning 5+ copies. CV should be embarrassed...
My third CV15 sample arrived today.
I will return the lens again. My fourth sample will arrive tomorrow.
Boris
Absolutely ridiculous.... Is this perhaps something that can be repaired by a good tech? Would cost you a bit of money but would save the hassle of returning 5+ copies. CV should be embarrassed...
May 11, 2016 at 01:30 PM
p.38 #16Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
With all these bad copies, it makes me feel like I need to test mine again....that there is no way it could be good. At some point the distributors should get the message (which has already happened in the US as they also sell direct) and you would think they'd need to go back to CV with the issue. Eventually we need to hear what CV's stance on this.
I imagine Amazon would start looking into this too. Too many returns would normally trip a warning for them.
-Tim
I imagine Amazon would start looking into this too. Too many returns would normally trip a warning for them.
-Tim
May 11, 2016 at 01:41 PM
p.38 #17Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Gary Clennan wrote:
I will return the lens again. My fourth sample will arrive tomorrow.
BorisAbsolutely ridiculous.... Is this perhaps something that can be repaired by a good tech? Would cost you a bit of money but would save the hassle of returning 5+ copies. CV should be embarrassed...
I'm not sure if anybody in Germany will adjust current Voigtländer lenses.
Even the vendor of my first sample had recommended to just return the lens and not send it in for adjustment.
Two more tries and if they are not successful I give up.
Bobu wrote
My third CV15 sample arrived today.I will return the lens again. My fourth sample will arrive tomorrow.
Boris
I'm not sure if anybody in Germany will adjust current Voigtländer lenses.
Even the vendor of my first sample had recommended to just return the lens and not send it in for adjustment.
Two more tries and if they are not successful I give up.
May 11, 2016 at 01:46 PM
p.38 #18Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
It's really interesting. I've purchased quite a few CV lenses and never had a bad copy. The proof is certainly highlighted in this thread however. Perhaps it's just the recent crop since production of the CV 15/4.5 III series. I have a new CV35/1.7 which appears to be fine. It's a newer issue and I haven't heard of any complaints. Makes me wonder what the CV10 will bring . . .
May 11, 2016 at 01:48 PM
p.38 #19Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
You mean the CV 12, 14, and 17? (after cropping of course....)
rji2goleez wrote:
It's really interesting. I've purchased quite a few CV lenses and never had a bad copy. The proof is certainly highlighted in this thread however. Perhaps it's just the recent crop since production of the CV 15/4.5 III series. I have a new CV35/1.7 which appears to be fine. It's a newer issue and I haven't heard of any complaints. Makes me wonder what the CV10 will bring . . .
May 11, 2016 at 01:50 PM
p.38 #20Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
You found my secret to good copies . . .
May 11, 2016 at 01:52 PM