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Archive 2016Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
p.15 #1Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Okay I have my grandson today so i may try some on the little guy with Eye AF. So far the lens looks really nice. I have a really good feeling about it already. More to come
Apr 04, 2016 at 11:24 AM
p.15 #2Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Colors are about as accurate to scene as you can get too.
Apr 04, 2016 at 11:30 AM
p.15 #3Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
May have to quit reading this thread...... certainly don't need this lens. But it does have some wonderful potential.
Apr 04, 2016 at 11:47 AM
p.15 #4Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
stevesanacore wrote:
That's a comparison I'd love to see. I like the 24-70 f4 for it's size and price but if the performance of the 2.8 is that much better, it would be hard to be happy with the F4 for my work.
A close friend received his 24-70 GM a few days ago. He also owns the Sony/Zeiss f4 iteration and reports the GM is superior to the f4 in every way. Wide open, he asserts it's tack sharp and that the AF speed / accuracy is astounding. Also commented on the greatly improved manual focus experience (saying the focus-by-wire system has a much more tactile and accurate feel to it). Says it even compares very favorably to his Loxia 21. Couldn't get him off the phone with his excited babbling about how "amazing" the GM is!
Looking forward to seeing some great images coming soon (and a new GM pix thread!).
Cheers-
Wes
snapsy wrote
At 24mm the zoom is still getting sharper in the corners/edges @ f/8 before entering diffraction territory, so IMO it's sweet spot is f/8 for landscape use. The edges are much better than the 24-70 f/4 FE but I'm not sure if the performance is commensurate with the price.A close friend received his 24-70 GM a few days ago. He also owns the Sony/Zeiss f4 iteration and reports the GM is superior to the f4 in every way. Wide open, he asserts it's tack sharp and that the AF speed / accuracy is astounding. Also commented on the greatly improved manual focus experience (saying the focus-by-wire system has a much more tactile and accurate feel to it). Says it even compares very favorably to his Loxia 21. Couldn't get him off the phone with his excited babbling about how "amazing" the GM is!
Looking forward to seeing some great images coming soon (and a new GM pix thread!).
Cheers-
Wes
Apr 04, 2016 at 11:52 AM
p.15 #5Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
I'm out shooting for a hour and too late to run tests as cars are blocking me so I'm just out playing for a hour. The bokeh is amazing for a zoom and let me just say this get a plan in order. You just may want one and I don't kid about 2200 dollars. That's keeping my enthusiasm on the down low. Lol
Apr 04, 2016 at 12:27 PM
p.15 #6Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Andrew Gough wrote:
How is the focus throw on this lens? I know that it is a focus by wire system, but Sony is supposed to have improved it. Could it be used with a follow focus?
I'm not sure what they did but the GM seems to focus better than any AF lens that I have used. It may not be as good as my Loxia's but pretty darn close. Much improved.
Chuck
How is the focus throw on this lens? I know that it is a focus by wire system, but Sony is supposed to have improved it. Could it be used with a follow focus?
I'm not sure what they did but the GM seems to focus better than any AF lens that I have used. It may not be as good as my Loxia's but pretty darn close. Much improved.
Chuck
Apr 04, 2016 at 01:21 PM
p.15 #7Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Agree Chuck it is much better on this lens. It actually feels like a manual lens in a way..
Here 2 quickies now these things are moving. Did nothing in C1
Here 2 quickies now these things are moving. Did nothing in C1
Apr 04, 2016 at 01:32 PM
p.15 #8Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
GMPhotography wrote:
Agree Chuck it is much better on this lens. It actually feels like a manual lens in a way..
Here 2 quickies now these things are moving. Did nothing in C1
Thank you!!! Someone finally shoots an image on the wide-end and wide open too!!! I like that rendering, its the polar opposite to my little Zeiss. For a harsh blue channel conversion that's exactly where my starting point needs to be. ~Chris
Agree Chuck it is much better on this lens. It actually feels like a manual lens in a way..
Here 2 quickies now these things are moving. Did nothing in C1
Thank you!!! Someone finally shoots an image on the wide-end and wide open too!!! I like that rendering, its the polar opposite to my little Zeiss. For a harsh blue channel conversion that's exactly where my starting point needs to be. ~Chris
Apr 04, 2016 at 01:46 PM
p.15 #9Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Yes, MF is more fluid when compared to other focus-by-wire lenses and it is also easier to nail focus. Guy, you said you saw onion ring patterns. I could not see it from my limited bokeh tests. Can you post it?
I am in Mammoth Lakes until Thursday. Mainly shooting with the new GM and the Loxias.
I am in Mammoth Lakes until Thursday. Mainly shooting with the new GM and the Loxias.
Apr 04, 2016 at 02:01 PM
p.15 #10Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
That was just for you. I have more
chrisgibbs wrote:
GMPhotography wrote
Agree Chuck it is much better on this lens. It actually feels like a manual lens in a way..Here 2 quickies now these things are moving. Did nothing in C1
Apr 04, 2016 at 02:05 PM
p.15 #11Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Yes I'll get them up tonight . I could not test today cars in my way but I did get some casual stuff in and some onion rings as well but it's not killer bad
Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, MF is more fluid when compared to other focus-by-wire lenses and it is also easier to nail focus. Guy, you said you saw onion ring patterns. I could not see it from my limited bokeh tests. Can you post it?
I am in Mammoth Lakes until Thursday. Mainly shooting with the new GM and the Loxias.
Fred Miranda wrote:
Yes, MF is more fluid when compared to other focus-by-wire lenses and it is also easier to nail focus. Guy, you said you saw onion ring patterns. I could not see it from my limited bokeh tests. Can you post it?
I am in Mammoth Lakes until Thursday. Mainly shooting with the new GM and the Loxias.
Apr 04, 2016 at 02:06 PM
p.15 #12Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
it's smaller than the 24-70/2.8 that i used to use on the Nikon D800, but how does this feel on an a7r2, especially when fully extended?
Apr 04, 2016 at 02:36 PM
p.15 #13Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Feels fine too many overreaction from some folks. But I may not be the best person to ask. I come from a long line of heavy bulky gear over the years. It's really not different than any other mid zoom but it's built really nice and looks better than the others by a long shot . It does extend out but it does not feel overpowering to me . I walked around a hour with it today in my hand and I felt comfortable. Sure love it to be smaller, lighter but it's stinking good so I will deal with it. Lol
Apr 04, 2016 at 02:40 PM
p.15 #14Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
As someone just getting into the Sony system, does one buy this cheaper(!?!) 24-70 GM or the more expensive L21+?? combo?
Inquiring minds want to know! =P
-mox
Inquiring minds want to know! =P
-mox
Apr 04, 2016 at 05:34 PM
p.15 #15Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Im writing this over at my place to post as a full review so I will add the parts here and keep updating with new tests.
Just recieved the 24-70 mm GM lens this morning about 10 am and normally i do my Big Bronco wall test but today given the time too many cars so I went down the street and shot all these handheld. I went looking for Bokeh, Bokeh Balls, Onion rings and I got everything I was after. I did some interesting tests that Im not sure anyone has done before but hopefully you will see things very clearly especially bokeh on what this Zoom can do. Looking at these you may forget its a zoom because this laddie never seen a mid zone zoom be this nice at bokeh. On to images and i am going to be skipping around so pay attention.
Interesting test I shot every focal length and every aperture to see what effect each focal length looks like at a given aperture. Now I kept moving away from subject doing this and i did it handheld. Not worrying about sharpness so much that will come later but I did use AF right smack on the nose at each focal length. Watch the Bokeh that is what this test is.
Now staying with the Bokeh look i tried another test all images at 2.8 but all different focal lengths. Yea we went from the Horse to the Cow and by the time we are all done I will have the whole McDonalds Farm animals.
I do NOT see at all focal lengths wide open any bad focal lengths at this point. They all look very crisp in this daylight
Edited on Apr 04, 2016 at 08:10 PM · View previous versions
Just recieved the 24-70 mm GM lens this morning about 10 am and normally i do my Big Bronco wall test but today given the time too many cars so I went down the street and shot all these handheld. I went looking for Bokeh, Bokeh Balls, Onion rings and I got everything I was after. I did some interesting tests that Im not sure anyone has done before but hopefully you will see things very clearly especially bokeh on what this Zoom can do. Looking at these you may forget its a zoom because this laddie never seen a mid zone zoom be this nice at bokeh. On to images and i am going to be skipping around so pay attention.
Interesting test I shot every focal length and every aperture to see what effect each focal length looks like at a given aperture. Now I kept moving away from subject doing this and i did it handheld. Not worrying about sharpness so much that will come later but I did use AF right smack on the nose at each focal length. Watch the Bokeh that is what this test is.
Now staying with the Bokeh look i tried another test all images at 2.8 but all different focal lengths. Yea we went from the Horse to the Cow and by the time we are all done I will have the whole McDonalds Farm animals.
I do NOT see at all focal lengths wide open any bad focal lengths at this point. They all look very crisp in this daylight
Edited on Apr 04, 2016 at 08:10 PM · View previous versions
Apr 04, 2016 at 08:00 PM
p.15 #16Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Im FAR from done. More to follow
Apr 04, 2016 at 08:01 PM
p.15 #17Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Oh if you see a hard vignette at the 24mm focal length. Ignore it, its my hood doing that. Im trying to figure out what I want to do here. With the Vignette its actually 2 82mm filter rings causing it
To add Im very impressed with the bokeh on this lens.
To add Im very impressed with the bokeh on this lens.
Apr 04, 2016 at 08:03 PM
p.15 #18Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Moving on to Bokeh Balls and Onion Rings. Im pretty sure this is a 9 blade aperture ring and the new GM 85 1.4 is 11. So obviously the 85 will produce a nicer look but this does a nice job in my mind, its not perfect but the Bokeh balls are round but I did get some onion rings. Now there is a special element in this lens to reduce that and honestly I think it does for the most part. The onion rings came in on very bright reflections. Lets take a look at this and maybe folks can offer some opinions. I keep reminding myself this is a zoom and not known for great Bokeh Balls and absent onion rings
I am going to add a comment here . I shot every 35mm lens i have bought and tested right here this is the best I have seen. Tamron 35mm 1.8, Sigma 35mm 1.4, Sigma 24-35 F2, Sony 35 mm 1.4, VC 35mm 1.7 and the Loxia 35mm. Wow that is a lot of glass I bought. Anyway
So good and some bad but I kind of expected this given as you see how many stinking 35mm lens I have gone through
I am going to add a comment here . I shot every 35mm lens i have bought and tested right here this is the best I have seen. Tamron 35mm 1.8, Sigma 35mm 1.4, Sigma 24-35 F2, Sony 35 mm 1.4, VC 35mm 1.7 and the Loxia 35mm. Wow that is a lot of glass I bought. Anyway
So good and some bad but I kind of expected this given as you see how many stinking 35mm lens I have gone through
Apr 04, 2016 at 08:34 PM
p.15 #19Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Notice it is bad when it is really a hot reflection
Apr 04, 2016 at 08:42 PM
p.15 #20Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Guy, these are really great, as well as your comments.
Thanks so much!
Thanks so much!
Apr 04, 2016 at 08:48 PM